Originally posted by the Bear:i think CSJ should just commit suicide now..
and KJ should do that before CSJ just to say he did it first
SDP should sack CSJ and appoint VIncent Wijey as the new SecGen to restore their credibility.
Originally posted by iveco:
SDP should sack CSJ and appoint VIncent Wijey as the new SecGen to restore their credibility.
May the best arse win.
Originally posted by SevenEleven:If oppo can win in this BE even with multi-corners, then the MIW days are numbered
If MIWs fail this time, the GE will be multi-corners all over.
Originally posted by iveco:
Hougang has more older-gen voters. Why did they choose WP? Your logic is a little flawed.
Like what ditzy said..... Hougang has always had a substantial opposition base.
Otherwise, when you look at the population of Singapore as a whole, you would realize that the younger generation is the main base of support for the opposition.
The older generation is more likely to hark back to the memories of Singapore's 'economic miracle' of the 70s and 80s and hold on to old-fashioned notions of 'not biting the hand that feeds you' (i.e. the ruling party).
The younger generation would have no such memories and fewer sentimental notions towards the ruling party.
Originally posted by fudgester:Like what ditzy said..... Hougang has always had a substantial opposition base.
Otherwise, when you look at the population of Singapore as a whole, you would realize that the younger generation is the main base of support for the opposition.
The older generation is more likely to hark back to the memories of Singapore's 'economic miracle' of the 70s and 80s and hold on to old-fashioned notions of 'not biting the hand that feeds you' (i.e. the ruling party).
The younger generation would have no such memories and fewer sentimental notions towards the ruling party.
People age with time so there is always a shift in the numbers of elderly. Those that previously highly supportive of PAP may not be alive today.
Originally posted by Clivebenss:People age with time so there is always a shift in the numbers of elderly. Those that previously highly supportive of PAP may not be alive today.
Originally posted by SevenEleven:
like Tanjong Pagar? It had never been tested for years!
Queenstown is a very old estate so hard to get those elderly to vote the opps. That's why LKY is there; old like those residents.
Originally posted by iveco:
Desmond Lim was apparently paid by MIW to stop Lillian Lee from securing too many votes in GE11, according to Dalforce.
That was gossip from one of my friend who used to work under Desmond Lim. The fishy thing about Desmond Lim according to my friend was the campaign finance. He didn't seem to give a damn about how much money was lost or whether he won or not.
So we speculated that he had another agenda altogether.
Singapore Democratic Alliance (SDA) secretary-general Desmond Lim is set to do battle in a multi-cornered fight in Punggol East again.
The 44-year-old was unveiled as his party candidate in a press release issued at 1am on Tuesday morning.
In the statement, the alliance - made up of the Singapore Malay National Organisation (PKMS) and the Singapore Justice Party - said the decision to field Mr Lim in the upcoming by-election, "comes with a full on approach driven by dedication and determination". SDA said it also considered fielding motivational speaker Harminder Pal Singh, who was part of the SDA team that contested Pasir-Ris Punggol GRC in the 2011 General Election.
Mr Lim contested Punggol East in the 2011 polls under the SDA banner. In that showdown with the People's Action Party's Michael Palmer and Worker's Party Lee Li Lian, the principal engineer in telco M1 managed to garner only 4.5 per cent of the vote and lost his $16,000 election deposit.
But the dismal showing has clearly not deterred SDA chief. This time around his slogan will be "Dedicated Local, Determined Leader", a play on Mr Lim's initials.
The alliance said the slogan "depicts his goal to keep going, and the continual believe that voters will see the gumption that Mr Lim brings to the table."
Mr Lim said this election "is not just about choices" but "about making an informed decision". He added that "carrying a party brand is not enough to make a candidate the best choice".
"Voting in a person who can stick on and do the job is what will matter in the long run."
http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20130115-395588.html
SDP knew WP would rebuff plan, says Chee
By TODAY, Tan Weizhen | Posted: 15 January 2013 0613 hrs
SINGAPORE: After going public with its correspondence with the Workers' Party (WP) - which showed the WP continually ignoring its overtures to come to the negotiating table - Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) Secretary-General Chee Soon Juan said on Monday that the party "knew all along" that its proposal to WP would be rebuffed.
The SDP had proposed that the two parties jointly campaign in the Punggol East by-election, field an SDP candidate and have the WP run the town council, or vice versa.
By introducing its candidate on Monday afternoon, the WP formally rebuffed the SDP's proposal.
"We knew that all along, we are going to just have to do it, do whatever we have decided and go on," said Dr Chee. He was speaking to reporters last night, after a two-and-a-half hour meeting at the SDP headquarters to select the party's candidate for the coming polls.
Dr Chee said that choosing a candidate was a "difficult decision", but he declined to elaborate. Details would be revealed at a press conference on Tuesday, he said.
Of the SDP members likely to be fielded, only SDP Treasurer Vincent Wijeysingha - who contested in the 2011 General Election (GE) - was present at the meeting on Monday.
Medical doctor Paul Tambyah, also touted as a potential candidate, was not present in the evening or earlier meetings held in the afternoon. When contacted by TODAY, Dr Tambyah said he would be present at the press conference on Tuesday.
When contacted, SDP member Ang Yong Guan - who was among the names thrown up by the media - said he decided not to run as "there are already enough good candidates".
Asked what he thought of the WP's decision to ignore the SDP's overtures, Dr Ang said he was not surprised, adding that their decision to field Ms Lee Li Lian was "brilliant, as they can leverage on the 41 per cent (the percentage of votes that Ms Lee garnered in the last GE), so they are putting up a familiar face. They also show they aren't worried about the credentials of (PAP candidate) Dr Koh (Poh Koon)."
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1247970/1/.html
to the assholes in SDA and SDP:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
It's confirmed: Kenneth Jeyaratnam will contest
They all really have too much money to burn, huh?
Originally posted by fudgester:It's confirmed: Kenneth Jeyaratnam will contest
They all really have too much money to burn, huh?
then...
to the assholes in SDA, SDP and RP:
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
SINGAPORE - Reform Party chief Kenneth Jeyaretnam has confirmed he will be contesting the Punggol East by-election.
"Yes, it is confirmed," he said.
When asked why there was no formal introduction, he said, "Well I think people know me, without sounding arrogant, they know how hard I've campaigned on national issues like accountability, transparency and the use of reserves."
The 53-year-old revealed his campaign slogan is "no more broken promises", both on the local and national level.
"We don't have millions of dollars to promise, but one thing I can tell you, we won't make promises we can't keep."
On Monday evening, six members of the Reform Party, including Mr Jeyaretnam, handed out flyers to Rivervale residents from Blocks 123A to E and Rivervale Plaza patrons and shop owners.
The flyer contains a write-up on how the party aims to alleviate the income woes of Singaporeans as well as the party's contacts and biographies of Kenneth Jeyaretnam and the party's founder, his late father, JB Jeyaretnam.
It is illegal to campaign before Nomination Day on Jan 16, but when asked if Reform Party had broken any laws, Mr Jeyaretnam said this: "I'd say that's rubbish, both activities we've been carrying on for the past five years."
Mr Jeyaretnam met Punggol East residents from Blocks 196 and 197, who said they were concerned about problems such as water seepage, bad maintenance and slippery floors when it rains. Although he mainly discussed local issues with residents, Mr Jeyaretnam maintains tackling national issues is just as important.
Reform Party had called for assentors on its Facebook page on Sunday.
http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20130115-395564.html
5:27 pm | Monday, January 14th, 2013
SINGAPORE—Police said Monday they were investigating Singapore’s top daily The Straits Times over a voter survey it conducted ahead of a by-election in apparent breach of a law against polls during the campaign.
The by-election on January 26 is for a seat left vacant when the former Speaker of parliament, Michael Palmer, stepped down after confessing to an extramarital affair.
The Elections Department said an article published by the English-language newspaper on January 10, a day after the election was called, was “currently being looked into by the police.”
Police confirmed the investigation.
The Straits Times itself disclosed the investigation on its website late Sunday and said it would cooperate in any police probe.
The broadsheet’s January 10 issue carried a report on a poll it conducted among 50 residents in the contested ward. The article was headlined “ST poll: More rooting for PAP.”
The PAP, or People’s Action Party, has been in power since 1959.
“This was not a full-scale survey, or scientific poll, by any means,” editor-in-chief Warren Fernandez said in remarks carried by the newspaper on Monday, vowing to cooperate with any police probe.
“The headline for our story overstated the significance of the information gathered by calling it a poll. We are sorry for this lapse.”
The Straits Times is the flagship publication of Asian media giant Singapore Press Holdings.
In Singapore it is illegal to publish the results of voter surveys from the day the election is called until the end of polling.
Offenders can be fined up to Sg$1,500 ($1,200) or jailed for up to 12 months, or both.
The by-election will give a new snapshot of the public mood less than two years after the PAP suffered its worst ever election result in May 2011 when its share of the popular vote fell to 60 percent.
It still holds 81 of the 87 seats in parliament but has come under severe criticism for its handling of immigration and public services as well as the rising cost of living and widening income gap in the affluent city-state.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/340353/police-probe-singapore-daily-over-voter-poll
liew... U dangle a piece of meat...
everyone fight for it... no one sees the bigger picture anymore...
Originally posted by fudgester:It's confirmed: Kenneth Jeyaratnam will contest
They all really have too much money to burn, huh?
$16,000 election deposit is sup sup water to a hedge fund manager
Originally posted by FireIce:this whole thing wins joke of the yr.
Originally posted by SevenEleven:
nope....if the oppo manage to win, then it will be the joke of the year
Nope... it might symbolise a miracle has taken place or that 2013 is the year that earth will end
$16000, some people would use it to buy an AP, I'll buy a rolex deepsea dweller, and keep the change.
Originally posted by SevenEleven:
nope....if the oppo manage to win, then it will be the joke of the year
With the multi-cornered fight, even WP has no confidence to win the by-election.
The opposition is in disunity.
If the opposition can be united as one, PAP will face steep competition ie all the opposition leaders will stand up for the sole opposition candidate and they will speak on the many current issues in the election rallies.
The opposition will never be as one. That's like winning toto 3 times in a row.
Originally posted by ditzy:The opposition will never be as one. That's like winning toto 3 times in a row.
It might be possible.
One of the main reasons that the various parties want to participate in the by-election is that they want their views to be heard and counted.
So, one possible way is for WP to invite SDP, RP, NSP, DDP, SPP etc to speak in their election rallies.
So, be it Dr Vincent, Kenneth Jeyaretnam, Desmond Lim, Tan Jee Say, Benjamin Pwee , Chiam See Tong, Nicole Seah etc can speak in the election rallies and voice out their own views and be counted.
PAP will have a hard time.