Looking for good bowling coach
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Hi all, I am a right handed hook bowler. I have been bowling for a few years now but i am still not able to stay consistent in my delivery. I am looking for a coach now. Any recommendations guys?
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Hi bowlingisfun,
My $0.02 suggestion to you is that you should call up some of the bowling centres convenient to you and ask if they have coaches conducting lessons there, go observes as many as you could and see who you like to learn from than decide.
For ppl to make recommendation here could be subjective, what if the coaches here does not suits your favour?
Good Luck
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what an idiotOriginally posted by Freedom Fighter:sign on to SAF -
Thanks for sharing Spook.Originally posted by Spook:Hi bowlingisfun,
My $0.02 suggestion to you is that you should call up some of the bowling centres convenient to you and ask if they have coaches conducting lessons there, go observes as many as you could and see who you like to learn from than decide.
For ppl to make recommendation here could be subjective, what if the coaches here does not suits your favour?
Good Luck
Actually I had several coaches in the past and when they saw me bowl, they would always ask me to change my style of bowling. Not to correct my mistake, but to totally change my style, which i feel that it shouldnt be the way.
I am a cranker and I cant help but feel that just because they do not know how to coach a cranker, they asked me to change to a style which they are comfortable in coaching; a stroker. The reason why i concluded this is because they would say things like that "your timing is late", "try not to bend your elbow" "you should not have an open shoulder"and blar blar blar ... Isnt those the trademarks of a cranker?
Just would like to have someone, who knows how to coach cranker, coach me.
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Hi bowlingisfun,
At the current moment I don't think there's one specific "Cranking Coach" available in SG now, most know how to crank are mainly bolwers, not ready for official coach, perhaps a few years time maybe.
So how? learn the hard way by trial and error...... I Did.....and I've Done it !
was a Spinner though......... Hehehehe.
P.S.
Personally, I felt Crankers got to be prepared Very High/Low games, as lane conditions and ball selection play a vital part on the games.
You may want to consider enrolling the below course, perhaps you will learn something....Posting for a pal Aloysius, he's helpful guy and a cranker too.
Act fast, coz its just around the corner...........Cheers
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Thanks for the info Spook.
But do you know if it would be a full 3 days course? Do you by chance have the itinerary for this program?
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You can gif him a call to find out more, am sure he's most willing to help you, don't worry he's a very young and nice guy.
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Hi brotherOriginally posted by bowlingisfun:Thanks for sharing Spook.
Actually I had several coaches in the past and when they saw me bowl, they would always ask me to change my style of bowling. Not to correct my mistake, but to totally change my style, which i feel that it shouldnt be the way.
I am a cranker and I cant help but feel that just because they do not know how to coach a cranker, they asked me to change to a style which they are comfortable in coaching; a stroker. The reason why i concluded this is because they would say things like that "your timing is late", "try not to bend your elbow" "you should not have an open shoulder"and blar blar blar ... Isnt those the trademarks of a cranker?
Just would like to have someone, who knows how to coach cranker, coach me.
I got same problem with you liao,don't worry..u not alone.
To tell you the truth,I've heard it all,''wahliao,stand 2nd dot aim 2nd arrow la,why u stand so far?why you must throw like that'', ''wah piang,ur line so jialat!u must slide liao,dont be stubborn!score so lousy,you can play in children league la''...Actually i almost give up bowling due to some negative comments.But I appreciate the advice of those sincere wanna help me la.
In my opinion,changing your natural way(crank) to something else is very very difficult and I think we shld just keep improving our natural style of bowling.I've been learning by trial and error for abt 8 months,just like someone here mention and I'm still not even 70% there.LOL.It sure cost a bomb but if you're serious,I believe its worth it.
I normally start at 5 boards left of middle dot and aim in between 3rd & 4th arrow and my problem is getting my balance(fast feet,slow feet?I dont know..hehe) and therefore my line is always out.And also its very hard to repeat the same shot. Whats yours?
Good luck man and if u consistent already,can coach me ok
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Yeah Diah07,
That's the fighting spirit
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You guys knows Jason Belmonte? can his style be coached by a conventional style coach? Yes & No
Yes, on the technical & fundamentals part of bowling.
No, on the style of bowling, a coach can only provide some informations and useful knowlegde on the lanes and balls.
The rest...... I'll guess its up to his own hard work thru trial & errors.
Go to you tube and to a look up.
Am also trying his style off late, quite fun too -
Yoz bro, thanks for sharing the infor man. Appreciate it alot. Maybe we could bowl and learn together. Actually, i have always been trying to join a bowling league but i just couldnt find enough people to form a team. I stay in the West. What do you say if we come out and bowl a game or two some day?Originally posted by Diah07:Hi brother
I got same problem with you liao,don't worry..u not alone.
To tell you the truth,I've heard it all,''wahliao,stand 2nd dot aim 2nd arrow la,why u stand so far?why you must throw like that'', ''wah piang,ur line so jialat!u must slide liao,dont be stubborn!score so lousy,you can play in children league la''...Actually i almost give up bowling due to some negative comments.But I appreciate the advice of those sincere wanna help me la.
In my opinion,changing your natural way(crank) to something else is very very difficult and I think we shld just keep improving our natural style of bowling.I've been learning by trial and error for abt 8 months,just like someone here mention and I'm still not even 70% there.LOL.It sure cost a bomb but if you're serious,I believe its worth it.
I normally start at 5 boards left of middle dot and aim in between 3rd & 4th arrow and my problem is getting my balance(fast feet,slow feet?I dont know..hehe) and therefore my line is always out.And also its very hard to repeat the same shot. Whats yours?
Good luck man and if u consistent already,can coach me ok -
ho hoOriginally posted by Spook:Yeah Diah07,
That's the fighting spirit .
You guys knows Jason Belmonte? can his style be coached by a conventional style coach? Yes & No
Yes, on the technical & fundamentals part of bowling.
No, on the style of bowling, a coach can only provide some informations and useful knowlegde on the lanes and balls.
The rest...... I'll guess its up to his own hard work thru trial & errors.
Go to you tube and to a look up.
Am also trying his style off late, quite fun too
i can get a strike with 2 finger 2 hands if the lane condition is right -
He's the Australian bowler rite?Originally posted by Spook:Yeah Diah07,
That's the fighting spirit .
You guys knows Jason Belmonte? can his style be coached by a conventional style coach? Yes & No
Yes, on the technical & fundamentals part of bowling.
No, on the style of bowling, a coach can only provide some informations and useful knowlegde on the lanes and balls.
The rest...... I'll guess its up to his own hard work thru trial & errors.
Go to you tube and to a look up.
Am also trying his style off late, quite fun too
I think I agree with u on the fundamentals thing.
But only those with 'special style' can help themselves... -
I stay north area but I always bowl at Bukit Batok liao..Originally posted by bowlingisfun:Yoz bro, thanks for sharing the infor man. Appreciate it alot. Maybe we could bowl and learn together. Actually, i have always been trying to join a bowling league but i just couldnt find enough people to form a team. I stay in the West. What do you say if we come out and bowl a game or two some day?
You always bowl where?
Anyways,I have to tell u my average very jialat liao.
Later we play together,I scared u'll get bored because no fight one... -
haha, no worries bro. me also jia lat. i always bowled at BB too. I played at CDAN. where do you normally bowl?Originally posted by Diah07:I stay north area but I always bowl at Bukit Batok liao..
You always bowl where?
Anyways,I have to tell u my average very jialat liao.
Later we play together,I scared u'll get bored because no fight one... -
Same la..But I normally bowl in the morning where its cheaper a bit..Originally posted by bowlingisfun:haha, no worries bro. me also jia lat. i always bowled at BB too. I played at CDAN. where do you normally bowl?
Maybe got saw u before because normally i will see the same face everytime i go there...If u notice a tall tall guy,most of the time bowl alone wan,ahhh thats me ..Yah maybe we can meet up and bowl together sometimes.PM liao
Anyway intro leh
Me first!!
Male/28/Malay/Tall/Thin/Married/Straight Average 140 
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I had been bowling for almost 15 yrs, only stop last yr due to very bad knee injury...Originally posted by bowlingisfun:Thanks for sharing Spook.
Actually I had several coaches in the past and when they saw me bowl, they would always ask me to change my style of bowling. Not to correct my mistake, but to totally change my style, which i feel that it shouldnt be the way.
I am a cranker and I cant help but feel that just because they do not know how to coach a cranker, they asked me to change to a style which they are comfortable in coaching; a stroker. The reason why i concluded this is because they would say things like that "your timing is late", "try not to bend your elbow" "you should not have an open shoulder"and blar blar blar ... Isnt those the trademarks of a cranker?
Just would like to have someone, who knows how to coach cranker, coach me.
I'm right hand 4 step approch hook bowler,
just my 2cent comment, actually cranker style is nt very suitable for Asian ( unless u r bigger in size, longer with powerful finger & oso with good arm strenght like those angmo ) if nt u will realise u always having problems wif ur approch & release timing, causes very in consistent in your bowl line.
mainly is becos u r unable to control or maintain ur arm swinging power due to u nd to crank before ur release..... -
Thanks for the comment babyhunter. In my opinion, being a cranker is not about size, rather its all about technique. I have seen alot of small to medium built crankers in Singapore. The reason why crankers plant their last step way before their swings come down (late timing) is to allow them to position their fingers below the ball so as to generate the high revs. In my humble opinion, the main reason why this technique of bowling is not encouraged here is because of the lack of coaches who really know how to coach a cranker.Originally posted by baby hunter:I had been bowling for almost 15 yrs, only stop last yr due to very bad knee injury...
I'm right hand 4 step approch hook bowler,
just my 2cent comment, actually cranker style is nt very suitable for Asian ( unless u r bigger in size, longer with powerful finger & oso with good arm strenght like those angmo ) if nt u will realise u always having problems wif ur approch & release timing, causes very in consistent in your bowl line.
mainly is becos u r unable to control or maintain ur arm swinging power due to u nd to crank before ur release..... -
If I'm not wrong......ppl only start practising cranking style in sg about...15 yrs bk. cos lt look really stylero when c those angmo play.Originally posted by bowlingisfun:Thanks for the comment babyhunter. In my opinion, being a cranker is not about size, rather its all about technique. I have seen alot of small to medium built crankers in Singapore. The reason why crankers plant their last step way before their swings come down (late timing) is to allow them to position their fingers below the ball so as to generate the high revs. In my humble opinion, the main reason why this technique of bowling is not encouraged here is because of the lack of coaches who really know how to coach a cranker.
but the prob is cranker mainly making use of the arm & finger strenght to push & lift the ball ( to increase the revolution & the speed of the ball) not by the arms swinging & the momentums of approch like those triditional hook bowler. that oso why u nd to plant ur last step way b4 the swings come down, & normally u will nt lock ur ellbow. ( again, purely by arms & fingers strenght to control the ball).
so...if u dun hv good arms & fingers strenght, once u get tired, u realise ur bowl line start to out & become very very inconsistant....
in my 15yrs of bowling exp...i hardly c any good cranker in sg wif very consistant score....
jus to share my view nia....
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I share similar view with babyhunter on the consistency part, so if someone is really really serious about adopting cranking as preferred style, he muz be wiling to work hard not only on the lanes, but oso his physical training.
But who will be that serious other than the Nat'l Bowlers? and have the time.
But if doing it for chllenging self abilities for being to able to bowl like a good cranker, be prepared to face with inconsistecy problems, many many High/Low games.
Whether you bowl in league or tournament, if too many H/L games, the entire game is already over before you find your line.
But I do not rule out the entertainment value of some good hellof cranking shots.
Last but not least, do take care of your body, excessive use of force on a regular basis may leads to long term injury on certain areas.
Happy Bowling -
Diah07 , Bowlingisfun... heeheee both of you count me IN >.<... i now no bowling kaki ... stop for 2 years to study den come back no one bowl le.... thats if you guys dont mind... and hopefully you guys can help me improve my game
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Cool. Maybe one of these days we could come out and bowl together.Originally posted by boredboredbored:Diah07 , Bowlingisfun... heeheee both of you count me IN >.<... i now no bowling kaki ... stop for 2 years to study den come back no one bowl le.... thats if you guys dont mind... and hopefully you guys can help me improve my game -
haha yea.. but i tink got generation gap ba.. im only 17.. damn noob
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hmm well.. train hard
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Hey there,
Was kindda bored and decided to look through your forum. I was particularly interested in this thread.
I agree that cranking may possibly not be suitable for the typical Asian's built. Besides the speed and rev factor, the lanes in this part of the world just may not always be best suited to this kind of style. Having said that, I know Aloysius personally and he isn't your typical Asian bowler.
I've been cranking it up recently in Perth, and have been strongly advised against it by my coach, Ken Thompson (ex- Team Australia head coach). According to him, and I agree, we just aren't built for that kind of speed and projection. Perhaps some of us physically could. But why generate so much unecessary energy. In the end, all you really need is to knock ten bloody pins down. Take Cara Honeychurch or Carol Gianotti both from Australia who by no means are any bigger than the average Singapore female bowler, yet they can beat us men hands down any day.
My opinion to anyone set on cranking; if u really want, learn it. But let it not be your main style. Master another 'safer' style which requires less exertion, yet gets the job done consistently. Remember: this game isn't about who's shot looks the best, or who's got more revs, nor is it about who can crank the ball out of one gutter into the other. Its about Consistency and accuracy. Get one thing done first before attempting something harder. Cranking can be useful, but not as often as efficient as the more conventional forms; stroking, power-stroking, etc. There are so many different kinds of releases and timings, all with their own pros and cons. Mastering at least one,and knowing how to use the others when required should keep us all busy for quite a while.
Hope this helps. Don't believe me? Ask Aloy.
All my best,
Nick Tan
USBC Bronze Level Coach,
WA State Junior Development Asst. Coach.
Ex-NTS
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