newbie needs help urgently.
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hi. i've been ploaying bowling for quite a while. recently i've been wanting to get myself a new set of equipments. balls, shoes, bag and also the dunno wat its called... the wrist guard??? correct me if i'm wrong.
i need your help. i need to get a good reactive ball. a high reactive one,
any recommendations?? and where to get?
my buget for the ball around $250.
the shoes? i know totally nothing. pls recommend.
actually i hope that i can get everything under $500.
is it poissible???
and also the bag??
can put 2 balls in, comes with rollars, how much does it cost???
then the last one is the wristguard. those with screws, can adjust type, like got shiny netal type, how much is that?? good??
thanks for the help in advance.
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dan
i'm not trying to dampen your spirit, but it sounds like you're looking to leap before you can walk. Firstly, how long have you been playing? Secondly, you're making a HUGE leap by changing so many aspects of your game at once.
There is a practical side of these concerns - you're looking to shell out A LOT of money. If you aren't ready for the changes, you're wasting money.
Anyway, here's the help you wanted:
1) get a 'dull' ball. you'd want to avoid the balls that look very shiny and polished because they are very lane specific and cannot take oil. Look out for the single-coloured balls because they are more versatile.
2) If you're serious about the game, don't ever skimp on the shoes because they are often the item that lasts the longest. And bad shoes produce bad habits. Get the best you can afford. Dexter SST6s are good and versatile for about $240. Or a similar but older Dexter SST5 or SST4 will do too for less.
3) I'm afraid to inform you that 2-ball roller bags are quite expensive, depending on brand. I'm not sure what's the lowest priced one, but expect to pay from $90 - $150.
4) The wrist device you're speaking of is the Manhattan Mechatechtor. I'm not sure of it's price, but the originals are over $200. The copies are around $70 - $75. A word of advice from friends of mine - get the Columbia ProGrip wrist device. It's deep red in colour and has the same functions as the MM. Plus the metal is a LOT more rigid and thus performs better. I believe it's cheaper too - about $60?
I hope this helps, Ah Dan.
Do keep us posted of how you've decided!!
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It's always great to see interested bowlers
Ah Dan, what's the stuff you have now
Maybe it's a good idea to improve from there... it will show alot about the style you play too 
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wow wee, ahdan, u're really investing in a lot of money. I seriously don't think you can get what you posted for $500. A reactive ball at 250, two ball roller for 120, SST shoes at 200, and that's already way over budget.
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Ah Dan, why don't you start off with a second hand ball first? Many of us do that. It may not be as glam as buying a brand new hook monster, but consider this: it's gonna be a real pain in the ass when you start kicking yourself for spending $250 on incompatible equipment.
I know so many bowlers, including those in this forum, who wreck their game because they can't wait to hook big big. Truth is, many hook big big bowlers can do what they do because they had the patience to build up a proper foundation. Like what harmzuay said, walk first. Eventually, you'll sprint better.
However, i think it's 100% OK to go crazy on non-ball equipment, like shoes. I spent about $140 on my SST4s, about 1.5 years ago when i just started. Didn't want to splurge because i didn't know if i would like bowling that much. Now i'm like regretting, because those SST4s sure look ugly in white... 
A few of us were fortunate enough to meet nice people who gave away balls, or sold them off dirt cheap, so we could bowl. Yah... it's not easy to find this type of lobang. So if you wanted, you could invest in maybe a mid-range ball? Something in the $200 range perhaps? -
What ball weight do you use, Ahdan?
What feet size do you wear?
I can see what I can do!
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[quote]Originally posted by chuanish:
[b]Ah Dan, why don't you start off with a second hand ball first? Many of us do that. It may not be as glam as buying a brand new hook monster, but consider this: it's gonna be a real pain in the ass when you start kicking yourself for spending $250 on incompatible equipment.
That's me 1.5 years ago.
But I'm slowly getting to appreciate equipment now. Maybe should talk to the proshop owner about how you are bowling and asked for his recommendations. According to me, best bet is a mid-range ball. -
A little sidetrack here.
Harmy:
Hey, I think your Core Power has been out for over a week. You still planning to get 1 for your collection purposes? However, it does seem that the actual ball doesn't look as "chio" as the one on the Storm Website...... not as much gold swirl nor as bright. -
hey,i`m quite new to bowling too. i`ve played for about a yr and thinking of getting a second hand ball. but before that, can anybody tell me the wat is a reactive ball? i'm a straight bowler and can i use that?
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I will leave u with the experts here
Ding exits 
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all bowling balls have coverstock, which is the outer surface: particle, reactive, urethane and polyester.Originally posted by ev0luti0n:hey,i`m quite new to bowling too. i`ve played for about a yr and thinking of getting a second hand ball. but before that, can anybody tell me the wat is a reactive ball? i'm a straight bowler and can i use that?
reactive ball is mainly for hook-ball bowlers, because it helps to absorb oil when it goes down the lane.
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hi. thanks for all the corcern. i dun think i'm over doing all this. i've played enough games for myself to experience wat i really want. i've also try play hooks for a certain times. just that i'm still a newbie in it.
if i dun get good equipments suitable for myself,, how am i going to go well into it???
by playing balls, the highest i can go to is only near 180 only. but trying with hooks, i felt i can go more.
i'm willing to pay more for a gd ball rather than buy one which is not gd then regret.
as the the guard, that can wait. bag i can also get single ball ones, but the shoe definately have to get a good one.
any good recommendations for the ball??? higher hook potentials] ones?? [/code] -
evolution
all bowling balls have coverstock, which is the outer surface: particle, reactive, urethane and polyester.
This, with all due respect to baruku, is incorrect. I shall not go through this again because we've LOTS of posts in this forum about these technical details. Use the search engine within the forum, or just go to page 2 and look for a thread called to see what our very own Prataman
reactive ball is mainly for hook-ball bowlers, because it helps to absorb oil when it goes down the lane. said about reactive urethane coverstocks.
If you have anymore questions about the game, just search using the keywords first, and if you can't find it, feel free to post on a new thread.
Ahdan
It's good to know you are sure of what you want. I'm going to have to echo Ding To accurately match you up to a ball, we have to know simple things about your game. Ballspeed (in seconds), ball rotation & axis, revolution rate, etcetera. I know it's very specific to ask, but its the best to avoid wasting $$money$$. you could always look up what these terms mean on websites like www.ebonite.com or www.columbia300.com -
Ah Dan, the first ball i got was a Columbia Shadow, urethane coverstock. In terms of technology, urethane was invented before reactive and particle, so it's considered pretty low-tech by today's standards.
However, I'm still using it now, even though i have particle balls as well. Sometimes, the lanes don't permit the use of particle or reactive balls (e.g. too dry), classic case of 'qiu2 bi3 ren2 xiong1'
*translation: ball more powerful than the bowler*
So my point is, a good, all-rounded bowler should have different balls for different lane conditions. Today's bowling demands it. One ball does not cover everything. There's really no such thing as a bad ball, just a bad bowler Don't worry about getting a less powerful one, it can always be downgraded to a spare ball when you get better. -
it all depends on the lane and style u are playing if u wanna get a ball. nowadays u dun need to work the ball as much as the old days bcoz of the new coverstocks. it provides all the skid or snap or hook u will ever need. of coz it all depends on the drilling as well. however f u rev the ball alot, u might tink of getting lower end or older balls as it will help control ur game and make u more consistant. urethane balls generally help u in patchy/block lane conditions where the new gen balls cant give u the reaction u need. tink about your style b4 u purchase a ball. and wat u wan the ball to do and in wat lane conditions.
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Thanks and glad to be corrected.Originally posted by harmzuay:evolution
This, with all due respect to baruku, is incorrect. I shall not go through this again because we've LOTS of posts in this forum about these technical details. Use the search engine within the forum, or just go to page 2 and look for a thread called to see what our very own Prataman said about reactive urethane coverstocks.
Thought I share a url that explains a little more on the coverstock: http://www.bowlingfans.com/faq/equipment.shtml#e8 -
Thanks 4 all the info.
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Wow! This is getting too deep for me anybody want to enlighten me????? i am getting out of touch with the technology this days
I want to get a new ball. Harmzuay, Prataman.....or anybody: any good recommendation for me? -
Actually i had a few balls in mond already. they are also recommended by so friends of mine from SBA.
1) AMF's Fusion Hook Monster
2) Brunswick's Fuze Aggressive Reactive
3) Columbia's Game. -
Quantum
This is embarrassing
... but who are you? I'm not familiar with all the handles of the team who joined this forum earlier than i did. My apologies. 
AhDan
Hmm... The AMF and the Game, i understand. But the Fuze is the odd one out in your shortlist. The first two are particle and true "hook monsters" that are best used in heavy oil. Polished, they can still be used on medium-oily lanes. But have to be put away on drier conditions.
The Fuze, on the other hand, is a modern day attempt at the classic reactive coverstocks. Which means that it will not play well at all in oil. Lanes with patchy patterns will also not be playable with this ball. Since you're looking for a one-ball arsenal right now, avoid this very sensitive ball. -
Harmy you bad bad boy!!
Mr Quantum played in airgrinder's tourney!!!
Just think "very high backswing" and you'll get your answer. -
prataman
I don't know their handles. I only know Ding is Ding because it's his name. Get it? They don't tell me, and I don't ask. Simple. -
HARMZUAY! I never knew u dunno my nick!
I am Kevin Lah![/b] -
Kevin...Lah?
I always thought that you were Kevin Phua! Been talking to a total stranger siah! Were you from SIM too?
Hey, we have this fun bowl planned this monday, want to join us?
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thanks. ive been thinking of that too. maybe i should keep Fuze aside. most likely i'll be getting Game. cos till now i've not seen the monster as yet. you know where can i find that?? and around how much will this two ball cost me???Originally posted by harmzuay:Quantum
This is embarrassing ... but who are you? I'm not familiar with all the handles of the team who joined this forum earlier than i did. My apologies.
AhDan
Hmm... The AMF and the Game, i understand. But the Fuze is the odd one out in your shortlist. The first two are particle and true "hook monsters" that are best used in heavy oil. Polished, they can still be used on medium-oily lanes. But have to be put away on drier conditions.
The Fuze, on the other hand, is a modern day attempt at the classic reactive coverstocks. Which means that it will not play well at all in oil. Lanes with patchy patterns will also not be playable with this ball. Since you're looking for a one-ball arsenal right now, avoid this very sensitive ball.