Hi Forummers,
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1024539/1/.html
As per the above report, only in Tampinese can cyclists cycle on footways.
My question is for those in other towns, how are cyclists supposed to cycle within their town, across road junctions and from block to block without the wheels touching on the footways? Seems like they have to cycle on the roads?
Pls can someone advise me? I cycle at times.
Sincerely
Ldoc
Originally posted by likedatosocan:Hi Forummers,
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1024539/1/.html
As per the above report, only in Tampinese can cyclists cycle on footways.
My question is for those in other towns, how are cyclists supposed to cycle within their town, across road junctions and from block to block without the wheels touching on the footways? Seems like they have to cycle on the roads?
Pls can someone advise me? I cycle at times.
Sincerely
Ldoc
Hi likedatosocan,
I believe that most areas have a path for people to walk on, and another path for cyclists to cycle on.
However, if there is no cycling path, the legal thing to do will be to cycle on the road. It is highly advisable to keep to the roadside though, as you never know when a reckless driver will knock you down.
Cheers.
Originally posted by likedatosocan:Hi Forummers,
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1024539/1/.html
As per the above report, only in Tampinese can cyclists cycle on footways.
My question is for those in other towns, how are cyclists supposed to cycle within their town, across road junctions and from block to block without the wheels touching on the footways? Seems like they have to cycle on the roads?
Pls can someone advise me? I cycle at times.
Sincerely
Ldoc
Hi Ldoc,
We, the citizens of singapore, are well brought up to "just follow lor(law)", so in this case the law states that:
Cyclists are no longer allowed to cycle on "footways", unless you are cycling in Tampines. (Refer to the link below on how "fine" this ruling is)
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1027177/1/.html
Hence, a quick answer to your query is (when cyling at non-tampinese area):
Hope this clarifies matters.
By the way why is this thread under Sports?
it is easier for non-cyclist to ask cyclist to cycle only on road
why not put yourself into shoes of cyclists?
many a time, being a cyclist on road, i have to give way to taxi stopping abruptly infront of me to pick up a passenger; endure multiple close shaves with cars zipping pass me( leaving so little space, and at times, i can almost touch their side mirrors) at high speed and risk falling down and getting rolled over by the car behind and cars that do not check their blind spot or just cut abruptly into the extreme left lane which im in, only to slow down to almost a complete stop before turning into the side road. hey! its not so courteous to force a cyclist riding at 30 over kmh to slow down suddenly. i have seen many cyclists endo ( flipped forward) because of this.
i have to admit that some cyclists are too much when they are speeding on pavement or riding recklessly. these are just minorities,so dont not pin the blame on the whole cycling community. so as to speak reckless behaviour, it seems like many road motorist are much reckless as their actions can cause more damage.
why not educate the motorist to practice road courtesy ( like signalling/ checking blindpsots/ leaving ample space when encountering a cyclist on road)? if the road is much more safer, i'm sure much more cyclists are more than willing to cycle on road.=)
Originally posted by TrueHeart:Hi likedatosocan,
I believe that most areas have a path for people to walk on, and another path for cyclists to cycle on.
However, if there is no cycling path, the legal thing to do will be to cycle on the road. It is highly advisable to keep to the roadside though, as you never know when a reckless driver will knock you down.
Cheers.
I have not seen many dedicated paths for bicycles. All i see are pedestrian walk paths around HDBs. I am surprised that you see that most places have cyclist path. Where do you stay?
Why the sudden declaration of such rules? Or have i missed something?
Is this ruling new? All the while like this?
So many need to cycle on pedestrian walkways. Now, suddenly , the news declared this. This could force many to peddle on the roads which is more dangerous and make drivers more frustrated or uneasy.
I would think that Only when bicycle paths are sufficiently developed should this rule be declared.
Alas, what to do? Maybe election time, less will be cycling point to point around their constituency or bicycle paths may be congested and 'ERP' introduced? hahaha pun intended.
Originally posted by likedatosocan:
I have not seen many dedicated paths for bicycles. All i see are pedestrian walk paths around HDBs. I am surprised that you see that most places have cyclist path. Where do you stay?Why the sudden declaration of such rules? Or have i missed something?
Is this ruling new? All the while like this?
So many need to cycle on pedestrian walkways. Now, suddenly , the news declared this. This could force many to peddle on the roads which is more dangerous and make drivers more frustrated or uneasy.
I would think that Only when bicycle paths are sufficiently developed should this rule be declared.
Alas, what to do? Maybe election time, less will be cycling point to point around their constituency or bicycle paths may be congested and 'ERP' introduced? hahaha pun intended.
It has been around for quite a while, just that it is not often mentioned. Until the amount of bicycle accidents on walking pavement start to go up that is.
Cycle on the road, try to keep close to the double yellow line. Please give way to buses while you're at it.
Originally posted by Diruga Vejida:It has been around for quite a while, just that it is not often mentioned. Until the amount of bicycle accidents on walking pavement start to go up that is.
A car driver has a car Insurance. If on road kenna accident, touch wood, got compensation. If force ALL cyclists to go onto the road and run with the 'tigers' and 'lions' of the road, would this not increase the number of road accidents? Does generl insurance cover cycling accidents?
So, while the reason as suggested is to lower reduce accidents, would this not cause the reverse to happen? Which is more dangerous? cycle on the road or on pathments?
I do not fully agree with the suggested reason, with due respect.
Are young people also forced to cycle on the road? else they break a rule?
Why are cycling paths not developed or as developed for other towns as it is for TP?
Where are the road signs to remind cyclists to cycle on the road and 'dance' with cars , lorries, trucks and buses?
Why implement this rule when the infrastructure is not ready?
Originally posted by likedatosocan:
A car driver has a car Insurance. If on road kenna accident, touch wood, got compensation. If force ALL cyclists to go onto the road and run with the 'tigers' and 'lions' of the road, would this not increase the number of road accidents? Does generl insurance cover cycling accidents?So, while the reason as suggested is to lower reduce accidents, would this not cause the reverse to happen? Which is more dangerous? cycle on the road or on pathments?
I do not fully agree with the suggested reason, with due respect.
Are young people also forced to cycle on the road? else they break a rule?
Why are cycling paths not developed or as developed for other towns as it is for TP?
Where are the road signs to remind cyclists to cycle on the road and 'dance' with cars , lorries, trucks and buses?
Why implement this rule when the infrastructure is not ready?
That is not a suggested reason... The rule has really been around for many years already.
It is because of the increased amount of bicycle-pedestrians accidents, that this rule is brought up and reminded to the public again.
Even if you complain and rant to me and the other forummers , there is nothing I can do. If you want, complain to the government instead...
Originally posted by Diruga Vejida:That is not a suggested reason... The rule has really been around for many years already.
It is because of the increased amount of bicycle-pedestrians accidents, that this rule is brought up and reminded to the public again.
Even if you complain and rant to me and the other forummers , there is nothing I can do. If you want, complain to the government instead...
You are ignoring the problem .
Actually the rule has been around for donkey years.
While it is illegal to cycle on the footpaths, the traffic police generally turn a blind eye to cyclists who are not cycling recklessly and will only catch those who are quite obviously riding unsafely.
Just go around, if the TP was really clamping down, they would literally have thousands of people to catch, not to mention it isn't really hard to drive around for more then a few moments before you spot people cycling on the footpath.
While it is written in law, it is one of those rules that the TP will enforce depending on the situtation... if the amount of complains on cyclists on the footpath goes up, they will then start to clamp down on it... but I don't think their intention is to stop cyclists from using the footpath, but rather to weed out reckless cyclists. Personally I have ridden on the footpath in the prescence of Traffic Police and they didn't pay me any further notice.
But use your common sense... if you see people on the footpath, use your bell and don't speed. Also don't zip past them at high speed and do unsafe things... cyclists have been sharing the footpath with pedestrians for years and there hasn't been too much of an issue if cyclists respect those who are walking. Unfortunately some jokers just don't do that and that's where the problem starts.
But riding on Singapore roads? I think your life is worth more then a $20 dollar fine. I just think the problem is not just with drivers, but with the fact that Singaporeans in general have no space for the humble bicycle in their minds as a valid form of transport, and hence act as if there isn't a need for them.
The current road environment is simply too unfriendly for safe riding, esp. for the mother who is ferrying her kid back on her bicycle (you expect her to ride on the road?) or the uncle riding his flying pigeon. What about a young secondary school boy? Ban everything? Limit cycling only to the parks?
But frankly I think more harm will be done trying to force cyclists to stick to the roads. The problem with trying to pass hard-and-fast rules is that they don't really solve the issues. Singaporeans really should be learning to move out of this "ban culture" and learning how to respect one another. It is our responsibility to cycle safely.
Alternatively, I feel a more useful ruling would be to catch reckless cyclists, as opposed to putting a blanket ban that does not really help anyone. Other nations have managed to accomidate bicycles into their midsts quite easily, and frankly it will Singapore be a joke and laughing stock of the world if we can't handle this in a mature way.
So yah, ride safely!