I practice what I preach-a view of my back

• Marco_Simone

  15 Oct 07, 09:04

  
  
  ONLY chins,rows and deadlifts to get this back.
  
  
  
  Will be working even harder to improve.
• storywolf

  15 Oct 07, 09:05

  Originally posted by Marco_Simone:

  
  
  ONLY chins,rows and deadlifts to get this back.
  
  
  
  Will be working even harder to improve.

  Wow !!! put some green paint - can be incredible hulk already !!!
• <Precious>

  15 Oct 07, 09:08

  Joining manhunt 2007?
• Simon Dean

  15 Oct 07, 09:41

  Originally posted by :

  Joining manhunt 2007?

  more like strongman 2008
• Marco_Simone

  15 Oct 07, 10:36

  Originally posted by Simon Dean:

  more like strongman 2008

  more like strongman 2009 if there is one.
• Jagged

  15 Oct 07, 15:12

  Hey that's a really impressive back you've got there. With regards to Rows, I seem to tire my biceps out faster than my back. In fact, I find targeting my back rather difficult to attain. Does it mean I have to strengthen my biceps first?
  
  I do my Rows bent as close to 90 degrees as possible. I hold the barbell at wider than shoulder width. I do bodyweight and assisted chins regularly and the occasional stiff legged deadlifts. I try to squeeze my back for those exercises but I find it toughest to target my back for Rows the most.
  
  Would you be kind enough to share any advice?
  
  Thanks so much.
• Marco_Simone

  15 Oct 07, 18:45

  Originally posted by Jagged:

  Hey that's a really impressive back you've got there. With regards to Rows, I seem to tire my biceps out faster than my back. In fact, I find targeting my back rather difficult to attain. Does it mean I have to strengthen my biceps first?
  
  I do my Rows bent as close to 90 degrees as possible. I hold the barbell at wider than shoulder width. I do bodyweight and assisted chins regularly and the occasional stiff legged deadlifts. I try to squeeze my back for those exercises but I find it toughest to target my back for Rows the most.
  
  Would you be kind enough to share any advice?
  
  Thanks so much.

  At first,I wanted to introduce the preexhaust method to you but wait,how much are you rowing now?
• sLeEpWaLkErInG

  15 Oct 07, 18:52

  that's a pretty much mass, i think u will look outstanding with cutting.
• Bar is active

  15 Oct 07, 19:01

  Originally posted by sLeEpWaLkErInG:

  that's a pretty much mass, i think u will look outstanding with cutting.

  yea i too think u need some cutting.. not much definition but definitely alot of muscle mass
• Simon Dean

  15 Oct 07, 20:29

  He probably will look like that if he cut
  
  
• galapogos

  15 Oct 07, 20:30

  Not everyone cares that much about getting to sub-10% body fat...I think Ben would rather increase his deadlift by 20kg than lose 5kg of body fat
• Jagged

  15 Oct 07, 20:36

  I am quite a newbie to weight lifting in the gym. Bent over rows I've only tried until 20kg or 20+kg barbells before I hit fatigue in the biceps. Because I can't quite grasp the technique I tend to do the machine seated rows more. Until 110 (pounds I suppose).
  
  I have read about the pre-exhausting method, but wouldn't it make me fatigue my biceps faster? And what exercises actually help to pre-exhaust in preparation for Rows?
• Simon Dean

  15 Oct 07, 20:38

  Well simple..
  
  If you think you are unable to concentrate on proper form with 20kg, then use a 12.5kg-15kg barbell.Form first the the weight.
• Jagged

  15 Oct 07, 20:54

  Oh yes, that could be it.
  
  However, this is really embarassing: I do try to consciously pay attention to form and hopefully 'time-under-tension' after advice from another friend when I started out 6 months ago. But what happened is that I'm still pretty much doing the same poundage for certain exercises like Rows since the first time I started. Just trying to go up a stack and I'll lose form altogether. Not getting any stronger nor bigger.
• eagle

  15 Oct 07, 21:35

  Originally posted by Marco_Simone:

  
  
  ONLY chins,rows and deadlifts to get this back.
  
  
  
  Will be working even harder to improve.

  nice back!
  
  but the photo a bit not taken well... Handphone camera is it?
  
  Btw, when I went swimming today in school, I saw all those NUS students training for Biathlon swimming many many laps. When they got ready to bathe, almost everyone sport huge chest, well defined backs and abs that are really big and deep. Really like those magazine style models. It's definitely not genetics because more than 20 of them have the same body, almost a carbon copy of each other already
• Marco_Simone

  15 Oct 07, 21:39

  Originally posted by Jagged:

  Oh yes, that could be it.
  
  However, this is really embarassing: I do try to consciously pay attention to form and hopefully 'time-under-tension' after advice from another friend when I started out 6 months ago. But what happened is that I'm still pretty much doing the same poundage for certain exercises like Rows since the first time I started. Just trying to go up a stack and I'll lose form altogether. Not getting any stronger nor bigger.

  Form which is a bit loose is fine,that's what I think anyway.
  
  I think you perform every rep 100% sui sui,very hard to progress in terms of load.
  
  
• seotiblizzard

  15 Oct 07, 21:50

  
• Jagged

  15 Oct 07, 23:09

  I take it that you mean it's ok to jerk/cheat slightly to progress to higher weights?
  
  I suppose we'll just have to try huh? We don't just go to gym one day and realise the weight you carried the previous visits has become chickenfeed all of a sudden, right?
• speakupforyourrights

  15 Oct 07, 23:14

  Originally posted by eagle:

  nice back!
  
  but the photo a bit not taken well... Handphone camera is it?
  
  Btw, when I went swimming today in school, I saw all those NUS students training for Biathlon swimming many many laps. When they got ready to bathe, almost everyone sport huge chest, well defined backs and abs that are really big and deep. Really like those magazine style models. It's definitely not genetics because more than 20 of them have the same body, almost a carbon copy of each other already

  clones?
• galapogos

  15 Oct 07, 23:38

  Originally posted by Jagged:

  I take it that you mean it's ok to jerk/cheat slightly to progress to higher weights?
  
  I suppose we'll just have to try huh? We don't just go to gym one day and realise the weight you carried the previous visits has become chickenfeed all of a sudden, right?

  Slightly is ok, for really heavy weights. 20+kg is not heavy for bent over barbell rows. Heck I do about 60kg single hand dumbbell rows, but yes I do cheat slightly with some back torsion. Trying to get rid of that. First it was the grip failing. Now I've fixed that part with a much stronger grip, now the back is the limiting factor...
• FireIce

  15 Oct 07, 23:39

  where's the number to call eh?
• cApitaland

  15 Oct 07, 23:42

  gym outing!
  
  wow your shape is V until liddat. must be hard buying clothes..
• Marco_Simone

  16 Oct 07, 12:56

  I do my bent over rows at around 30 degrees to the ground.When it gets heavy,I will heave a bit and the angle will increase a bit too,maybe to 45 degrees.Anymore than that and it is a half assed shrug cum don't know what
• de_middle

  16 Oct 07, 12:58

  Originally posted by FireIce:

  where's the number to call eh?

  u prefer front view right....
• Marco_Simone

  16 Oct 07, 20:55

  What no to call?