Giant Jellyfish threaten to 'dominate' oceans
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Nomura, Nemopilema nomurai (Giant jellyfish)
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
Nomura, Nemopilema nomurai (Giant jellyfish)
feel like vomitting
once i swam at the seashore got one deflated jellyfish KANASAI !!
i scared until like siao and i swim back to the shore like a mad person u know
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Originally posted by Bangulzai:
feel like vomitting
once i swam at the seashore got one deflated jellyfish KANASAI !!
i scared until like siao and i swim back to the shore like a mad person u know
But I like to eat Wenzhou jellyfish with sesame oil and chili. Yum.
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
But I like to eat Wenzhou jellyfish with sesame oil and chili. Yum.
it's always part of 冷盘 right?
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Originally posted by Bangulzai:
it's always part of 冷盘 right?
Yalor, can buy packet ready ones in Yuhua. Few flavours, all shiok shiok.
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
Yalor, can buy packet ready ones in Yuhua. Few flavours, all shiok shiok.
i won't buy. nobody in my family likes
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Originally posted by Bangulzai:
i won't buy. nobody in my family likes
Wish my cats eat them but they oso don't like.
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
Wish my cats eat them but they oso don't like.
don't like good mah. encourage you to save up the money to buy these kind of expensive stuffs. i rather wish my cats start to eat vegetables.
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Originally posted by Bangulzai:
don't like good mah. encourage you to save up the money to buy these kind of expensive stuffs. i rather wish my cats start to eat vegetables.
Bo lah, not ex lah, but about only a few dollars a reasonable size packet.
Cats also need to eat vegs some times.
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
Bo lah, not ex lah, but about only a few dollars a reasonable size packet.
Cats also need to eat vegs some times.
oh not expensive arh, i got that impression cos it served in restaurants
cats oni go nibble at some grass oni when it's time to churn the hairball out, hardly a cat can stay without meat
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Originally posted by Bangulzai:
oh not expensive arh, i got that impression cos it served in restaurants
cats oni go nibble at some grass oni when it's time to churn the hairball out, hardly a cat can stay without meat
I give veg to the cats every month at least 2 to 3 times every month to help them with the hair balls.
Chopped the vegs and mixed with the meat and fish so they have no choice.
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
I give veg to the cats every month at least 2 to 3 times every month to help them with the hair balls.
Chopped the vegs and mixed with the meat and fish so they have no choice.
correct, that's the way. it is said in my cat book, if u dun wan add veg, u can add a little liquid paraffin to the food. or give a occasional dose of oily fish to clear it's system
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Originally posted by Bangulzai:
correct, that's the way. it is said in my cat book, if u dun wan add veg, u can add a little liquid paraffin to the food. or give a occasional dose of oily fish to clear it's system
The cats don't like paraffins. You have to force feed and they will run and hide away next time you bring out the bottle. If you trick them, they get upset and I don't like that.
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
The cats don't like paraffins. You have to force feed and they will run and hide away next time you bring out the bottle. If you trick them, they get upset and I don't like that.
was dat wat u tried wif liquid paraffin and the outcome? or u guess they will?
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Originally posted by Bangulzai:
was dat wat u tried wif liquid paraffin and the outcome? or u guess they will?
Tried. Didn't work out.
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
Tried. Didn't work out.
so can you say the cat book was wrong or it just did not work out just for your cats
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Originally posted by Bangulzai:
so can you say the cat book was wrong or it just did not work out just for your cats
Can't be sure who's right. Some time the magic work, some time the magic don't.
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
Can't be sure who's right. Some time the magic work, some time the magic don't.
for me the chopped veg method is acceptable
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Originally posted by Bangulzai:
for me the chopped veg method is acceptable
yup esp my fussy one like only french beans finely chopped.
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haha...topic change to cat care liao...jellyfish no more...
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Originally posted by Jianye:
haha...topic change to cat care liao...jellyfish no more...
Well... when the Chew and Bang are together, cats always come into the picture no matter what topics are discussed.
Meow~
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Antivenoms Can't Stop Deadly Jellyfish Sting
Anna Salleh, ABC Science Online
Deadly StingerJune 15, 2009 -- A long-used box jellyfish antivenom is unlikely to actually save lives, suggests new Australian research. And one expert says findings like this mean we need to improve our testing of antivenom effectiveness.
A team publishing online in the journal Toxicology Letters say venom from the box jellyfish acts so rapidly that any antivenom is unlikely to be protective.
"The box jellyfish is by far the most lethal organism in the world," says clinical toxicologist Geoff Isbister of Menzies School of Health Research in Darwin.
He says a sting from a box jellyfish is like "millions of hyperdermic injections of venom" and can cause cardiac arrest and death.
Isbister says there has long been a question mark over the clinical effectiveness of CSL's antivenom for the Australian box jellyfish, Chironex fleckeri, which has been used since the 1970s.
"There's never been a case where someone could say that antivenom saved a life," said Isbister.
He says people given the antivenom have still died, and others have survived with resuscitation, even without the antivenom.
Isbister and colleagues found that when CSL antivenom was mixed with venom and injected into the rat, all the toxins in the venom were bound, and the rat did not die.
But, says Isbister, in real life, people are exposed to the venom first, before the antivenom.
To mimic this situation, the researchers administered the venom first, and found the rat died within 30 seconds to 2 minutes.
"The rats died so quickly you couldn't even give them the antivenom fast enough," said Isbister.
They even found that when they gave the antivenom first, it did not protect against the venom.
Isbister says the findings suggest the antivenom was unlikely to be effective.
"Ultimately in the real setting, even giving antivenom after they've been stung is probably not going to work," said Isbister.
Isbister said other studies are finding similar limitations with other antivenoms.
He says his own research suggests antivenom is ineffective in relieving the pain of redback spider bite. As a result, he and colleagues have started an NHMRC-funded placebo-randomised controlled trial of redback antivenom.
Other research on snake antivenom shows it does not help stop bleeding, says Isbister.
He says one reason it is important to make sure antivenom is effective in patients is to ensure the benefits outweigh the risks. "Antivenom is not risk free. It can cause anaphylaxis and allergic reactions," said Isbister.
CSL says it needs more time to analyze the new research.
"We are always interested to see papers like this and we take account of their findings," a company spokesperson said. "However," they added, "we cannot make conclusions about what should happen in a clinical setting as a result."
"The clinical management of box jellyfish envenomation is highly dependent on the circumstances, for example remoteness of the incident, and is a matter for the treating doctor to decide."
The ultimate evidence that box jellyfish antivenom is ineffective in patients would come from a placebo-controlled randomized controlled trial, in which some patients are given antivenom, and some aren't.
But, given the deadly nature of box jellyfish venom, Isbister says this would be regarded as unethical.
Isbister says he has been criticized by some who believe his negative comments about antivenoms are threatening antivenom research and production. But he emphasizes that some antivenom is really important, such as that which protects against the neurotoxic effects of taipan bite.
He would like more realistic tests to be carried out in the research and development of antivenoms.
"You can't assume that's something is going to be effective even if it binds the toxins," said Isbister.
Box jellyfish kill around one person in Australia every 2 to 3 years, mainly children. For now, prevention is the best cure.
"Don't let children swim when there's jellyfish around," Isbister said.
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The box jellyfish is one of the deadliest animal in the world after human.
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Box Jellyfish Chironex fleckeri
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Irukandji jellyfish Carukia barnesi another highly venomous jellyfish.