Questions
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are there any Boeing 747-200 (not the mega-top jumbo jets) in SIA's current fleet?
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No 747-200 in SIA or SIA cargo's current fleet, if I'm not wrong. All 747-400.Originally posted by SBS3688Y:are there any Boeing 747-200 (not the mega-top jumbo jets) in SIA's current fleet?
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whats the difference between the -200 and the -400?
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It's still a 747 plane but of different specifications (eg: size, speed, engine, etc), kinda like cars.Originally posted by Vigelic:whats the difference between the -200 and the -400? -
easiest way to tell for passenger variants are the winglets and the upperdeckOriginally posted by Vigelic:whats the difference between the -200 and the -400?
744 has the longest upper-deck plus the addition of winglets
For the 744F look out for winglets.
Other than those structural changes, the 744 has a glass-c0ckpit, better engines, higher Critical mach number and i believe an extra internal fuel tank for more "legs" -
When I spot the 747, I always go for the engines, as most of the time its rare and almost impossible nowadays to see a JT9D powered 747, since it would be easiest to look for, somewhat a more exposed engine.
Others require a good eye, looking for windows at the upper deck and the SUD version of 200 I have yet to a real example but it should look like a 300.
For the 300 and 400 it would only defer by the winglets and the wingroot areas as observed and from books. -
You might wanna try Narita, one of the few remaining homes of the 747, you could get lucky, JAL still operates some -300s and JAL cargo flies converted -200sOriginally posted by jetabt767400:When I spot the 747, I always go for the engines, as most of the time its rare and almost impossible nowadays to see a JT9D powered 747, since it would be easiest to look for, somewhat a more exposed engine.
Others require a good eye, looking for windows at the upper deck and the SUD version of 200 I have yet to a real example but it should look like a 300.
For the 300 and 400 it would only defer by the winglets and the wingroot areas as observed and from books.
so to TS, if you get the chance hang around at Narita and go plane-spotting.
You might also wanna try http://www.airliners.net/search/?
just search for the plane you want in the list, if it isnt, then type it in the "keywords" box and you're all set -
Not all B747-400 has winglets or SUDs.Originally posted by jetabt767400:When I spot the 747, I always go for the engines, as most of the time its rare and almost impossible nowadays to see a JT9D powered 747, since it would be easiest to look for, somewhat a more exposed engine.
Others require a good eye, looking for windows at the upper deck and the SUD version of 200 I have yet to a real example but it should look like a 300.
For the 300 and 400 it would only defer by the winglets and the wingroot areas as observed and from books. -
I believe he was talking about the standard passenger 744Originally posted by megatron:Not all B747-400 has winglets or SUDs.
B747-400D (domestic) has no winglets
B747-400F (freighter) has no SUD
anything i miss?
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i think the diff bet Boeing 747-200 and 747-400 are:
747-200: one row of upper deck windows only
747-400: (MEGA-TOP) - 2 rows of upper deck windows -
Ah yes, that applies to the 400D.Originally posted by megatron:Not all B747-400 has winglets or SUDs.
Hmm, are there 400s with short upper decks? I not sure man... -
yup, 747-400FOriginally posted by jetabt767400:Ah yes, that applies to the 400D.
Hmm, are there 400s with short upper decks? I not sure man... -
There is a Stretched Upper Deck (SUD) variant of the Boeing 747-200, ie B747-200SUD, once operated by KLM.Originally posted by SBS3688Y:i think the diff bet Boeing 747-200 and 747-400 are:
747-200: one row of upper deck windows only
747-400: (MEGA-TOP) - 2 rows of upper deck windows
Likewise, do not forget about Boeing 747-300, aka Big Top. -
SIA is gonna phase out all the B744 by 2010
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But IIRC, the 747-400 currently still has the Longest SUD, as with 741-744s the main fuselage length doesnt change, only the upper deckOriginally posted by Superbus:There is a Stretched Upper Deck (SUD) variant of the Boeing 747-200, ie B747-200SUD, once operated by KLM.
Likewise, do not forget about Boeing 747-300, aka Big Top.Originally posted by monoslayer:
SIA is gonna phase out all the B744 by 2010
Damn sad to see them go from the SIA fleet, imo 747s are the best looking civilian airliners ever made...
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SIA's 747-400 on average is how old?
and the upper deck is First Class?
me 2 months back first time took B747
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Originally posted by Idle_King:
The length of the upper decks of 747-100SUD, 747-200SUD, 747-300 and 747-400 are the same.
But IIRC, the 747-400 currently still has the Longest SUD, as with 741-744s the main fuselage length doesnt change, only the upper deck [/b] -
hmm... i tot all 744 have winglets... those 743,742 dont have...
and btw for SQ 744 upper decks are business class...
first class are through door 1 left. the brown color single seats on the main deck front portion of the plane, tat look like coffin to me. -
hi megatron, im back!! im working in the Sg changi airport apron now... hope to see u around..Originally posted by megatron:Not all B747-400 has winglets or SUDs. -
Hi! SO YOU ARE!! so u got ur type rating? A&P or E&I? maintrol?
Take care and all the best to you ya!!Originally posted by elektra:hi megatron, im back!! im working in the Sg changi airport apron now... hope to see u around.. -
hihi... im not in maintrol. i be running ard with my assigned engineer. im still appentice, on SQ's 744 pax n cargo though. A&P. =)Originally posted by megatron:Hi! SO YOU ARE!! so u got ur type rating? A&P or E&I? maintrol?
Take care and all the best to you ya!!
maybe u'll hear my voice when the headset woman departs ur plane.. haha
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" Ckpit to ground,,push back to face North, Ma'am " ? Originally posted by elektra:hihi... im not in maintrol. i be running ard with my assigned engineer. im still appentice, on SQ's 744 pax n cargo though. A&P. =)
maybe u'll hear my voice when the headset woman departs ur plane.. haha -
lets say the flight schedule from SIN to Melbourne has been delayed by 5hrs. usually what does the airline do to prevent chain delays for the subsequent flight schedules? is there such a thing like cameo, spare planes (like singapore buses?)
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SQ's 744s average lifespan r abt 6yrs 4mths. upper deck is business class.Originally posted by 105090:SIA's 747-400 on average is how old?
and the upper deck is First Class?
me 2 months back first time took B747 -
approx how old are the oldest commercial jet fleet still in service in the world today and majority found on which countries/airlines?
in contrast, i think the average age of Singapore Airline jets are about 5yrs?