Not enough EVENTS in SG to garner more TALENTS?
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Its rather strange that with so many bowling facilities in SG, we barely sees reputable local tounaments. Why?
Lack of Sponsors?
Lack of Support?
What can be done?
Lets no mentioned about leagues, ok, just tournaments.
There are Fun Bowlings here and there, where you'll see the regular faces most of the time.
What about the youth, the nat'l squad, should there be more should tournments on a regular basis to expose them on competative grounds.
I would really love to see such tournament can be organised on regular basis, say monthly.
Look around our regions, so many new talents spawning, what about SG?
Time to play some catch up SG?
For the love of the game. -
There's the national league??Originally posted by Spook:What about the youth, the nat'l squad, should there be more should tournments on a regular basis to expose them on competative grounds.
I would really love to see such tournament can be organised on regular basis, say monthly. -
i think in singapore, the only main event is the Singapore International Open, that is where you can see the national bowlers and youth in action. Other than that, they do actively participative in bowling competitions, esp those held in malaysia, such as milo all star, or the malaysian international open which is stil ongoing now. you can refer to the following url:Originally posted by Spook:Its rather strange that with so many bowling facilities in SG, we barely sees reputable local tounaments. Why?
Lack of Sponsors?
Lack of Support?
What can be done?
Lets no mentioned about leagues, ok, just tournaments.
There are Fun Bowlings here and there, where you'll see the regular faces most of the time.
What about the youth, the nat'l squad, should there be more should tournments on a regular basis to expose them on competative grounds.
I would really love to see such tournament can be organised on regular basis, say monthly.
Look around our regions, so many new talents spawning, what about SG?
Time to play some catch up SG?
For the love of the game.
]http://www.singaporebowling.org.sg/
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There's a Chinese saying,
"Bu Shi Meng Long Bu Guo Jiang"
I meant, shouldn't our local bowlers established themselves locally first, gained more tournament exposures, constantly competing, weekly, monthly, than the top of the crops, especially those who's in better form and consistency get to go overseas to compete internationally?
That's why i say SG lacks Local Tornaments in our calendar to give our bowlers adequate exposures. With so many Bowling facilities, Bowler Centres
can take the lead to help organise more tournaments, good ones, not just for FUN, but with an objective and goal in mind, SBF can show their supoprt by sending the National's to participate. Corporate Sponsors can oso be invited to chip in their bits, by than our bowling scenes would be quite vibrant liao
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It can only be good for the sport & the country right?
Just my simple minded thoughts.
I may be wrong or being too idealistic
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actually i would also like to see more local competitions, where we can also invite the regions best to come to singapore to play instead of us always going over to their country...but you are right....sponser is a huge problem. But bowling is only starting to gain some significance in singapore in recent years, so i guess it takes more success stories to make sponsers willing to put in more money.Originally posted by Spook:There's a Chinese saying,
"Bu Shi Meng Long Bu Guo Jiang"
I meant, shouldn't our local bowlers established themselves locally first, gained more tournament exposures, constantly competing, weekly, monthly, than the top of the crops, especially those who's in better form and consistency get to go overseas to compete internationally?
That's why i say SG lacks Local Tornaments in our calendar to give our bowlers adequate exposures. With so many Bowling facilities, Bowler Centres
can take the lead to help organise more tournaments, good ones, not just for FUN, but with an objective and goal in mind, SBF can show their supoprt by sending the National's to participate. Corporate Sponsors can oso be invited to chip in their bits, by than our bowling scenes would be quite vibrant liao .
It can only be good for the sport & the country right?
Just my simple minded thoughts.
I may be wrong or being too idealistic
on the other hand, if u r just talking about local competitions with local bowlers, then it might be quite a one sided game.... the national and nation youth would be trashing even the very experienced veterans pretty often?? taht is wat i see it la...it is not a fair game if only for locals... and if it is not fair...then no one would wan to play... -
hi Spook,
i believed that experience wise, u've probably went thru more bowling leagues and events than many of us here.
do u feel that over the years, the standard of bowling has significantly gone up, as in league standard wise?
I seem to struggle more as the years go by...
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Hi Jae,
Dare not make that claim lah, me self learner, oso struggles most of the times(U donno oni), only occasionally bowl slightly better nia nia, oso donno why? that's why going around, hoping to Learn/Steal something new or effective tips, but to date, no quick fix leh
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Hence to me, bowling is a game that need constant practising, learning, observving, lsitening, analyzing, etc...................
It takes up much time and $$$ just to get alittle better.
If one day I kenna Toto above a million, I'll go fulltime
Many of us constantly are trying to find the perfect answers to our problems, many of us failed, why? simply becos we just can't have that kind of time & $$$.
Unless one is taking it very seriously and have Time & $$$$, i personally do not reccomend to invest too heavily on equipments hoping to improve his/her game, invest in taking a proper bowling lessons is the better bet and can yield better.
Otherwise just take it as an hobby, Enjoy the Game, bowl with friends and have good fun on the outing and gathering, and most importantly, hey we are contributing to the economy u know, we'll spend it elsewhere anyway
Another Ah Q philosophy of mine -
do u feel that over the years, the standard of bowling has significantly gone up, as in league standard wise?
haha, eh, Spook, u have not answer this part leh.... -
Q : do u feel that over the years, the standard of bowling has significantly gone up, as in league standard wise?
Not directly answer you but juz share my shallow opinions...
Yes, stabdard of bowling has gone up on the local level, but we are lagging behind our neighbouring countries, the SEA games speaks for itself.
Generally, on the local context, we do see more 300 games in the recent years, don't we?
In fact that are many Hidden Dragons Crouching Tigers here & there. Who've been able to perform at very high level consistently, too bad our Sporting scene does not allow them to bowling for a living.
If we are able to compute at national level, am quite confident that the % & numbers bowlers averaging 180 have increased also for those 190 - 220 range,
SBF should have those data. -
anyone bowling national masters challenge I here?
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I personally feel tat singapore bowling standard as in youth is not realli up to standard yet.
for example we see malaysia bowling tournaments (if u guys hav notice), they can bowl very high average in those qualifying rounds and also even in the finals. Some ppl might say maybe the lane conditions is right for them or wat.. but hardwork + intensive training is also factors that they can bowl well. to me i feel tat tats wat singapore bowling hav lag in.
Over the years malaysia bowling scene hav groom alot of talents like adrian ang who lost to jack wong in last year's singapore open stepladder final which he is only 17 years old and have score more perfect game than our local "Mr Perfect" jack wong. others still hav like aaron kong, issac russell and still got alot more.
One Most important factor is tat they can bowl consistently well in internatonal/local tournament and not juz one tournament. singapore bowlers juz cant do tat.. maybe they juz lag of exposure to tournaments and maybe time to change in their trg methods and they dun hav consistency.
take the juz ended National schs "b division" at SY. Which is the most high scoring division i would say compare to A division( which is JCs) and C division (lower sec). singapore sports sch won all the champions and overall champion for girls division. while the boys lost all the champion title to ACSI. girls division sss won we can see is becos all the talented girls bowlers are in sss, for sure there is no match for other schs. as for boys they shld hav all the talented youth bowlers some is even in national youth trg squad but they still cant win a single champion. maybe we can say the luck is not wif them tat time but if u see it urself u will see tat their shots is not as consistent as others and tat i believe shld hav cause them to lose.
We shld wait and see the upcoming tournament next week which is 9th asian sch bowling championship. see how's our singapore bowlers bowl then..
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i think singapore national bowlers may just not hav the right coach or right training yet, bowling well is all about reading the lane conditions and matching up to utilise the situation, so i guess it is not a good excuse to blame the lane at their level. i think a real top level coach would sure make a difference, as we do hav many very talented bowlers, not losing to malaysia. But all in all it depends on the budget of SBF la. Cos if you think abt it, bowling is a sports where size does not matter, so it is really all abt skills and knowledge, and skills and knowledge is wat coach is suppose to impart, so...it is ultimately...the coach.Originally posted by samchia:I personally feel tat singapore bowling standard as in youth is not realli up to standard yet.
for example we see malaysia bowling tournaments (if u guys hav notice), they can bowl very high average in those qualifying rounds and also even in the finals. Some ppl might say maybe the lane conditions is right for them or wat.. but hardwork + intensive training is also factors that they can bowl well. to me i feel tat tats wat singapore bowling hav lag in.
Over the years malaysia bowling scene hav groom alot of talents like adrian ang who lost to jack wong in last year's singapore open stepladder final which he is only 17 years old and have score more perfect game than our local "Mr Perfect" jack wong. others still hav like aaron kong, issac russell and still got alot more.
One Most important factor is tat they can bowl consistently well in internatonal/local tournament and not juz one tournament. singapore bowlers juz cant do tat.. maybe they juz lag of exposure to tournaments and maybe time to change in their trg methods and they dun hav consistency.
take the juz ended National schs "b division" at SY. Which is the most high scoring division i would say compare to A division( which is JCs) and C division (lower sec). singapore sports sch won all the champions and overall champion for girls division. while the boys lost all the champion title to ACSI. girls division sss won we can see is becos all the talented girls bowlers are in sss, for sure there is no match for other schs. as for boys they shld hav all the talented youth bowlers some is even in national youth trg squad but they still cant win a single champion. maybe we can say the luck is not wif them tat time but if u see it urself u will see tat their shots is not as consistent as others and tat i believe shld hav cause them to lose.
We shld wait and see the upcoming tournament next week which is 9th asian sch bowling championship. see how's our singapore bowlers bowl then.. -
I agree tat coach might be the problem.. but singapore used to have gd coach like pat henry but there is like no much different.. singapore bowlers in international level still dun bowl well. although there are some problems in the organising of team when pat henry left recently. singapore have the talents.. but i doubt is as much as our neighbouring country. i believe SBF hav got the budget only is the way they plan and spend the $. most importantly SBF shld send the youth bowlers overseas more often to get more international standard exposure..Originally posted by enginboi:i think singapore national bowlers may just not hav the right coach or right training yet, bowling well is all about reading the lane conditions and matching up to utilise the situation, so i guess it is not a good excuse to blame the lane at their level. i think a real top level coach would sure make a difference, as we do hav many very talented bowlers, not losing to malaysia. But all in all it depends on the budget of SBF la. Cos if you think abt it, bowling is a sports where size does not matter, so it is really all abt skills and knowledge, and skills and knowledge is wat coach is suppose to impart, so...it is ultimately...the coach.