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Hey~ I'm in school too!Full time also! But if you think that way Sean, I respect your decision not to post here anymore.
Case closed!
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Come on folks, get a grip. We should all respect each other as forum contributors eh mateys? Anyway chill dudes. We are all lovers of bowling and that's why we are here posting in the first place.
Do bear in mind that at the end of the day, this is a word based forum and sometimes we may not express ourselves the way we really mean to. -
hi guys...i apologise to the moderator who earlier closed this topic, as i feel that it's really a irony to close a topic for 'Open Discussions'
Guys, if you feel that there are things to clarify, pls do so, as this discussion seems to be left hanging in mid air... and i do hope that no one will feel bad abt this incident that he/she will never make a post here again, cos we are here to encourage and share the passion of bowling, rite?
keep the post coming in guys, but pls be considerate when making posts and replies, yah?
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As daryl said - Power is nothing without control...Originally posted by ToMnKaT:To : Those still in schools
The modern games in the US advocates Power & Rev. it has already gaining ground. Watch out for Robert Smith.....check out the Storm website about this chap.........Awesome!!!!
In Asia Pacific, there are names Like Wu Siu Hong, Yarnapon, Jason Bel Monte, etc..........
Try learn something from these guys, instead of admiring some school who are still in the process of improving their own games, U should not be surprised to see those school boys changing their style & technique over the next few years....
Go to Safra Telok Blangah in the next to weeks....AMF World Cup will be held there, its school holidays, so its a rare oppotunity for bowling fans in SG to see over top bowlers over 70 countries competing here.
The journey for bolwing is never ending.......keep on improving.
Good Luck & High Scores...........Cheers
having power ramming into pin 10, or maybe having power ramming the ball into the gutter, no pt.
if i were to chooes i rather have low power low rev and 100% accuracy on the pocket. Good enuff to strike.
i ever threw a ball .. tat slow .. it's like juz putting down and pushing it .. around 10 rev or so .. went slowly into the pocket .. and exploded into a strike. Good enough for me.
Yes u can tell me U can be constant Wif POWER .. wif REV .. But how long can u last ?
Imagine playing in a competition, u are on ur 5th game .. u are sweating .. tired .. and grumbling already.. , but the guy beside .. it seems as if he is about to fall asleep, naturally he can perform more constant compared to you.
Equipment matters, and for me, i dun know my equipment after i used it for such a long time. frankly speaking, i am that kind of person who can only own 1 strike ball and 1 spare ball or maybe 2 strike balls. As long as i have 2 strike ball, my faith cuts into half, half for each ball. Den i end up confusing myself, den kill myself in competitions. So in this case for me, Equipment backfires on me instead.
Bowling is a sport which requires repeating shots after shots, which is one of the rare sports that requires repeatation, if not the only 1, and the main factor to being constant to repeat ur shots = SIMPLE Shots ...
WAtching bowlers and learning is a gd pratice however, wad works for them might not work for you. for example a spinner watching Robert smith .. ( bad example i know but i juz couldn't bother to tink of a better 1 ) or maybe me watching robert smith .. not my style. = Wasted time and effort ..
Thus we should always pick those wif similiar bowling and try out what they are doing, constantly experimenting to improve.
TO me, bowling is a game wif lots of mystery around it. Who knows 1 day u might come out new throwing style .. not straight not hook not spinner, the game never stops evolving. Thus i keep trying funny strange or different release, hoping that 1 day i can get the ultimate release. . ( sounds corny )
To me getting 200 is nothing to be happy about, instead to me .. able to close every Frame except splits .. is something to be happy about. Hitting a rough patch, maybe the lanes dun suit ur aresenal u brought .. or maybe u dun feel well or maybe ur shoe ain't sliding .. wadever.. u can't strike, but u have a solid sparing system, which i still lack of .. u can always fall on it .. random closed game will give u about 170 .. which isn't that bad. getting a double in the middle gives u a 200. So mainly, 200avg is all about sparing and closing up frames, dats of coz u dun do stupid stuff 3 times in a row and get 3 splits in a row.
but most importantly i still find is that Confidence .. and trust in yourself and the ball, which i always lack in. Thus whenever .. sparable split .. pin 1 3 4 and 10 .. i end up .. " siao liaoz la. . WTf how to spare " .. i go onto the lane panic.. juz rush my shot .. go down .. die ..
i lost a spare .. = at least 5pinfall.
or maybe i dun trust the ball .. i don't know how will it react on the lanes.. den i adjust .. probarly i will juz hit 4 pins or so ..
sooner or later .. i start to get frustarted .. my game score .. 100 .. 90 .. or 110 .. left right .. cannot tink properly.. take balll throw throw throw .. end up .. go back reflect.. den feel like slapping myself
for me i tink that why professional are able to play power and rev together.. is becoz they trust themselves and the ball .. They believe in their skill .. they can throw down 1st board and dun feel worried that the ball won't come back into the pocket. For us, we shld learn how to control the ball .. make it break at where we want it to = Experience i guess. .
juz my 1 rupiah view. . Flames welcomed .. so that we could learn -
hahaha although i agreed not to post here anymore, jus wan to comment on the essay above this made by idiotboy89..
i canot agree more.. -
wow veri long essay.
i read til my eyes
i think you are really bowling crazy which is good
i just bowl for fun
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In a matured Forum, everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, no one is 100% Right or Wrong, its up to the eyes of the beholder.
Anyway i find it encouraging to have a discussion with people with the similar passion on bowling so long as its a open discussion, its fine.... don't judge, who are we to judge anyway?
So guys, just Share yours thoughts.......be open minded.....Cheers
I refer to those guys for some reasons, WTBA are using these guys as an role models for the modern games in their countries, who else do we look up to when we look for reffernce, definately not me.
If you have done research in bowling, you may have notice that there were a major change almost every decade, be it bowling tecnhiques or equipments even lanes........
Look at the trend and styles of bowling over the last 30 years, new bowling styles and techniques emerges.........
Am not here to advocate the more senior and experienced bowlers to follow suit, we maybe too old for that already, if you are happy with what you are doing.... so be it and enoy your bowling
For the younger ones, let them learned and see for themselves about the modern games, who knows...... they may be another Remy or Valerie for SGP?
David,
Thanks for your compliments, we made it with abit of luck lah..
And its also about team spirit and getting the objective right from the beginning, some planning and determination and many sacrifices, I can see it from Team FOS too. I belive your team will make it t the top 3 soon....perhaps the next season?
P.S.
Perhaps we start another topic on league..... -
Hahah! Yah! Shall we start a topic for our CSC league? Sounds good!
Team F.O.S has been building up these two seasons. The reason? Our passion for bowling! Cheers!
Hi Tom, btw, I'm Hayden! -
haiz .. no chance to play league .. lolx if play league also die badly sia no sparing system now
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hahaha.. in this mature forum yes im entitled to my personal views.. that is why i commented on ur post.. like u said.. its my right.. im jus being direct
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Look who's leading the AMF World Cup after 1st Block.
http://www.abf-online.org/results/2004/40thamf-1.asp?Division=MO&Block=1
Jason Belonte, created his own style of Power Bowling.......
Averaging 250/game.......
I think he's the only guy who bowls with 2 hand swinging motion today.
Check it "Ouchhh!!!!"
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To Idiotboi89,
Am not here to debate over your games........
Yes, bowling is an evloving games, that's why its interesting, what I am saying is just simply that Power Game is on the rise.....
There are people who tried and has not make it yet....lots of them, Daryl you may wanna give it a shot again, if time is on your side......Whos knows... U may the next big thing for SG.........(Honestly & Sincerely)
There are also a handful who is making it and consistantly staying up there, those who are not there does not mean they will not make it tomorrow.....
And when we pick someone as referrence, we point them to the top.....as they are the best......hoping that our younger ones can learn from the best.
Shall simply put it this way.......Michael Jordan......in basketball was and still The Name we pointing to?
Sports needs some IDOL Figures, so does Bowling.....
Oh yes....there is something you guys missed, perhaps unintentinally...."Agression in Competitions"
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use a bowling log with the following measurements, diameter 13inch, length 55inch. Guarante strike everytime, but there's a problem, the bloody pin 10 will NOT stand! haha
There's once when I met a top bowler from one of the universities. He told me one of the reasons why we have to invest in equipment and training to be a better bowler to to quickly increase our scores, to beat the ah peks!! The ah peks had been bowling for many many years using whatever style they are using. If we start bowling only now, how the hell are we going to win over them? The only way is through using the best methods of bowling.
"He learn to run 42 km under a shorter time every week by running 42 km every week during practise for 10 years. I learn to run 42 km in a shorter time by running, interval training, using good nike trainers, eating correct food, wearing correct clothes, doing mental conditioning, etc. Damn if I'm not able to beat him in 3 years!"
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thats a good pt..
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Tom TOM TOM TOM......... to those who knows my history will be more than happy to tell u wad pple nick me..... having crossed many mountains i've come to realised power IS nothing without control. A little desription on my throw....recently i had to slow down my speed jus to let the ball work (skid break roll) and i m still clocking 1.8 seconds. Power??? I never said i dun have it....i learnt the old skool way and i was able to modify my throw.eliminating those factors tt dun suit me. All i was trying to point out to u is....power game isnt on the rise....as a matter of fact....over here....no one dare to teach it cos not many know wad its all abt. Just for the record, my coach wasnt local infact, in states, the crux of the game is to introduce more length, trying to delay ur breakpt as far back as possible for max impact (somewad like a swinging punch of Ali) simply coz coversock and core design tech is now more agressive then ever.Like u n me. many here are all above average players (hanz hayden david jae - fos members) how to hit wad pins u dun need me to tell u wad to do. But wad drives me now to break barriers is my mental game.Like i said YOUR GREATEST ENEMY IS THYSELF. Bottomline, u can rev like a mad dog u can have all the power u can exode but,if u cant focus and direct tt energy,u r jus wasting ur time.
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one more thing i really need to pt out....dun be fooled by wad u watch on tv....american lanes uses triple oiling of any pattern- a luxury u dun get here, i tried double oilling and found myself near to swimming.
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My dear Daryl....
Perhaps, U are wat U are, as what you have already put it,
Can't control the power.......or doesn't posses the knowledge......yet.
That does not mean others can't...............
U'll make your pts when U are up there, I'll be the 1st the point to you to our younger friends when that day comes..........
BTW, Jason Belmonte still leads ave. 240+ and its right here at SINGAPORE, our door step, SuperBowl at Telok Blanhgah Mt. Faber.....Hor
Our Home Pride Remy Ong is in contention...... 4th now......wish him all the best.
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what's with the idolisation.. mmm..
jason belmonte never fails to impress me.. -
heard that No.1 Aussie is using 2 hands to bowl
how he do tat? anyone got video clips on how he bowl -
"With Great Powers, it comes with Great Responsibility"
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Power and Control is not needed..
U have to be consistently TYCO and string strikes and spare werid splits, piss ur opponent off and he starts missing then u will win!
Bowling is 99.99% luck and 0.01% skill, so wad if u got loads of brand new equipment, tat shows u have poor financial control, training 3-4 times a week until u can bowl with ur left foot and then lose to a kid with a house ball and house shoes, tat is REAL skill.
Daryl and Tom, i have seen u guys bowl and yes, u guys are well versed in the styles u are in, so no need to even talk about each other cos one spinner and one is hook! Totally diff school of play, even within ur own types, there are many diff tots on how to bowl and wad is the proper way.
Paeng was a poor kid, he bowled on lanes he built with his dad with a mattress as a cushion and he still went on to kick ass in the international zone, so who cares wad layers of oiliing or even PBA or not. Age is not a issue either and neither is style, look at jack wong, his roll is weird and he is old but he still doing good. All it takes is a LOVE for the sport and friends to enjoy the game with.
End of the day, a cock up bowler can kick a pro's ass on a good day. We are all here to enjoy the game, so those tat feel tat they wanna prove their insecurities by dissing others about their game or self praise, can take their balls and stuff it up ur ass for all i care.
Sit back and enjoy the game and make frens, share and help others who wanna learn, so no matter wad, we will all end up winners as a person. -
damn we r making this sound like some martila arts thingy.......hahahahaz but to credit so much of the game to luck isit it a little bit too...er....er....impulsive?
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Damn, I've been SO UNLUCKY!Originally posted by darylquek:damn we r making this sound like some martila arts thingy.......hahahahaz but to credit so much of the game to luck isit it a little bit too...er....er....impulsive? -
I don't know about you, but I'd bet that hurts.Originally posted by Spinnerooo:End of the day, a cock up bowler can kick a pro's ass on a good day. We are all here to enjoy the game, so those tat feel tat they wanna prove their insecurities by dissing others about their game or self praise, can take their balls and stuff it up ur ass for all i care. -
Hah
Didn't know an Open Discussion can turn out or interpreted to be a arena of "Showcase"
Sometime, sharing being interpreted as "ShowingOff "?
I'll leave it to the moderators to decide.
Anyway, my last words for this forum is,
He who knows, Shares
He who does not know, Learns
For me, I think I only knows 20%, Doesn't Know 80%, so is here to share what I know, and hoping to learn from rest.
Coz I know, there's always another higher mountain out there, if we are not at the top, learned from those who have conquered.....There's must be smoething we can learned.
Totally agrees with what spineroo had said......We are all winners...............
If only we can learn and share more openly
Oh...before I go, I'd like to apologised to you guys here at SIM/UOL forum, for making you guys uneasy for this thread and for my way of sharing.
Till we meet again(maybe on the lanes....Yah?)
Wishing all the best of luck in your bowling........
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year........Chaos