some random questions

• tut4nkh4m3n

  15 Jun 07, 21:58

  how many pull ups is considered decent? same for dips. and i used to feel a pain right in the middle of my chest when doing dips. no more though.
  
  and mentioned in another thread that dips train the same muscles as push ups. really? i don't exactly feel it on my pecs after doing dips.
• galapogos

  15 Jun 07, 22:16

  http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1563264
• Simon Dean

  15 Jun 07, 22:23

  Dips are better than the STANDARD pushup.Unless you talking about one arm and handstand pushups.
• Marco_Simone

  15 Jun 07, 22:41

  Originally posted by galapogos:

  http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1563264

  my military press is "Good"
  
  my squat,DL,pull up is "Decent"
  
  my bench not even "Decent"
  
  
• galapogos

  15 Jun 07, 23:51

  going by bodyweight or absolute? but you weigh about 200lbs also right? So either way it works out almost the same for you...
• Marco_Simone

  15 Jun 07, 23:58

  Originally posted by galapogos:

  going by bodyweight or absolute? but you weigh about 200lbs also right? So either way it works out almost the same for you...

  I weigh 87-88kg
  
  my military press is 75kgx1(165lb)which is "good" according to that t-nation guy
  
  but according to this set of standards,
  
  http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/PressStandards.html
  
  my MP is "Advanced"
  
  Squat/DL all ard 1.5xBW so only decent lor
  
  
• galapogos

  16 Jun 07, 00:59

  hmm, ok...going by that chart my press can almost be considered elite liao haha...cannot be lah
• tut4nkh4m3n

  17 Jun 07, 00:42

  Originally posted by Simon Dean:

  Dips are better than the STANDARD pushup.Unless you talking about one arm and handstand pushups.

  if you are able to do one arm push ups, should you keep training them or stick to the two arm ones? cos if you choose to do single arm push ups, you'll probably only be able to do about reps of three whereas for the other one you'll be able to do reps of twenty or thirty?
• Simon Dean

  17 Jun 07, 09:59

  Originally posted by tut4nkh4m3n:

  if you are able to do one arm push ups, should you keep training them or stick to the two arm ones? cos if you choose to do single arm push ups, you'll probably only be able to do about reps of three whereas for the other one you'll be able to do reps of twenty or thirty?

  I prefer to keep training something that is already hard to be by many.
  
  End of the day, i will be stronger than most.
• tut4nkh4m3n

  18 Jun 07, 00:11

  Originally posted by Simon Dean:

  I prefer to keep training something that is already hard to be by many.
  
  End of the day, i will be stronger than most.

  makes sense.
  
  okay, another question, when you do weights, should you do it slowly and at a steady pace of say, sets of fifteen reps?
  
  or, just do fifteen reps each set as fast as you can?
  
  or, it doesn't matter?
  
  or, for eg, bench pressing with dumbbells, on the way down you go slow, and you give a boost when pushing upwards?
• WiNtEr'SkiLL

  18 Jun 07, 00:12

  12- 16
• Simon Dean

  18 Jun 07, 09:34

  Slower on the eccentric, explode on the concentric.
  
  Eccentric is the part whereby you lower the weights down.Concentric is the part where you lift it up.In your case of benchpress.
  
  Rep range depending on what is your goal.