Westboro Baptist Church - www.godhatesfags.com

• Phaze

  6 Jun 07, 17:22

  Westboro Baptist Church is the church behind the infamous God Hates Fags website.
  
  Their theology is very interesting to say the least. Fred Phelps, founder of Westboro Baptist, has justifications for all of his and his church's views. Here's a clip of him explaining the background of the term "God Hates Fags".
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0Z4Ep7VxWU
  
  They are the very definition of inbred. Fred Phelps does not allow church members to marry outside the church.
  
  Fred Phelps can be quite convincing. I listened to a debate where he presented his views. He draws all his justifications from the Bible but he explains it in a reasonable way. For example, when he talks about hatred, he claims it's not hatred as we understand it, but a kind of 'perfect' hatred.
  
  Once again, I realise that most Christians do not share his views. In fact, his most vocal opponents are Christians. However, it is another example of religious extremism.
• january

  6 Jun 07, 21:16

  feel scary going into their website....
  
  i think atheist are most peace loving group on earth.. they like to do thinks like looking at stars and cos they are more rationale, they usually abstain from fighting or violent behaviors....
• Phaze

  6 Jun 07, 22:40

  I'm not too sure about that. I don't think atheists as a group are any more peace loving than any other group. I think it's even hard to define atheists as a group.
  
  Someone once said that getting atheists to organize, or even agree on anything is like trying to herd cats. It can be done but it's really really hard. :p
  
  Anyway I just want to mention that the point of the original post is simply to demonstrate that we do not get our moral sense from the bible.
  
  Just as in the slavery example in the other topic, we use the bible to justify moral decisions we have already made.
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• Phaze

  6 Jun 07, 22:43

  Originally posted by january:

  feel scary going into their website....
  
  i think atheist are most peace loving group on earth.. they like to do thinks like looking at stars and cos they are more rationale, they usually abstain from fighting or violent behaviors....

  To be fair, these people are considered kooks by most Christians. It's not fair to judge how peace-loving Christians are by this worst example.
• SturmDerSchatten

  7 Jun 07, 23:33

  Goodness, this is embarassing. As a Christian, despite my not-so-devout-ness, I feel disturbed by these people who call themselves my "brothers" and "sisters". Yuck.