Stance: there is no god
Reason: Recently in the world as well as in the past, many innocent people , good people were killed, hurt or murdered. Well, almighty god , if he exists, allow such things to happen despite knowing that human soicety could not cope with the peacefulness of the world to ensure everyone' safety.
Whatever his reasons may be, the fact, if he exists, is that he sacrificed these good people and peaceful people life.
Similarly, for bad people, god for some reasons, (if he exists), allow hitler, pol pot, to murder people successfuly. The fact is that many people are murdered, innocent peaceful people.
For pol pot, the vietnam ex ruler, god(is he exists), allow him to live to old age, and die peacefully in his sleep.
Common explanation is that god has a plan, and has a reason.
IF we accept this reason, then our conclusion is that
In god's plan, good peaceful people can be murdered, raped, tortured and diseased and hurt, and it is okay because it is god's plan.
based on the conclusion, its contradicts with the rule that
god love us..
therefore, it is contradicting. and god is not true, unless he is a schzopenia.
Originally posted by january:Stance: there is no god
Reason: Recently in the world as well as in the past, many innocent people , good people were killed, hurt or murdered. Well, almighty god , if he exists, allow such things to happen despite knowing that human soicety could not cope with the peacefulness of the world to ensure everyone' safety.
Whatever his reasons may be, the fact, if he exists, is that he sacrificed these good people and peaceful people life.
Similarly, for bad people, god for some reasons, (if he exists), allow hitler, pol pot, to murder people successfuly. The fact is that many people are murdered, innocent peaceful people.
For pol pot, the vietnam ex ruler, god(is he exists), allow him to live to old age, and die peacefully in his sleep.
Common explanation is that god has a plan, and has a reason.
IF we accept this reason, then our conclusion is that
In god's plan, good peaceful people can be murdered, raped, tortured and diseased and hurt, and it is okay because it is god's plan.
this is the god from one religion's viewpoint
there may be many other religion's viewpoint of god which do not accept the above explanations too
firstly are you disproving the existence of god, or disproving the existence of a benevolent god?
i mean, why not toy with the idea that there is a god, but its an evil one?
evil in our normal definitions of evil
Funny ley. People like to kill each other and do funny things to each other, this also have to put the blame on god?
No matter how perfect a being is.. There is only one way and one way of doing things... There's no way to work out all the imperfections when they're constantly appearing... Unless you decide to ELIMINATE them ALL. How would you like GOD to DO THAT?
why should we do ur homework ? -.-''
it was believed that God created Earth and put it in motion, allow nature to take its course... like how a seed grows into a plant and finally into a tree. He takes precise notes on how each seed is growing, only observing but never interfere in its growth.
If a plant decides to devour another plant, he will not object nor lend a helping hand for it will be stopping the "motion" that He has started when he created the world... He allows his angels to perform small miracles but nothing to alter the course of nature. how you grow from a young boy and finally into a man, he only observe and watch but never interfere in your own decisions.
he only watch and only when you die, does he judge you for what you have done during your time on earth. was it meaningful or was it a waste, it is up to your decision and God will judge accordingly.
well, at least that is what some believes...
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I have just written a very lenghty reply and for whatever reason its lost, I am not able to redo the msg and that felt really bad, but anyhow just to summarize, we need strength, and that comes from believe, and believe requires faith.
Did God really exist, it doesn't matter, did he really create the world in seven days, it doesn't matter, if you believe he did, he did, it not , than not.
The Bible is written by the man of faith for the faith of man, it is a religous book and not a history book.
Just imagine this experiment:
1) I show you a coin and held it in my hand with fist close.
2) I tell you that if this coin is in my hand you will have endless happiness.
3) I put it behind my back and manipulate the coin and my hand.
4) I show you my hand again, do you believe the coin is still in my hand?
5) I will not show you the results for the rest of your life. you decide if you want to belive.
God god god. got got got???
got God or no God
life still go on
Originally posted by noahnoah:
got God or no God
life still go on
ya lor ya lor
for wat nit to argue leh.
u beliv den hv.
u no beliv den no hv loh.
i just like to debate.. why? cannot meh.
if you really believe that there is no God, this topic wouldn't exist.
this topic exist because there are still many god believers...
about 3 to 5 billion i think .
well, if all 6 billion people are atheist.. this thread will not have existed at all.
Originally posted by january:this topic exist because there are still many god believers...
about 3 to 5 billion i think .
well, if all 6 billion people are atheist.. this thread will not have existed at all.
Originally posted by Hello Kitty:for wat nit to argue leh.
u beliv den hv.
u no beliv den no hv loh.
Originally posted by rlsh07:
so? seems to mi that you are not respecting other ppl's beliefs too.
this is an atheist subforum
Originally posted by Bangulzai:this is an atheist subforum
Originally posted by rlsh07:
i did not realise that. i just find that it's pointless to debate over this. it all depends on the person's beliefs.
:-)
Originally posted by marcteng:to each his own lar.
I have studied and read about all the major and minor religions in this world.
all preached about their god as the truth.
By the way, religion means praying to god or worshipping to god or the systematic worshipping to god.
why are u creating a thread in aethism subforum to debate to pplz that dont believe in God that God doesnt exist?
Originally posted by Freedom-Fighter:why are u creating a thread in aethism subforum to debate to pplz that dont believe in God that God doesnt exist?