I train at a private gym managed by my friend's friend.
The vertical chest machine's max was 100kg.But i could throw out 12 easy reps.
So with the owner's permission, i took a rope and tied 2 5kg dumbbells to it and did 3 sets of 10.
i shrug 140kg b4...i use the cable cross machine use max oso no kick liao ah...ahahah