How to loose body fat

• eagle

  30 Jun 07, 23:07

  Hopefully you can list too the disadvantages of heavy dieting in order to lose body fat...
  
  Looking forward to your contribution
• Simon Dean

  1 Jul 07, 09:12

  If you are talking about cutting back calories by a lot
  
  Side effects are low energy drive, grouchy and LOWER TESTERONE production.
• mancha

  1 Jul 07, 10:03

  The topic is how to loose body fat.
  That means the fat that is already in your body.
  How did the fat get there in the first place?
  Through you mouth.
  
  Fat have a useful purpose in our bodies. It acts as an insulation against cold, a cushion against hard knocks, and as an energy reserve.
  
  Fat is not good only when it is in excess and puts a strain on the body's heart, lung machine, and its arteries, and skeletal structure.
  
  There is a direct co-relation betwen eating and and fat build up for most of us.
  Although there are in rare cases a person becomes obese because of genetic disposition.
  
  
• rikki

  1 Jul 07, 15:08

  Then can i ask if swimming will help? Since i have very heavy masses, 190 pounds. And im 180cm. Jogging will only hurt my knees?
  
  Interval training as in?
  
  This will be of a great help to me, thanks so much.
• eagle

  1 Jul 07, 16:17

  Originally posted by mancha:

  There is a direct co-relation betwen eating and and fat build up for most of us.
  Although there are in rare cases a person becomes obese because of genetic disposition.
  
  

  For me, all the males in my family, after my grandpa, have a tummy. And although I exercised a lot during army, I still cannot cut down to a six-pack. My dad is also one that runs a lot, and can easily get gold for IPPT when he was around age 40+. However, i have always seen him with a tummy. Genetic? It's hard to say sometimes.
  
• eagle

  1 Jul 07, 16:19

  Originally posted by Simon Dean:

  If you are talking about cutting back calories by a lot
  
  Side effects are low energy drive, grouchy and LOWER TESTERONE production.

  Not to mention the possibility of the yo-yo effect, and if done long term, the possibility of early onset of osteoporosis.
• Simon Dean

  1 Jul 07, 16:28

  Burpees and inclined pullup intervals are what i do
  
  10 mins of interval training is guranteed to make your heart pound faster than 30 mins of jogging.
• airgrinder

  1 Jul 07, 23:38

  Originally posted by rikki:

  Then can i ask if swimming will help? Since i have very heavy masses, 190 pounds. And im 180cm. Jogging will only hurt my knees?
  
  Interval training as in?
  
  This will be of a great help to me, thanks so much.

  This one I can confirm. Hehe
  
  Normal swimming doesn't help as much. Very very intensive swimming (warm up 20 laps before training that kind) will help, but its also not significant as compare to training out of the pool. Read an article saying its suppose to be due to the body losing heat in the water. And, if a person's already obese, how can he/she have the ability to go through such intensive swimming.
  
  Our national swimmers do a lot of out-of water training in the gym too.
  
  jogging will hurt knees, spine, and morale, when a cute babe overtakes you. keke
• rikki

  1 Jul 07, 23:52

  I try my best to swim at least 12 laps without stopping . Does it help? I dont mind my shoulders being broader. Do you have more tips on how to lose weight? Thanks a thousand, im writing this down.
• OPT

  2 Jul 07, 00:01

  swimming is not optimal for fat loss.
• breytonhartge

  2 Jul 07, 00:02

  used to just do steady state training on the arc trainer on level 10 and 100 resistance for 45mins.. and just had my first HIIT session yesterday... my legs are burining, but I will keep it up and see how I go in terms of loosing fat... thanks for posting...
• JoBonez

  2 Jul 07, 10:55

  Originally posted by rikki:

  Then can i ask if swimming will help? Since i have very heavy masses, 190 pounds. And im 180cm. Jogging will only hurt my knees?
  
  Interval training as in?
  
  This will be of a great help to me, thanks so much.

  jogging will hurt your knees, but running wont. jogging impacts knees, which is bad, running impacts leg muscles, which is good.
  
  or you can try the bodyweight intervals that Simon Dean suggested, this really trains your cardio, plus 10 min of this is over nice an quick, a 30+ min jog will get boring
• JoBonez

  2 Jul 07, 10:57

  thanks for the info guys, keep it coming!
  
  perhaps the information should be compiled into one or two posts later on and posted as a sticky? just so people who may not frequent this forum will see it?
• Simon Dean

  2 Jul 07, 11:04

  I frankly doubt many will listen either..like 90% at least.
• ArdusKane

  2 Jul 07, 15:01

  Originally posted by JoBonez:

  jogging will hurt your knees, but running wont. jogging impacts knees, which is bad, running impacts leg muscles, which is good.

  Care to elaborate?
• OPT

  2 Jul 07, 18:27

  Originally posted by JoBonez:

  jogging will hurt your knees, but running wont. jogging impacts knees, which is bad, running impacts leg muscles, which is good.
  
  or you can try the bodyweight intervals that Simon Dean suggested, this really trains your cardio, plus 10 min of this is over nice an quick, a 30+ min jog will get boring

  Where do you guys get this information from???????
  
  
• OPT

  2 Jul 07, 21:03

  ok lets get this straight
  
  Stress factors relating to gait in order of highest to lowest.
  
  1. Sprinting
  2. Running
  3. Jogging
  4. Walking
  
  As you can see sprinting created the greatest amount of stress - but of bodies are design to take this stress - when they are working correctly otherwise we would have been extinct a long time ago.
• galapogos

  2 Jul 07, 22:59

  Hmm, I was under the impression that jogging places more stress on your joints than sprinting too. Is that also one of those myths? I've seen research papers that seem to support this though, most notably "Biomechanics of walking, running, and sprinting" at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=7416353&dopt=Abstract
  
  

  Electromyographic activity about the knee demonstrated increased activity in the quadricep muscle group and hamstring group with increased speed.

  I guess this is where the "running places more stress on muscles, jogging more on the joints" comes from?
  
  Here's another article that also support this point:
  
  http://www.makesyoufast.com/2007/03/why-jogging-is-bad-for-you.html
  
  Thoughts?
• OPT

  2 Jul 07, 23:14

  As you increase speed you increase ground impact - Up to 10x bodyweight for sprinting.
• galapogos

  2 Jul 07, 23:32

  But who bears the brunt of the impact? The article/paper seems to suggest that the quads/hammies/calves/other muscles bear the load more than the joint
  
  From the pubmed paper
  

  Beside the changes in the electromyographic activity of the muscles, the anterior compartment muscles of the calf undergo a concentric contracture at the time of initial floor contact during running and sprinting but undergo an eccentric contraction during walking.

  From the 2nd article
  

  First of all, think about jogging. Moving slowly forward, planting your feet flat (or heel first), not much motion in your upper body. You've felt it yourself or seen other people 'feeling it' as they plod around.
  
  This type of motion does NOT take advantage of your biology. In fact, it leads to a huge amount of repetitive impact and stress on your joints. This is why so many people have back and knee problems when they start jogging to get in shape.
  
  Sprinting, on the other hand, takes full advantage of the built in 'shock absorbers' and stabilizers in your body. The tendons and ligaments in your legs, the arches in your feet, the surface area of your joints, our big buhts, the width of your shoulders, the narrowness of your hips, your head - all built to run fast, not jog.
  
  Not only that, the proper planting of your feet while sprinting increases the shock absorbtion even more - saving your body from nagging pain and injury in the process.

• galapogos

  2 Jul 07, 23:37

  OK, after reading your previous post I realize that we're making the same point - sprinting causes more stress on the body, but a different type of stress that's concentrated on different parts of the body.
  
  Simply put - jogging bad, sprinting good
• alwaysdisturbed

  3 Jul 07, 00:27

  Originally posted by eagle:

  For me, all the males in my family, after my grandpa, have a tummy. And although I exercised a lot during army, I still cannot cut down to a six-pack. My dad is also one that runs a lot, and can easily get gold for IPPT when he was around age 40+. However, i have always seen him with a tummy. Genetic? It's hard to say sometimes.
  

  cause of body composition
  
  genes, hormones and environment.
  
  PS: environment can overwrite genes.
• ArdusKane

  3 Jul 07, 00:57

  Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:

  cause of body composition
  
  genes, hormones and environment.
  
  PS: environment can overwrite genes.

  I take it you mean environment as in daily life?
• alwaysdisturbed

  3 Jul 07, 01:11

  Originally posted by ArdusKane:

  I take it you mean environment as in daily life?

  things you choose to do or not to do.
• DC+

  3 Jul 07, 01:26

  Originally posted by OPT:

  swimming is not optimal for fat loss.

  then what do you suggest is optimal?
  
  let me take a guess first..a combination of cardio and other exercises huh