either god is stupid or believers are stupid
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Up to 150 dead in India temple stampede
As many as 150 Hindu worshippers, many of them women, children and the elderly, were crushed to death Sunday in a stampede at a hill temple in northern India, police said.
Tens of thousands of pilgrims were thronging the Naina Devi temple in the hill state of Himachal Pradesh when rumours of a landslide caused by heavy rains sparked a colossal rush down a narrow, fenced-in stairway.
"A lot of the dead are women and children and elderly people. People thought there would be a landslide and the stampede started, and that was when people were crushed to death," a local police spokesman said.http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/364720/1/.html
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frankly speaking.... on hindsight i think it is the
organsier fault
the believers are also stupid because they should have forgo worshipping if they see so many people cramming like sardines along the narrow pathway.
but it shows you one thing.. god cannot protect you..
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Ironic
Punjab's chief minister, Parkash Singh Badal, announced the next of kin of the dead would receive 100,000 rupees (2,400 dollars) in compensation.
Temple crushes are common during festivities in India, where crowd control management is often rudimentary at best.
Despite the huge loss of life, officials said the pilgrimage was continuing only hours after the corpses were cleared. -
religion really numbs the brain.. oh my gosh..
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How true...
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These people died for their devotion. WHat is so stupid about that?
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each man for himself... religious? I doubt it....
Its time for India to keep their population in check, they are creating trouble for themselves by procreating unabatedly. -
They died is bcos of the human traffic flow is not good enuf. It does not mean any fault of GOD or it's Worshippers. Tho im an Athestic myself, ur topic title is really offensive.
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hmm... they cleared the bodies and cont the frenzy. life is cheap?
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They think that the Gods in the temple can protect them.
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everyone has their own belives , you as a good human being , should not take away someone's , Etc you cant go around telling ppl Orange is good , Apple is bad .
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ts: in ur title, u can specifically say Hinduism, instead of God in general, since stampedes dont happen in festivals of other religions, such as catholicism or christianity
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actually, i think the "most stupid" prize has to be given to the TS
if he believes there is no God, he's saying that the followers are stupid... goodness knows that almost all religions have their fanatics who will probably come hunt him down and kill him.. being an atheist, that would be the most horrific thing because there is no afterlife.. he's gone forever because he can't keep his mouth shut..
if they don't come murder him, it shows how impotent his words are.. for an atheist, that's their whole legacy.. and if people don't give a damn, that's their lives wasted...
if there is a God whom he has condemned, then... i kinda pity him after he dies
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Originally posted by ayucrazy:
ts: in ur title, u can specifically say Hinduism, instead of God in general, since stampedes dont happen in festivals of other religions, such as catholicism or christianity
In tat case, it wll become racist liaoz....
& it becomes another matter.It's obvious tat TS put up tat title purposely.
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Originally posted by the Bear:
actually, i think the "most stupid" prize has to be given to the TS
if he believes there is no God, he's saying that the followers are stupid... goodness knows that almost all religions have their fanatics who will probably come hunt him down and kill him.. being an atheist, that would be the most horrific thing because there is no afterlife.. he's gone forever because he can't keep his mouth shut..
if they don't come murder him, it shows how impotent his words are.. for an atheist, that's their whole legacy.. and if people don't give a damn, that's their lives wasted...
if there is a God whom he has condemned, then... i kinda pity him after he dies
Actually it's not his fault that TS is being atheists. It is the so called believers that has not left a good impression for TS to believe in God.
Have faith.
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Originally posted by OH-FF:
Actually it's not his fault that TS is being atheists. It is the so called believers that has not left a good impression for TS to believe in God.
Have faith.
But still, one swallow does not make a summer. There's always black sheep in any religion / race / category of humans.
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It gets worse when you have a "Stampede" of them as TS pointed out.
Sometimes you wonder is Religon a tool of God? or Tool of Men?
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offensive?? aiyah.,, nowadays must write abit offensive then can attract attention mah...
anyway.. the word stupid is very mild form of criticism liao... frankly speaking.. many of these people are poor... they are not well educated some more... so its is unavoidable that they believe in religion given their circumstances...
i just want to tell people that even when you are worshipping god like these people going up the hill asking for safety.. you may instead end up being killed in the process. such ironic case is suffice to tell people that god , if exist, is someone who does not ensure the safety of humans...
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hey i normally dun respond to threads that questions the existence of God but just here to add my cents worth since i am bored.
In this kind of cases where we say that just because people go to a church/temple/mosque or any religious building and die there, we say that God does not exist. Or we say that God is useless. Because God is suppose to ensure that everyone lives happily ever after and no one dies.
So can I say that because my father died under the hands of the surgeon in Changi Hospital, that surgeon is useless and Changi Hospital is useless? That surgeon is merciless and useless and we should not trust him anymore?
think abt that. ITs up to you to draw your conclusions. And yeah I dun need an answer from anyone here. Just a thought.
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Originally posted by RedizAlertz:
They died is bcos of the human traffic flow is not good enuf. It does not mean any fault of GOD or it's Worshippers. Tho im an Athestic myself, ur topic title is really offensive.
thanks for your counter argument.. as a atheist myself... i pride myself as a man of reason. reason, has the characteristic of self correcting ability, unlike faith.to further analysis your argument...
ya.. they died mainly because of poor traffic control and also their fervant religion. if they are not so desperate to pray to god, then this accident would have been avoided...
so its partly their fault and also the organiser fault. we all know the advice of dun-be-greedy and have-common sense... in this case.. these people really are stupid in a sense...
however. i know that its not their fault that they are ignorant or stupid. they are likely to be living in poor villages so their brain are not so smart. i dun laugh at them... although i admit my title seems to be laughing at them( see?? the feature of self correcting and admitting mistakes is at work)
the point is this. there is no god. if you want to be safe and sound in life, you need knowledge. if you want to be healthy , you need to have health knowledge and practise them. There is no god to help you. only you can help yourself.
if you want to be safe and sound, then you must have the knoweldge that such situation of overcrowdedness is dangerous. this knowledge, not god, is the key to ensure that will be safer in life.
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Originally posted by RedizAlertz:
They died is bcos of the human traffic flow is not good enuf. It does not mean any fault of GOD or it's Worshippers. Tho im an Athestic myself, ur topic title is really offensive.
thanks for your counter argument.. as a atheist myself... i pride myself as a man of reason. reason, has the characteristic of self correcting ability, unlike faith.to further analysis your argument...
ya.. they died mainly because of poor traffic control and also their fervant religion. if they are not so desperate to pray to god, then this accident would have been avoided...
so its partly their fault and also the organiser fault. we all know the advice of dun-be-greedy and have-common sense... in this case.. these people really are stupid in a sense...
however. i know that its not their fault that they are ignorant or stupid. they are likely to be living in poor villages so their brain are not so smart. i dun laugh at them... although i admit my title seems to be laughing at them( see?? the feature of self correcting and admitting mistakes is at work)
the point is this. there is no god. if you want to be safe and sound in life, you need knowledge. if you want to be healthy , you need to have health knowledge and practise them. There is no god to help you. only you can help yourself.
if you want to be safe and sound, then you must have the knoweldge that such situation of overcrowdedness is dangerous. this knowledge, not god, is the key to ensure that will be safer in life.
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Originally posted by the Bear:
if there is a God whom he has condemned, then... i kinda pity him after he dies
this sentence is very intimitating indeed. it is very good at bringing out the fear in people and make them remain as passive atheists.but i shall not let my fear overcome me. instead i have a word of him. i really pity those people and you who choose not to lambast the idea of god existence simply because they fear of meeting him in case he really exists and the wrath they may face from him.
these people are then truly pitiful because they chose cowardice over valor.
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In the name of fear and coward, they chose to rather sacrifice reason, something which their sense of identity is fundamentally built on, but which their could not fully embrace wholeheartedly because they have succumbed to the fear that god may just exist, along with hell waiting for them. haha..
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TS just revealed his stupidity.
Hundred over people killed in a stampede. Thats all there is to it.
The human body is quite frail, and when subjected to forces greater than it could bear, it will break, leading to injuries or death.
Temple pilgrimage, or Toto mayhem, a stampede is a stampede. A force is a force. No diff. The results will be accordingly.
The reason for the congregation is not the cause of death.