similarilty of buddhism enlightenment and feel god presence

• january

  14 Aug 07, 13:16

  some buddhism and students sometimes talk about feeling enlightened at a moment of their life and stuff
  
  this is similar to christian occasion ' i can feel god '
  
  actually all these are just sensation of biological, chemical and mental interactions of the human body but is commonly mistaken and interpreted in terms of spiritual, metaphorical, and religious way by those people.
  
  
• Herzog_Zwei

  14 Aug 07, 14:41

  How true, especially their claim of a non-dualistic mind...is a very questionable theory.
• An Eternal Now

  14 Aug 07, 19:46

  Originally posted by january:

  some buddhism and students sometimes talk about feeling enlightened at a moment of their life and stuff
  
  this is similar to christian occasion ' i can feel god '
  
  actually all these are just sensation of biological, chemical and mental interactions of the human body but is commonly mistaken and interpreted in terms of spiritual, metaphorical, and religious way by those people.
  
  

  Enlightenment has nothing to do with what you said.
  
  And it is not a feeling.
  
  It is simply the realisation of the nature of reality that is occuring at all moments.
  
  Perhaps you may want to read this to get a better understanding: "What is enlightenment, no, I mean really, like what is it?"
  
  The author is enlightened to no-self, non-duality, etc. Some of our enlightened forummers have also discussed about his article.
• An Eternal Now

  14 Aug 07, 19:47

  Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:

  How true, especially their claim of a non-dualistic mind...is a very questionable theory.

  I don't even think you know what is a non dualistic mind.
• SturmDerSchatten

  14 Aug 07, 20:22

  Originally posted by january:

  actually all these are just sensation of biological, chemical and mental interactions of the human body but is commonly mistaken and interpreted in terms of spiritual, metaphorical, and religious way by those people.
  
  

  You seem determined to dismiss any claims of spirituality and connected-ness. If so, then our world must be much more superficial than I thought it was. Besides, how do you explain how some people have had accurate visions of someone dying, even if it was a one-off event?
• january

  15 Aug 07, 01:23

  Originally posted by SturmDerSchatten:

  You seem determined to dismiss any claims of spirituality and connected-ness. If so, then our world must be much more superficial than I thought it was. Besides, how do you explain how some people have had accurate visions of someone dying, even if it was a one-off event?

  how do you explain that someone strike a toto first prize.
  Chance. Do you say he has super power just because he got the first prize.
  
  It is just a issue of coincidence.
  Anyway, For one person who has a accurate visions of someone dying, he probably had wrong visions 9 thousands times before he had this one correct visions.
  
  Maths. Its under one kind of fallacy where people just notice the rare events but do not consider the large number of failed ones.
  
  Like those killed victims who gives the correct numbers to win 4D. People will say the victim gives them luck.
  
  Attribution theory. Pyschology.
  
• january

  15 Aug 07, 01:31

  when someone made a accurate forecast of something. it could be due to a number of reasons.
  
  Chance. Magic skills. Fraud. Playing with sematics.
  
  Its like saying that those prophets is accurate cos he had made a correct prediction on a rare event. There are so many prophets in the world. The best one could not even score very well if you check his prediction records.
  
  
• Herzog_Zwei

  15 Aug 07, 09:26

  Originally posted by january:

  when someone made a accurate forecast of something. it could be due to a number of reasons.
  
  Chance. Magic skills. Fraud. Playing with sematics.
  
  Its like saying that those prophets is accurate cos he had made a correct prediction on a rare event. There are so many prophets in the world. The best one could not even score very well if you check his prediction records.
  
  

  january, very interesting article you have brought up.