'What is true christianity' fight is heating up again
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6289014.stm
Vatican text angers Protestants
By David Willey
BBC News, Rome
Pope Benedict XVI (9 July 2007)
The Pope has just begun his annual three-week break in the Italian Alps
Pope Benedict has approved a new text asserting that Christian denominations outside Roman Catholicism are not true Churches in the full sense of the word.
The document, issued by a Vatican watchdog, has been criticised as offensive by some Protestants.
The text was written by the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, headed by Pope Benedict before his election as Pope.
It states that Christ established only one Church here on earth.
Other Christian denominations, it argues, cannot be called Churches in the proper sense because they cannot trace their bishops back to Christ's original apostles.
True to tradition
The new text is basically a re-statement of another document known as Domine Jesus, published in the year 2000 under the signature of the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope.
That document set off a storm of criticism from Protestant and Anglican leaders who felt that the Vatican was failing to take into account progress made towards re-establishing Christian unity in talks with Rome over a period of many years.
It remains unclear why Pope Benedict chose to publish this document just as he begins a three-week holiday in the Italian Alps.
Admittedly, the document does stress that Pope Benedict remains seriously committed to dialogue with the other Christian Churches, but first reactions from Protestant Church leaders appear negative.
This is the second document issued by the Pope in recent days which re-evaluates the work of the Second Vatican Council, the reforming council held in Rome during the 1960s.
The Pope's point is that although this was a council of reform, the Church fathers meeting at that time remained true to Catholic traditions.
Pope Benedict is, in effect, attacking what he regards as later erroneous interpretations of what the council actually decided. -
I find this quite interesting. I attended a talk the other day by Seventh-Day Adventists where they explained in great detail why the Pope is the anti-christ.
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More pointless talking. It's funny to see how people can get angry over a small bit of text.
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I'm not sure what gibberish they sprouted but if it's about the Pope's official title numerically adding up to 666 and about the Pope's tiara being emblazoned with the title, you might find the following article interestingOriginally posted by Phaze:I find this quite interesting. I attended a talk the other day by Seventh-Day Adventists where they explained in great detail why the Pope is the anti-christ.
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Pope Fiction: Answers to 5 myths and misconceptions about the Papacy. (See Fiction Five) -
Originally posted by kenkaw:
I missed the second day of the talk. I was actually a bit disappointed when I attended it. I was led to believe it was going to be a presentation or lecture but it turned out to be some kind of worship session followed by a brief presentation of their arguments.
I'm not sure what gibberish they sprouted but if it's about the Pope's official title numerically adding up to 666 and about the Pope's tiara being emblazoned with the title, you might find the following article interesting :
Pope Fiction: Answers to 5 myths and misconceptions about the Papacy. [b](See Fiction Five)[/b]
I don't recall them saying anything about the numbers adding up to 666 though I do recall they mentioned the numbers. I don't really remember in what context they mentioned it.
I also don't recall them mentioning anything about the tiara though it might have been mentioned during the second day.
I won't attempt to present their views as I am wholly unqualified to do so, and any attempt would do it an injustice.
The point I was trying to make is that even within christianity itself, there are many views. Many of those views are not compatible with one another.
Just to make things clear, I don't think the Pope is the antichrist any more than I think Jesus the myth (as opposed to Jesus the man whom I suspect may actually have existed as a historical figure) existed. -
lmao!!! they are still doing this?Originally posted by Phaze:I find this quite interesting. I attended a talk the other day by Seventh-Day Adventists where they explained in great detail why the Pope is the anti-christ.
The only other group of people who will conduct this kind of talks are the Bible Presbyterians.. which is braggable.