Who would you choose?
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I'm just typing this to start the ball rolling. The forum seems really slow these past few days.
If given a choice, which player would you choose as a team mate?
a) a proven scorer who consistently plays good, solid games (180 - 190, for discussion's sake) but is horrible as a person. Perhaps someone you cannot stand to even speak to.
b) a player who is liked by all the rest of the team (assuming a 4-person team) and always maintains the team's mental game by raising morale, but is not noted for his scoring game. Let's say he averages about 150.
Come on. Let's hear some opinions from all of you, should you have the chance to pick team mates.
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i always like a team player. no doubt i'll take guy b.
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2nd one
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eh... if i choose b... then no one will choose a.. which i am. so.. A lar.
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Originally posted by Ian:eh... if i choose b... then no one will choose a.. which i am. so.. A lar.
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(a+b)/2 ?? hehe, just joking. think most people will chose (b), and that includes me.
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Maybe this will depend on what you want from the league.
Placing & prizes, go for A.
Camaderie & leisure, take B.
If I am playing together with A, I'll just play my game & interact with the rest of the team mates. Well, in this world there are all sorts of persons & characters. Not all are to our likings
Maybe A just wants to play his/her game and don't like others to distract his/her game.
Well, in short, there maybe fellas that liked A
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Maybe this will depend on what you want from the league.
Ding raised a good point that I had forgotten to mention. This "team selection" is of course for purposes of competition and hopefully winning something.
I know that for a "mere" 30-40 pin difference in average, most people will take the nice guy. So let's make this more of a dilemma. Take the nice guy and hope the rest can cover his score; or take the one everybody dislikes but have a shot at the top places?
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hehe. pretty hard to visualise how guy A and B co-exists.
if my team is participating in a friendly league, guy A shouldnt be there in the first place. Afterall, wouldnt it be more enjoyable and entertaining to be leisurely playing with a group of friends? in this case, the priority of winning comes in second.
but if you are seeing yourself as a serious contester where its always a win-or-lose-your-captaincy scenario, guy B will never be in your dilemma.in such situation, you will always send in your best troop to gain maximum points.
harmzuay, mind if i increase the difficulty of the scenario?
tomorrow is the last league game and it is the decising game for top placing. your line-up is left with one slot for one of the following team-mates:
a. your best friend. screwed up the last game and desperate to redeem himself. very emotional and badly want to win the game for the team. when he's good, he's very good. but when he's screw up, he screw up big time.
b. consistent player. if he is in the selection and all of them perform as per normal, the chances of winning the league is extremely high.
who would you pick? hehe. -
Hmmmm you'll need a mixture of both. But you're going to compete to win something, I'll have to go with A. He may not talk much, but at the end of the day, it's the number on the scoreboard that counts. Higher numbers means higher chances of winning. On a side note, you can learn a lot more by playing with better bowlers too.
Otherwise it's a no brainer, it's gotta be B in all other instances.
I'm just glad our team is actually all Bs in terms of character, yet quite a few has a skill level of A. -
Woahh......
U say such good things about our team
Can't possibly let you down -
Prataman
I didn't mean that person A was not talkative. I meant he was a very irritating character. Imagine someone who kicks the ball return, swears loudly and generally transmits negative energy around. Basically, the kind whom many people rather NOT play with.
I hope nobody else misunderstood.
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Well, if A doesn't bother me(& that I can stand his nonsense), I don't mind him in the team.
I'll prefer B's character & A's score(higher scores means more strikes/less open frames hence encouraging for team bowling) but such a bowling machine is rare
Let's enjoy our bowling
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hey hey..lets get this clear...
Type A's eg: Ian W. Lenny Lim( this one is really bad) Valerie Teo(this one is really bad too..female version of lenny wif twice the results)
Type B's eg: Parker Bohn III (hey he looks fun ) SIM bowling club pple ( wif an exception see above) CBC league pple... (again there is an exception)
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Lenny was in the CBC league 2 seasons ago, as was Jeremy Fang and Roger Tuar.
Don't worry, it was clear to everyone that how Lenny's bowling attitude was. Let me just give a small example (If you're reading this, you did say it, Lenny).
He started out hot, stringing 4 in a row (this was his first league outing at CBC), then he left a ringing 10 on his fifth shot. He turned around with a really frustrated look, then muttered loudly "Aiyah, nothing to play for already".
My my, the looks on all the uncles/aunties' faces were, let's just say "disapproving".
Harmy, if that's the case, I'll take B then. Regardless. Nothing more damaging to team spirit than to see someone swear and kick ball returns and embarasses the whole team.
Ian, why do you think you're A? I personally don't think you fit into that category, I think you're a very "helpful" bowler to have around, and you certainly won't damage morale, either. -
With regards to baruku's example, i would still pick Mr. A.
Like you said, he's eager to please, to make amends. If he fails, hey, so what, pat him on the back, mention a "better next time buddy" and move on.
However, in the event that he does succeed in delivering the goods, there will be lots of ass-kicking, high-fiving, and much rejoicing.
In my opinion, the benefits far outweigh the costs, despite the probabilities of them occuring.
On the other hand, take Mr. B(astard)... all that negative energy generated by him may just kill the other 3 guys, does it matter that he can perform, at the expense of his teammates?
Okay, for argument's sake, say the team wins with Mr. A. Would you cash in with the prick and lose the opportunity to walk away happy with someone else? It's like, so mercenary. Bowling shouldn't always be about winning. -
money money money money....
guess the type i like! -
Bowling isn't really about winning... I guess if the team member really did his best & never give up, always bowling frame after frames enthusiastically, I will be very glad to bowl with him/her
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i wld choose A....
coz it's a competition and out to win...having someone like B wld help to lift the spirits of the team but if scores dun come in...kinda defeats the purpose...and of course MOST IMPORTANTLY i wld need someone like A to cover my scores... )
if A spreads negative energy, rest of the team mates shld try to psych themselves up instead or learn to ignore it...i've experienced/seen teams with a player like A who still do recently okay...if one player can get the whole team down, it doesn't speak much for the rest of the other 3 players...
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Originally posted by baruku:
If the leader of the team chose Mr B: then the person generally show traits of a good leader. He chosed the team with the highest chances of winning.
increase the difficulty of the scenario?
tomorrow is the last league game and it is the decising game for top placing. your line-up is left with one slot for one of the following team-mates:
a. your best friend. screwed up the last game and desperate to redeem himself. very emotional and badly want to win the game for the team. when he's good, he's very good. but when he's screw up, he screw up big time.
b. consistent player. if he is in the selection and all of them perform as per normal, the chances of winning the league is extremely high.
who would you pick? hehe.
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If the leader chose Mr A: then I would think he is a even better leader, someone with compassion. You're giving your friend a 2nd chance. I think that's a very noble decision. Of course there will be a lot of negative stuff if the friend fails to redeem himself. Sort of like politics. When everyone's rich, nobody says anything; when people's losing money, everyone have their own "correct" ideas about how bad the in-charges' perform.
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great analysis.Originally posted by airgrinder:If the leader of the team chose Mr B: then the person generally show traits of a good leader. He chosed the team with the highest chances of winning.
If the leader chose Mr A: then I would think he is a even better leader, someone with compassion. You're giving your friend a 2nd chance. I think that's a very noble decision. Of course there will be a lot of negative stuff if the friend fails to redeem himself. Sort of like politics. When everyone's rich, nobody says anything; when people's losing money, everyone have their own "correct" ideas about how bad the in-charges' perform.
I see choosing A is a rationale and B is a gamble.
so ultimately, who would u choose? -
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Why does your signature say "baruku"? Are you Baruku under another name? OR ... are you a closet baruku fan?
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Maybe baruku intro him here
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www, hard to say. I won't know till i am in the actual situation.
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i am baruku.Originally posted by harmzuay:www
Why does your signature say "baruku"? Are you Baruku under another name? OR ... are you a closet baruku fan?