reality of life
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we can see that people pray and wish for safety in times of danger or nervous event but the truth is that praying and hoping does not change our reality.
look here, the fact is this. We ourselves and our family members has no assurance of safety in life and if bad things happen, we cannot stop it. we have to accept the bad things and the suffering and pain that comes with it. Therefore, we must spend more time accepting the uncertainty of life instead of feeling nervous and fearful. -
If u pray, and believe...
good things will come.
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Look like SFP..Originally posted by Ferret:If u pray, and believe...
good things will come.
I agree with TS. -
no harm in hoping and praying if it gives you a peace of mind
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when people pray, we hope that something good, will happen
when it happens, we praise god for that
now your thread is saying that people are living in self denial, maybe TS needs to elaborate more, or it will get confusing -
when u pray and something good happens, then you may think of thanking GOD. that is because you think GOD has something to do with it to make good things happen.Originally posted by allentyb:when people pray, we hope that something good, will happen
when it happens, we praise god for that
now your thread is saying that people are living in self denial, maybe TS needs to elaborate more, or it will get confusing
However, these beliefs are wrong. Your sense of causality of what cause what is wrong.
People are indeed living in self denial when they do not realize that terrible things can happen to them and their family at every moment of their life. It is actually a small chance only but still it is something we must acknowledge and be prepared.
People live in denial becaues normal people do not dare to think about terrible things happening to thme or their family. It is a kind of natural thing because imagining your family or yourself being chopped will bring disgust.
However, i read newspaper people and see many innocents people die by accident therefore i must naturally accept that it can happen to me too. -
you have your belief, so please respect other people belief as wellOriginally posted by january:when u pray and something good happens, then you may think of thanking GOD. that is because you think GOD has something to do with it to make good things happen.
However, these beliefs are wrong. Your sense of causality of what cause what is wrong.
People are indeed living in self denial when they do not realize that terrible things can happen to them and their family at every moment of their life. It is actually a small chance only but still it is something we must acknowledge and be prepared.
People live in denial becaues normal people do not dare to think about terrible things happening to thme or their family. It is a kind of natural thing because imagining your family or yourself being chopped will bring disgust.
However, i read newspaper people and see many innocents people die by accident therefore i must naturally accept that it can happen to me too. -
i am just putting forth my argument and i have not make attacking remarks so i think i being respectful enough.Originally posted by allentyb:you have your belief, so please respect other people belief as well
i am just presenting my explanation so that other believers have an opportunity to consider my explanation themselves. -
Techincally, irreligionists and aethists are sick and tired of religion believers taking pot shots at us.
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when you pray your mindset turns positive
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There is not much use praying, but just to fulfill ourselves.
A man got out of the desert thank the gods because his prayers managed to get in through. alot of people oooooooooohhhh ahhhhhhhhh(big commotion) watsoever.... because of something called divine intervention. While somewhere in the world, a man got out of the desert thank himself for having great stamina and able to hold out so long, but this time, people attribute this to him having great stamina.And no attention was given to him.
those that prayed and died did not receive the attention because they died and didnt managed to tell to the world!
Sorry, its late.type this fast.
The reality is that people trumpet so much about things that do no belong to reality. -
Meanwhile, your life goes to pieces.Originally posted by Eric Cartman:when you pray your mindset turns positive -
Mind commands body, and with body you achieve great thingsOriginally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Meanwhile, your life goes to pieces. -
I command you to fly! Yes! Now! Fly! whoooooooooooosh!!!!!!!Originally posted by Eric Cartman:Mind commands body, and with body you achieve great things
Splat!! -
why do you want to fly?Originally posted by kivine:I command you to fly! Yes! Now! Fly! whoooooooooooosh!!!!!!!
Splat!! -
Tell me if you are God...Originally posted by Eric Cartman:Mind commands body, and with body you achieve great things
Talking nonsense as usual. -
How do you achieve anything at all, you tell me.Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Tell me if you are God...
Talking nonsense as usual. -
And you tell me whether everything you planned will turn out smoothly in real life?Originally posted by Eric Cartman:How do you achieve anything at all, you tell me. -
If you pray and that's all you do...
like... pray and refuse to see the doctor...
like... pray and refuse to study for the exams...
like... pray and refuse to work for your salary...
like... pray and refuse to exercise to lose weight...
then prayer is bad
If you do your due diligence and pray to ease your mental stress... I think even atheists do that in times of crisis unless they have developed techniques to relieve mental stress without praying..
"praying to relieve mental stress" is good and that would mean... praying to "anything"
I expect some people to start screaming...
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If you dont plan how to do things?Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:And you tell me whether everything you planned will turn out smoothly in real life? -
v hav our vays....Originally posted by Your_Father:If you dont plan how to do things? -
I dont know ... when I pray, I suddenly feel at peace with the world ..Originally posted by january:we can see that people pray and wish for safety in times of danger or nervous event but the truth is that praying and hoping does not change our reality.
look here, the fact is this. We ourselves and our family members has no assurance of safety in life and if bad things happen, we cannot stop it. we have to accept the bad things and the suffering and pain that comes with it. Therefore, we must spend more time accepting the uncertainty of life instead of feeling nervous and fearful.
it's true that, SOMETIMES, our circumstances don't change. however, our mentality will change the way we view our circumstances.
other times, our circumstances DO change.
I dont often share this with people, but seeing as you dont know me, and seeing as it is relevant, I'll share something with you.
I was supposed to be disabled. The doctors were advising my mom to abort me.
My Dad is a pastor. My mom and dad prayed about it, as well as the rest of the church.
a few months before I was born, the doctor announced that I wasn't disabled anymore... They say that this only happens to one person outta a thousand.
coincedence? maybe, but I dont think so ..
I believe that prayer CAN change things ...
I don't know, sometimes, life gets too hard to bear.
We need to turn to someone else, right?
People choose who they want to turn to.
Some people choose to turn to God. And I wanna be one of them =). -
if praying is useful...
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I guess the other disabled people didn't pray hard enough...or are barking up the wrong tree...Originally posted by da-cheese-freakk:I dont know ... when I pray, I suddenly feel at peace with the world ..
it's true that, SOMETIMES, our circumstances don't change. however, our mentality will change the way we view our circumstances.
other times, our circumstances DO change.
I dont often share this with people, but seeing as you dont know me, and seeing as it is relevant, I'll share something with you.
I was supposed to be disabled. The doctors were advising my mom to abort me.
My Dad is a pastor. My mom and dad prayed about it, as well as the rest of the church.
a few months before I was born, the doctor announced that I wasn't disabled anymore... They say that this only happens to one person outta a thousand.
coincedence? maybe, but I dont think so ..
I believe that prayer CAN change things ...
I don't know, sometimes, life gets too hard to bear.
We need to turn to someone else, right?
People choose who they want to turn to.
Some people choose to turn to God. And I wanna be one of them =).
Praying induces a psychological effect upon oneself, dun think it as a miraculous effect. Science people...science. -
I don't say no to planning but Andrew is going beyond the blue in reality.Originally posted by Your_Father:If you dont plan how to do things?