Who Am I?
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Taken from http://themindfulmoment.blogspot.com/2010/08/who-am-i.html
Who Am I?
Labels: awareness, body, challenges, emptiness, enlightenment, experiencing, I/self, impermanence, insight, nature, the moment
Ten years ago, almost exactly to this date, I was meditating about 4 hours a day, 2 hours in the morning and 2 hours in the evening. I was at the height of my Buddhist meditation practice and I felt like I was really getting somewhere. Then on the 1st Sept 2000 while doing my morning meditation my mind blew open like a bolt of lightening and suddenly there was no me, no mind, and just the sound of a bird calling to the morning sun. It was a profound experience that changed my life. It was like waking up from a dream and seeing life through new eyes and realising everything you'd ever known before and the way you'd be experiencing life was incorrect.
Over the years, as I meditated, I started to notice how the mind itself displays very similar characteristics to aspects of nature. And over time I started to use metaphors to describe aspects of the mind to people to make it easy to understand. For example, the mind itself displays very similar characteristics to the sky. It is vast and expansive and no matter how far you go you never actually perceive any boundaries. If you throw a ball through the sky it passes through unattached. Clouds arise out of nowhere and disappear again as if they never existed - effortlessly, silently, and without resistance - much like the nature of thoughts in the mind. The mind also reacts to the environment and displays symptoms of cause and effect - when we perceive something, thoughts or emotion arise with them in a dance of interaction. Ideas are born into the mind out of nowhere much like a new seedling is born and later it will die away like a fading flower. This ability for the mind to display characteristics of nature always fascinated me.
While meditating yesterday a deep insight came over me ... the mind doesn't display these characteristics because it is similar to nature, the mind displays these characteristics because it is nature, it is all these things, it is everything. It was so simple. The mind is not made from some "other" component, it is not made from something that you can strive to understand or experience separate from everything else, the mind quite literally is This, is everything that you are experiencing now. It behaves in the same way as the sky, as clouds, as the wind because it is bound by the same laws that bind everything else and it is made from the same stuff that everything else is made from. There is no difference.
How to Apply This
Now those sound like really wise words and if you pick up any spiritual book you'll read lots of stuff like that. But this doesn't really help you at all and me saying it doesn't really help you understand or make your life better. You can read a tonne of spiritual books that talk about this concept and you'll feel good reading it and it will inspire you to want to know more but its kind of useless if you doesn't lead you to experience this for yourself.So what is "mind", what is this "stuff" that is everything? Who are you? Or maybe you should ask "What are you?" There are many names for this and people call it many things - nature, spirit, God, Buddha, life, the universe. What is difficult is most people talk endlessly about it but this doesn't help, in fact in makes things worse for most people because then they get caught on the concept of what you've talked about as if its another thing to gain or get or understand.Yet all these words in bibles and books are all talking about one thing, and one thing only - the direct experiencing of awareness, of life. There is nothing to understand in it, there is nothing to get - you just have to be aware consciously of experiencing life in this very moment. Now you can't describe what that experiencing is like but if you directly experience it then you understand fully in that moment what makes up everything, you understand what the mind is. I'll say it again, it is the direct experiencing of life in this moment. That is all. Now don't think about that, take a second, look around the room or space where you are now and experience everything going on right now. That is what I mean by the direct experiencing of life. There is nothing complex about it. All meditation and spiritual books are attempting to do is to get you to directly experience this for yourself. Right now. Again, so look around the room. Feel yourself breathing, see what is being seen, hear what you are hearing now. This is all that it is about. This direct experiencing of life. So simple!Its like talking all day about an apple. A thousand words won't allow you to get how an apple tastes. You don't fully understand "apple" until you put it in your mouth and take a bite, until you directly experience it. Life is the same. Meditation is about taking a bite from life, "crunch" and then you taste "Ah, this is life". So look around again now, be aware, be conscious, feel yourself breathing, hear the sounds, seen what is being seen ... "Ah this is life".So "who am I?" This question is really asking you to dive head first into the moment and just experience life fully as it is. In that direct experiencing of the senses, the mind, the environment, what is being heard, the sensations in your body ask yourself "who am I"? You must keep returning over and over again to the present moment with your direct experience right now. That is all, over and over. "Who am I?" Stop again for a second, feel yourself breathing, look around, feel, hear. Ah yes, this is me. As you do this you begin to see bit by bit the nature of who you are, of what mind is, of what everything is.
In many traditions you'll see this idea being expressed. In Buddhism they ask "What is your true nature?" or "What is your true name?". You don't have to think about it. Just stop again for a second, feel yourself breathing, look around, notice the sensations in your body. Yes, this is your true nature. Christ said "I am the way, the truth, and the life". This is the same point. Breath again for a second, relax and be aware ... this is truth ... seeing, hearing right now ... this is the life ... breathing, feeling, practising being mindful ... this is the way. This direct experiencing in this moment is the way. Who is God? Return to the direct experiencing of life again, be aware, feel your breath ... This is God. This is death. This is the Tao. This is eternity. This is life. This is enlightenment.So Buddhist meditation helps you understand this. No correction, Buddhist meditation helps you experience this! In the early stages of meditation you begin to understand in a traditional sense who you are, who you are as a person, what you like and don't like and you become happier and you function better in life. This is about understanding your ego. As you keep returning to the mindful moment eventually this sense of "I" starts to feel empty, as if its not real. It becomes almost meaningless and things don't matter as much to you. While this is a challenging stage it is important because you start to see through the illusion that "we" are something tangible something real and more importantly you stop being pulled around by emotions, thoughts and the challenges of life. You start to really feel free and unbound. Then as you continue to be mindful there is deeper insight into this intangibility and the direct experiencing of emptiness, and with this the direct experiencing of the emptiness in all things. There is a saying "See the emptiness of one thing deeply, and you'll see the emptiness of all things". The boundary between all things is suddenly gone and all things are experienced as if they are one. Therefore, there are no more things, no more separation, just One, just This. And what is this One? It is just the direct experiencing of life! Pure consciousness, pure awareness. Who, or more importantly, what is the "I" in the moment of experiencing? Again, stop now, look around, be aware, breath, see, hear and take a quiet moment. This is your answer! Its so simple.At times over the last 10 or so years I've had periods where I haven't been as regular with my meditation practice as I'd like to be and I've wondered why. While I knew deep down during those lapses that I should, and deep down I knew all the reasons why I should, and deep down I wanted to, something resisted. I just couldn't put my finger on why there was this mild resistance to dive fully into regular practice like I had at other times. In the last week I've been waking in earnest at 5am every morning to meditate for 45 minutes before work. I've been contemplating this issue and its cause and what I've realised surprised me for the simplicity of it and because I'd failed to acknowledge the far-reaching enormity of the truth I'd seen through my meditations. That is, I do not exist! There is no "I" separate to the very moment being experienced now. In this moment right now "Who am I?" While the insight was clear and life changing, I'd been struggling to understand the place of "me" in relation to the truth and wisdom revealed through it and this new life view. I was struggling to understand "Who am I?" and how did "I" fit into this picture. And in a lot of ways "I" wanted to still do what I wanted to do and to be honest I still wanted to "be". While the experience clearly showed there was no me, I'd persisted with the idea that "there was a me" that existed still separate from this insight. The insight was clear but the wisdom had taken time to come full circle. That is, that "I" is a false notion. There is no "me" to understand in relation to this insight because the insight has long gone. In this moment, seeing hearing and typing right now, where am I? Its like a cloud trying to understand and grasp the difference between the air and the sky. While you call them different names there is no difference and you cannot separate them, in fact they are the same thing. The cloud is air and sky and it doesn't attempt to call itself these things. This week as I returned to meditation practice I've been returning to this moment, to this direct experiencing of life. While the insight from 10 years ago is just a distant thought now, as I sit here and type and be aware in this moment there is no "I". So, who am I?
Looking around, breathing, experiencing, being aware ... ah yes, this is Me!
But this is not the "me" I use to know, this is not the "me" we colloquially or conceptually know, this is not the small "me". This is the "no me", the big Me that is everything. The "I" as I knew it before is just a drop in an ocean, why call itself any different? With this view a profound peace pervades Me, why struggle or resist the meditation practice? How can I deny it at all? This is like denying truth, this is like denying the way It is. I must meditated because this is the way it is, this is truth, this is also is what I am, what I am made of, what My nature is. This is Me! -
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This is very well written and very insightful.
However it differs from your experience of "I AM". Normally self enquiry of "Who am I" will only lead a practitioner to have a direct experience of our luminous presence, that is, the "I AM" realization.
It will not lead one to these experiences and realizations that includes anatta, emptiness nature and non-dual luminous essence. IMO prior to self-enquiry, having strong dharma background helps.
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:So, who am I?
Looking around, breathing, experiencing, being aware ... ah yes, this is Me!
But this is not the "me" I use to know, this is not the "me" we colloquially or conceptually know, this is not the small "me". This is the "no me", the big Me that is everything. The "I" as I knew it before is just a drop in an ocean, why call itself any different? With this view a profound peace pervades Me, why struggle or resist the meditation practice? How can I deny it at all? This is like denying truth, this is like denying the way It is. I must meditated because this is the way it is, this is truth, this is also is what I am, what I am made of, what My nature is. This is Me!This returns him to "I AM". :)
It is a reverse phase of insight from yours.
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Originally posted by Thusness:
This is very well written and very insightful.
However it differs from your experience of "I AM". Normally self enquiry of "Who am I" will only lead a practitioner to have a direct experience of our luminous presence, that is, the "I AM" realization.
It will not lead one to these experiences and realizations that includes anatta, emptiness nature and non-dual luminous essence. IMO prior to self-enquiry, having strong dharma background helps.
This returns him to "I AM". :)
It is a reverse phase of insight from yours.
I see... interesting to know that the order of insight can be reversed.
What do you think will be his next challenge and phase of insight?
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
I see... interesting to know that the order of insight can be reversed.
What do you think will be his next challenge and phase of insight?
Hi AEN,
Practice is on-going. 10 yrs ago the author already has all these realizations and 10 years later he is still refining these insights. My personal view is that most practitioners will have to cycle through all these insights time and again until prajna wisdom pervades our entire being.
It is not really appropriate for me to comment but I will just share with you my view as it also relates to your existing insights.
Although what he realized in his last para description is crucial, the problem of his inner resistance will continue. He does not lack realization on his non-dual essence, he lacks realization of the quinessence of his Empty nature.
Experience will be seamlessly whole, vivid, certain, clear, pristine, non-dual and powerfully present but his mind will not be groundless, dispassionate and non-abiding. Being brillantly and Prestinely both in background and foreground is altogether different from being groundless and non-abiding. One relates to the realization of our non-dual luminous essence and the other is the direct result of realizing our empty nature. Practitioners will need to integrate both.
His inner resistance is not because he did not realize the 'Big Me' as a result penetrating no-self, but rather a complete letting of both ME and me(for the nature of Presence is Empty).
Amitayus48 made a very good comment. '�得' - �一切得. The author IMO does not lack the �明(non-dual luminosity), he lacks the 湛寂.
Try re-visiting the following 2 articles that I wrote to you, when your mind is too focused on the non-dual luminous essence, you may missed the finer points in the articles.
My 2 cents :)
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Thanks alot, Thusness :)
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
Who Am I?
... But this is not the "me" I use to know, this is not the "me" we colloquially or conceptually know, this is not the small "me". This is the "no me", the big Me that is everything. ...When the intelligent mind evolves, it forms an upper sublime layer of localized consciousness. However it is all still "self-actualization". From the small me that is nothing to the big me that is everything... still it is self-actualization. Me still continues to live on and believes will live on when the body dies. These visions build up under the assumptions of the beliefs. Different religious experiences contradict one another, as a result. There is a greater truth behind, than experiencing our own experiences.
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Originally posted by TrueReppuzan:
When the intelligent mind evolves, it forms an upper sublime layer of localized consciousness. However it is all still "self-actualization". From the small me that is nothing to the big me that is everything... still it is self-actualization. Me still continues to live on and believes will live on when the body dies. These visions build up under the assumptions of the beliefs. Different religious experiences contradict one another, as a result. There is a greater truth behind, than experiencing our own experiences.
I'd say there is no 'you'... no small you, no big you, etc.
There is living, experiencing, seeing, hearing, thinking... there is Life, there is Presence (referred by the author as 'big me') but there is actually no 'me'. Furthermore everything is equally Presence... Presence is not separated from the flow of phenomenality.
And this is not a belief... it is the nature of reality, you just need to investigate to discover that there is no 'you' at all. The truth will dawn on you clearer than daylight and there shall be no more doubts.
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A question that will never arise from an enlightened mind and is also a question that deludes an unenlightened mind.
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Hi Ahimsaka, I wouldn't say it will 'delude the unenlightened mind'. The question 'Who am I' will lead to the realization of I AMness, the pure certainty of being. It is a glimpse of pure formless awareness. But this is not yet the Anatta realization. That is why there is a process. Not everyone will go through the I AM stage, though. Personally, I, Thusness, Simpo have been through that stage... including the blog poster above.
For more info see Thusness/PasserBy's Seven Stages of Enlightenment
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brudder.......very nice to see that you're still around even after you enter NS................
WHO AM I ?........................i found this phrase from Star Wars very apt..............
'' you are merely a collection of thoughts that has deluded itself into believing in its own existence ''
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
Hi Ahimsaka, I wouldn't say it will 'delude the unenlightened mind'. The question 'Who am I' will lead to the realization of I AMness, the pure certainty of being. It is a glimpse of pure formless awareness. But this is not yet the Anatta realization. That is why there is a process. Not everyone will go through the I AM stage, though. Personally, I, Thusness, Simpo have been through that stage... including the blog poster above.
For more info see Thusness/PasserBy's Seven Stages of Enlightenment
U post this during ur free time in ur NS? -
Hi An Eternal Now. Thanks!
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Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
brudder.......very nice to see that you're still around even after you enter NS................
WHO AM I ?........................i found this phrase from Star Wars very apt..............
'' you are merely a collection of thoughts that has deluded itself into believing in its own existence ''
not bad.. perhaps it would be better said,there is merely a collection of thoights about self, yet all there is is thoughts arising without thinker, sound without hearer -
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
brudder.......very nice to see that you're still around even after you enter NS................
WHO AM I ?........................i found this phrase from Star Wars very apt..............
'' you are merely a collection of thoughts that has deluded itself into believing in its own existence ''
not bad.. perhaps it would be better said,there is merely a collection of thoights about self, yet all there is is thoughts arising without thinker, sound without hearer, etc -
Hi everyone,
I am the author of this article and thanks for posting it and thanks for reading it and giving your comments. It is great to see you all taking an interest in my spiritual development. It has been great to read them. Unfortunately due to the use of some non-English characters I can't understand some parts so it would be great if they could be clarified. That would help me understand and develop in my practice.
Thusness, I don't completely agree with your comment "It will not lead one to these experiences and realizations that includes anatta, emptiness nature and non-dual luminous essence." While I wrote the article in this way it does not mean that there is not insight into this. That said, it also doesn't also mean that there complete realisation into this either. So your later comment of "He does not lack realization on his non-dual essence, he lacks realization of the quinessence of his Empty nature." I don't feel is completely accurate either, I would just say this is an ongoing development. :-)
There was also the comment:
Amitayus48 made a very good comment. '�得' - �一切得. The author IMO does not lack the �明(non-dual luminosity), he lacks the 湛寂.
Is someone able to translate this into english for me?
Thusness, I'll try and get through and read some of your articles that you reference in these comments. It looks like good reading.
If I could add one thing in closing, the intention of the article and blog is not to talk about any level of attainment or to try to expound in every article how developed I am. I think trying to read it and interpret this way is problematic. The purpose of the blog is to discuss meditation practice and aspects that may be beneficial to others as much as it is for my own contemplations. This article was written to discuss a contemplation for me at that time as well as having the reader in mind and what they may get out of it for their own development. In this way I write it such that the topics are discussing aspects they can relate to in their practice and areas they can work towards. I don't intend to always talk about the highest tip of the mountain, but instead how to walk it and the things experienced along the way. I think in this light how it is read and interpreted will differ.
Thanks again for posting and commenting everybody.
Metta
Dean Crabb
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Originally posted by Dean Crabb:
Thusness, I don't completely agree with your comment "It will not lead one to these experiences and realizations that includes anatta, emptiness nature and non-dual luminous essence." While I wrote the article in this way it does not mean that there is not insight into this. That said, it also doesn't also mean that there complete realisation into this either. So your later comment of "He does not lack realization on his non-dual essence, he lacks realization of the quinessence of his Empty nature." I don't feel is completely accurate either, I would just say this is an ongoing development. :-)
Yes Dean,
I realized that after AEN posted another article of yours on Quietening the Inner Chatter.
There was also the comment:
Amitayus48 made a very good comment. '�得' - �一切得. The author IMO does not lack the �明(non-dual luminosity), he lacks the 湛寂.
Is someone able to translate this into english for me?
Thusness, I'll try and get through and read some of your articles that you reference in these comments. It looks like good reading.
� means letting go
得 means attainedThere was a parable that Manjushri (Wen-shu Pu-sa), the Bodhisattva of Wisdom, manifested as a helper in the kitchen of a monastery with the dharma name '�得'.
'�得' carries the same message as "this too will pass" which is what you have shared in the articles Quietening the Inner Chatter.Both Who am I and Quietening the Inner Chatter are two very insightful articles that complement each other well. However when the "Who am I" is read alone, it lends the danger of falling into Vedanta Adviata Self view.
In the conclusion paragraph of the “Who am I” article, you mentioned:
“I must meditated because this is the way it is, this is truth, this is also is what I am, what I am made of, what My nature is. This is Me!”Is the ‘inner resistance’ an over negation of ‘self’ (no-I) that we missed the truth of “This is Me” / “the big Me that is everything”
Or
We have not penetrated deep enough the profundity of the message “this too will pass”.
In my opinion, the “inner resistance” is like a koan to all sincere practitioners. It follows us throughout our entire spiritual journey. So we do not have to answer too fast for practice is on-going
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we will be re-visited.
Thank you very much for sharing. :)
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I have a feedback to make.
Some topics are more advanced, should not the TS mark such topics with a label for ADVANCED PRACTITIONER.
Such topics can easily cause confusion as It's too advanced for most people. Worry ppl might get confused.
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Feel its not gd to label the topics.
sometimes when read, although right understanding does not arise but the seed is planted.
some of the explanations and experiences of the 'so called' advanced practitioners can trigger some insights
just a half cent worth
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Originally posted by geis:
Feel its not gd to label the topics.
sometimes when read, although right understanding does not arise but the seed is planted.
some of the explanations and experiences of the 'so called' advanced practitioners can trigger some insights
just a half cent worth
Yes. No right or wrong depending on how u see.I think should still label but I respect all views.
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true true
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Like popular shop or buddhist bookshop gt sell advanced books.
New buddhist read might get confused. They should buy simple books.
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Originally posted by geis:
Feel its not gd to label the topics.
sometimes when read, although right understanding does not arise but the seed is planted.
some of the explanations and experiences of the 'so called' advanced practitioners can trigger some insights
just a half cent worth
Buddhist can plant seeds of wisdom by reciting sutra. Reciting sutra can plant imprints of emptiness like diamond sutra and heart sutra.Sutra can plant seeds of enlightenment even if u dun understand it yet.
In future we will be able to understand.
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To dean:
Welcome to the forum!
To Pure Emptiness:
I do not see this as 'advanced'... it is actually something fundamental in our everyday experience... it is our own nature shining in plain sight, but we overlooked it due to our constant attachments, concepts, self-grasping, etc.
We just need to do some 'looking'...
I understand certain concepts may seem very obscure especially to beginners. However, I choose not to label topics as 'advanced', simply because this will discourage new comers from dwelling into them. In other words, I do want newcomers to dwell, learn, and gain new insights from these topics.
For example if a topic is discussing on emptiness... it may appear somewhat alien to people new to the forum. Yet, it is also something fundamental to Buddhism... I would be happy if that beginner is curious to read (even though it may be difficult to comprehend at first), and ask questions is necessary.
That means... if the discussion seems not easy to comprehend, then the reader could at least ask something like 'What do you mean by Emptiness'... etc. And then the other more knowledgeable/experienced forummers can then provide an explanation and answer to that.
In this way, we engage everyone not just 'advanced people' or 'beginners' or separate them up.
Certain things, like Emptiness, Buddha-Nature, may seem obscure... yet it is essential to understand these things to gain liberation. Buddhism is not just about morality, doing good, getting good karma etc... if these were the only things to Buddhism, then actually there would be no need for Buddhism at all. All the other religions already cover these things... and in fact morality is not the monopoly of religions, religion cannot claim to be the authority of morality. Morality is something even non-religious people should know.
So what is special about Buddhism? It is the profound insight into human nature, the nature of suffering and grasping, the cause of it, the cessation of it, the way out of it... (aka the four noble truths)... It is the profound insight into the luminous essence and empty nature of experience... It is these insights that liberate us from bondage. All Buddhists should therefore start contemplating on these things so that they can achieve what the Buddha set out to achieve - lead sentient beings to the end of suffering.
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
To dean:
Welcome to the forum!
To Pure Emptiness:
I do not see this as 'advanced'... it is actually something fundamental in our everyday experience... it is our own nature shining in plain sight, but we overlooked it due to our constant attachments to attachments, concepts, self-grasping, etc.
We just need to do some 'looking'...
I understand certain concepts may seem very obscure especially to beginners. However, I choose not to label topics as 'advanced', simply because this will discourage new comers from dwelling into them. In other words, I do want newcomers to dwell, learn, and gain new insights from these topics.
For example if a topic is discussing on emptiness... it may appear somewhat alien to people new to the forum. Yet, it is also something fundamental to Buddhism... I would be happy if that beginner is curious to read (even though it may be difficult to comprehend at first), and ask questions is necessary.
That means... if the discussion seems not easy to comprehend, then the reader could at least ask something like 'What do you mean by Emptiness'... etc. And then the other more knowledgeable/experienced forummers can then provide an explanation and answer to that.
In this way, we engage everyone not just 'advanced people' or 'beginners' or separate them up.
Certain things, like Emptiness, Buddha-Nature, may seem obscure... yet it is essential to understand these things to gain liberation. Buddhism is not just about morality, doing good, getting good karma etc... if these were the only things to Buddhism, then actually there would be no need for Buddhism at all. All the other religions already cover these things... and in fact morality is not the monopoly of religions, religion cannot claim to be the authority of morality. Morality is something even non-religious people should know.
So what is special about Buddhism? It is the profound insight into human nature, the nature of suffering and grasping, the cause of it, the cessation of it, the way out of it... (aka the four noble truths)... It is the profound insight into the luminous essence and empty nature of experience... It is these insights that liberate us from bondage. All Buddhists should therefore start contemplating on these things so that they can achieve what the Buddha set out to achieve - lead sentient beings to the end of suffering.
I am only giving feedback.
