NTU hostelites stay put to protest fee hike
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I got to stay in a 5 star condo, 33rd floor, with fantastic views of the city, and river.Originally posted by 798:they have to learn the hard way. i think sg students who studied in oversea nvr have any advantage when they were there. unlike Foreign students been treated like god here.
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interesting point. hmm so they need to charge so much?????Originally posted by oxford mushroom:The new charges are meant to recoup the full costs. If they are already subsidizing 50% on a single room charge of $350, that means the full cost of the room is $700. You can rent a condo apartment with 3 rooms for less than 2k, I am sure..
and i think alot of the "premium" facilities are like forced on them with no real practical usage for them. the reason they need lifts is cos they decided to increase the building heights?? -
i myself is also getting money worried everyday as i realise the gov is making citizens bear whatever the increase as the gov increase its wealth bank.
i think even $200 is damn expensive considering its a hostel for students. The new hostel is going to be there for 20 yrs. they should calculate returns based on 20 yrs on university grounds, and worse in jurong area.
i believe most students are of voting age, they should let their votes say on how the ruling gov policy on pay and pay.
Every thing will increase in multiples as the gov wants people to absorb cost so that they can have huge surplus and boost how good they are at handle nation wealth. The gov can be very rich if they subsidised less and make people pay and pay even more. Its called make the people bear the money problem. -
FOOLS.....i am ashamed dat the President is from MAE...utter disgrace...Originally posted by 798:yo, how do you see the hall 3 students on strike? do you think they will succeed?
actually i can forseen they lan-lan in the end. -
FT rules, its a fact we have to accept regardless we want to or like to. Its gonna stay dat way at least for the next decade or so.Originally posted by LazerLordz:it's just wrong wrong wrong, it's more than mere equality.It's pure pandering to the dollar, at the expense of quality students. -
I think this brings us to the same point robert has been harping on all the time...and I agree with him on this...it's double charging. Public institutions like NTU receive government funding through our taxes and it is not right to double charge by trying to recoup the full commercial costs of facilities.Originally posted by hisoka:interesting point. hmm so they need to charge so much?????
and i think alot of the "premium" facilities are like forced on them with no real practical usage for them. the reason they need lifts is cos they decided to increase the building heights??
Perhaps this is a preparatory step for the government to completely cut off all government funding and make the Unis run like private institutions. In which case, what is the government doing with the more than $10k of tax I pay each year?
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wow my weekly rent alreay costs the same as a month's rent in sg.Originally posted by LazerLordz:NTU hostelites stay put to protest fee hike
By Loh Chee Keong, TODAY
SINGAPORE: Scores of residents at Nanyang Technological University's Hall Three are refusing to move into its new premises until the fees are revised, said the hostel's president.
Last month, NTU announced its proposed fee hikes. There was strong resistance, especially from Hall Three residents. The increase for them is the highest as they will be moving into a new seven-storey building complete with "premium" features such as air-conditioners, lifts and electronic card access.
According to Hall Three's president Lim Joo Tian, 23, a third-year Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering student, some 640 residents were supposed to move over from the old hostel - which was built more than two decades ago - to the new Hall Three by the start of this month.
But as of Thursday, more than half had not done so, he said.
Today understands that the students want the university to reduce the proposed fee hike and to stagger it.
Mr Lim, who has not moved out from the old hostel himself, added: "We sent a proposal to the administration about one or two weeks ago and we are waiting for a reply. Initially, we were given a deadline to move out by Jan 3 ... we expect the situation to be resolved in about three weeks."
For their old hostel, Hall Three residents paid $160 per month for single rooms and $135 for double rooms. The fees will rise to $350 for single rooms and $240 for double rooms for the new premises.
However, for the first six months, residents will pay concessionary room rates of $240 and $180 for single and double rooms respectively.
According to NTU, all hostel fees are already subsidised by up to 50 per cent. Also, an Office of Financial Assistance was set up to help needy students.
In June last year, the residents were told by the administration that the new rates would fall between $175 and $190.
Mr Luke How, 24, a final-year Biological Sciences student who was the previous president of Hall Three, told Today that the residents want the raised fees to be nearer to those indicative rates. - TODAY
sg so small take bus take train drive car all still complain long? too good life liao is it.
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imagine some stay tampines, 8.30 lesson....6.30 must leave their house liao leh not all got cars loh...but i agree most locals stay halls when they dun really need to...but halls good mah...got gals etc etc...who dun wantOriginally posted by HENG@:wow my weekly rent alreay costs the same as a month's rent in sg.
sg so small take bus take train drive car all still complain long? too good life liao is it. -
The problem is the lecturers also think sg so small take bus take train drive car all still complain long.. then they set lectures at 8.30 or at 8 am even knowing full well that some living in pasir ris needs almost 2 hours to travel to schoolOriginally posted by HENG@:wow my weekly rent alreay costs the same as a month's rent in sg.
sg so small take bus take train drive car all still complain long? too good life liao is it. -
no choice....surely have some sway lessons ganna 8.30, u cannot tell people ur subject must always start at 10.30 one mah....bo bian....Originally posted by DriftingGuy:The problem is the lecturers also think sg so small take bus take train drive car all still complain long.. then they set lectures at 8.30 or at 8 am even knowing full well that some living in pasir ris needs almost 2 hours to travel to school -
It takes 1hr for a train to reach Dover from Pasir Ris.Originally posted by DriftingGuy:The problem is the lecturers also think sg so small take bus take train drive car all still complain long.. then they set lectures at 8.30 or at 8 am even knowing full well that some living in pasir ris needs almost 2 hours to travel to school -
u tell me stay changi, pasir ris, pulau ubin, study at NTU then i say maybe i can give u that point. but how many % stay there? rubbish la.Originally posted by chunyong:imagine some stay tampines, 8.30 lesson....6.30 must leave their house liao leh not all got cars loh...but i agree most locals stay halls when they dun really need to...but halls good mah...got gals etc etc...who dun want
then my uni the students live zone 5, 9am lesson need to leave house at 7 leh? also travel 2 hours in the london underground(more unfomfortable, somemore now winter very cold) they go and complain to who? -
ok loh so pasir ris can go stay hostel loh. who ask them stay pasir ris to begin withOriginally posted by DriftingGuy:The problem is the lecturers also think sg so small take bus take train drive car all still complain long.. then they set lectures at 8.30 or at 8 am even knowing full well that some living in pasir ris needs almost 2 hours to travel to school cheaper long term solution? move. -
policymakers have to be lobbied, and lobbied hard.Originally posted by chunyong:FT rules, its a fact we have to accept regardless we want to or like to. Its gonna stay dat way at least for the next decade or so.
there's not enough interest groups in Singapore. -
One more thing is how long they are going to be studying at ntu/nus. If they're going to chase thier phd and become academic staff there, give them that. How many actually prepare to ta pao for more than 4 years?
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Why don't you go form one?Originally posted by LazerLordz:policymakers have to be lobbied, and lobbied hard.
there's not enough interest groups in Singapore. -
singaporeans. like lambs led meekly to slaughter.Originally posted by LazerLordz:policymakers have to be lobbied, and lobbied hard.
there's not enough interest groups in Singapore. -
Ahem...well...Originally posted by 798:yo, how do you see the hall 3 students on strike? do you think they will succeed?
actually i can forseen they lan-lan in the end.
In the end some big-shot will intervene la -
there are groups but all in Whitney there...if u know wat i saying...Originally posted by LazerLordz:policymakers have to be lobbied, and lobbied hard.
there's not enough interest groups in Singapore. -
Who?Originally posted by deathscythe99:Ahem...well...
In the end some big-shot will intervene la
LazerLords? -
I know what you are saying.The alternative is the slow death of this nation's competitiveness, because the miasmic influence of one pillar is overpowering even supposedly macro-issues to be so micro-managed..Originally posted by chunyong:there are groups but all in Whitney there...if u know wat i saying...
Haiz.I don't know what to say.It's either Republic or nothing, isn't it.But even that seems so wrong these days.
Now you see why so many have just upped and flipped the bird..and rather propagate what it really meant to be a Singaporean, abroad.The pride is much greater there. -
Originally posted by charlize:Who?
LazerLords?
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no la. send u better. u head lamb.Originally posted by charlize:Who?
LazerLords? -
Bo bian...just like a lawnmower moving across...if u stick ur head up, u get chopped...so best is stay among the general 'length' so the blade just misses u...can the grass affect the lawnmower ? Yes, maybe it just jams the blade up which is unlikely but even so the owner can just change the blade and viola...the mowing goes on...unless u can affect the man operating the machine...else...bo bian....lan lanOriginally posted by LazerLordz:I know what you are saying.The alternative is the slow death of this nation's competitiveness, because the miasmic influence of one pillar is overpowering even supposedly macro-issues to be so micro-managed..
Haiz.I don't know what to say.It's either Republic or nothing, isn't it.But even that seems so wrong these days.
Now you see why so many have just upped and flipped the bird..and rather propagate what it really meant to be a Singaporean, abroad.The pride is much greater there. -
Send me for fcuk.Originally posted by HENG@:no la. send u better. u head lamb.
I'm not the one studying at ntu.
And complaining.