Formula 1
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Iveco: That was Austria.
A better race than Oz IMO, with the greater tyre wear and more aggressive driving in general. Shame about the tyre deflation Kimi suffered. -
i missed most of it as i was at work, rushed back.. watched the last bits..
how did Kimi's tyre shred?
wizard piece of driving by Alonso.. i think he and Trulli almost died from heatstroke as they could not even stand up at the podium
drink! Massa.. DRINK!!
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It happened without warning a lap or two after his first pitstop, the right rear tyre blew, he was in the gravel at turn 5 and he kimped back to the pits.
I bet the haze and the heat played a part in the demise of the Honda engines...looks like Button's oil leak wasn't solved effectively after all. -
get yr facts right la. That was austria. at indy rubens stole a win back from MS.Originally posted by iveco:I doubt Rubens has forgotten the time he was ordered to pull over and let Schumi pip him for the No 1 spot in Indianapolis. -
u do notice everything japanese in the BAR team was laid low by the sepang heat.Originally posted by Kuali Baba:It happened without warning a lap or two after his first pitstop, the right rear tyre blew, he was in the gravel at turn 5 and he kimped back to the pits.
I bet the haze and the heat played a part in the demise of the Honda engines...looks like Button's oil leak wasn't solved effectively after all. -
here's something i just posted up in another site. lists some of the highlights of the raceOriginally posted by the Bear:i missed most of it as i was at work, rushed back.. watched the last bits..
how did Kimi's tyre shred?
wizard piece of driving by Alonso.. i think he and Trulli almost died from heatstroke as they could not even stand up at the podium
drink! Massa.. DRINK!!
Oh it was another exciting race! Alonso led almost the whole race. In a way, it was a lights to flag victory, with nobody else ever looking like they were threatening his lead the whole race. Trulli put in a wonderful performance to give Toyota their 1st ever podium finish, although it remains to be seen if the pace of Toyota would hold throughout the year. With Ralf Schumacher finishing in 5th, Toyota has jumped to 2nd in the constructor's championship. A magnificent 3rd place for Nick, who drove some exciting and awesome stints during the race, when he, teammate Mark and Ralf diced for 4th place.
In one of the exciting moments of the race, Mark Webber of Williams caught a twitchy Giancarlo Fisichella in 3rd place who was fighting with unwanted oversteer. Fisi was finding it hard to commit in the corners, thus allowing Mark, Ralf and Nick in that order to come up behind him. Mark then tried to overtake around turns 13 and 14, but was too far back to make it work. This put him slightly out of shape exiting turn 14, which gave Ralf a shot down the inside of the back straight into turn 15. Ralf locked up slightly and the 2 of them touched in turn 15, but were otherwise unscathed. This allowed Nick back in 6th to catch up with both of them and have a go at his team mate out of Turn 15 and down the main straight. Mark got the better of Nick into turn 1 and as they fought a recovered Ralf sneaked down the inside of turn 1 and was side by side with Nick into turn 2, but ultimately conceded the place. What an incredible piece of driving from all 3 men.
In another exciting moment, Mark and Nick, having recovered from the earlier excitement, set about hunting Fisi down again, who'd gained a brief respite when the 2 Williams diced with the Toyota. Once again Mark got the better of Fisi somewhere between Turns 11 to 14, and Nick was looking for a gap when Fisi ran down the inside of Mark as they blasted down the back straight. Fisi dived into turn 15, Mark went around the outside and put the squeeze on him as they entered turn 15. Fisi being on the dirty side of the track, was unable to brake and locked up into a 4 wheel drift. Mark suddenly realised that he wasn't leaving Fisi enough space and started to go wide but it was too late. They touched and Mark started sliding, b4 Fisi collected him, and then bounced right over the front of the Williams when the rear wheels of the Renault slammed into the front wheels of Mark's car. Pieces shattered off Fisi's Renault as it slammed back onto the ground, as Mark's Williams lay in the grass off turn 15 with both front suspensions broken. A gleeful Nick then slipped past to take 3rd.
Kimi was one of the people who drove excellently today, but was rewarded with no points after a right rear puncture on his outlap after his 1st pitstop put paid to his chances of a podium. At that point he was running 3rd, having started 6th with a much heavier fuel load. There is no doubt, that had the right rear not blown, the McLaren would have easily passed the problematic Renault of Fisichella for 3rd. Kimi nursed the stricken McLaren back to pits for a new right rear and rejoined in 14th, where he fought back up to 9th, less than 2 seconds behind the 7th and 8th place finishers. Meanwhile Montoya started from 11th and somehow sneaked his way up to finish 4th, helped along the way by a good fuel strategy and a few moments of inspired driving. Perhaps if he had qualified higher, a podium might have been on the cards, but there is no hiding the fact that Kimi thus far retains the upper hand where pace is concerned.
David Coulthard finished 6th for Red Bull Racing, while Klien brought the other RBR car home in 8th. Yet another double points finish for the team, who are currently lying in a surprise 3rd in the constructor's table. This is growing to be one of my favored teams. I was cheering when David overtook Michael in his Ferrari. Michael finished in a lowly 7th, and looked lacklustre the whole weekend. His points position finish was largely due to the misfortunes that befell several of the front runners. Had Fisi and Mark not had their accident, and Kimi's tyre did not blow, MS would have finished 10th. As it is, his teammate Rubens didn't finish the race at all, retiring 7 laps from the end with excessive tyre blistering. Seems the Bridgestones are crap again this year.
Bringing up the rear of the finishers were the Saubers of Massa, the Jordans of Karthikeyan and Monteiro and the Minardi of Christijan Albers. An observation: Karthikeyan finished the race a whole lap ahead of his teammate. I do believe he has significantly outpaced his teammate considering they were both in the same machinery. And Friesacher in Minardi also outpaced his teammate Albers by over a second a lap. Thus it was a real pity he slid off on Button's oil.
AH YES. BAR. dual engine failures 3 laps into the race. Jenson's Honda engine let gol, spewing its oil everywhere on the racing line. Anthony Davidson who was sub-ing for a feverish Takuma Sato had a more dramatic failure, with his engine bursting into flames. Seems ironic considering the fact that BAR was the only team to exploit the loophole in the rules to allow them to skirt around the "2 weekend engine" rule. Anyways it seems that everything in the team that is Japanese was laid low by the Sepang heat, from the driver to the engine... LOL. Poor Anthony, a chance to shine squandered.
Finally. Jacques... the 97 world champion. Spent most of the race driving behind MS and finally had a spin at turn 1 and retired b4 he had run half the race. It does seem funny, that the only 2 former world champions on the grid all performed terribly the whole afternoon. It would seem that the balance of power in F1 is finally shifting. -
And the Toyotas kept going on and on...the only things that looked in danger of going were the French tyres.Originally posted by HENG@:u do notice everything japanese in the BAR team was laid low by the sepang heat. -
i daresay the japanese tyres fared worse. rubens had to retire because of it.Originally posted by Kuali Baba:And the Toyotas kept going on and on...the only things that looked in danger of going were the French tyres. -
i was wondering if the tyres would shred near the end of the race, the last couple of laps.. you could see a distressing line around the tyres where the overinflation of the tyres due to the heat was causing uneven wear...
and that line seemed to move as the cars did their turns..
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poor BAR. 1st, their jap driver got a fever. then their jap engines blew.
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especially when mark, nick n ralf were dicing.Originally posted by the Bear:i was wondering if the tyres would shred near the end of the race, the last couple of laps.. you could see a distressing line around the tyres where the overinflation of the tyres due to the heat was causing uneven wear...
and that line seemed to move as the cars did their turns..
heart-stopping stuff huh?
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The blistering on the Toyotas' tyres was also apparent during the winter testing, where they also discovered a lack of aerodynamic grip. At least they seem to have fixed the latter issue.
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Kimi Raikkonen's race was effectively over when a tyre valve failure on the outlap following his first pitstop caused the right rear tyre to fail and forced him back into the pits.
Raikkonen commented, "A disappointing end to a race, which looked quite promising immediately after my first stop where I had gained two positions to take fourth. However early on during my outlap a tyre valve failure caused a puncture to the right rear, and I was forced to go almost a full lap in order to get back to the pits. My times during the race showed that I was able to go at the same speed as the leaders. I got past Felipe Massa and closed the gap to Christian Klien and Michael Schumacher, but when I got there it was too late for an attack."
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Championship Standings
16 Alonso
10 Fisichella
8 Trulli, Barrichello, Montoya, Coulthard
6 Heidfeld
4 R Schumacher, Webber
3 Klien
2 M Schumacher
1 Räikkönen
26 Renault
12 Toyota
11 Red Bull Racing-Cosworth
10 Ferrari, Williams-BMW
9 McLaren-Mercedes
0 Sauber-Petronas, BAR-Honda, Jordan-Toyota, Minardi -
I'm back from the F1 itself!
Truly outstanding atmosphere, though the haze brought the temperature up slightly, with the track temp at ard 51 deg c ard the starting time...
Great day, great finish by Alonso, I must say
In fact, for the 1st 10 laps, he had already managed to lap the Minardi and Jordans. Excellent driving indeed.
The first turn was already astounding Saw 2 cars spin out there, which was real disappointing, esp. for Jacques
I do believe, a Minardi (if I aint wrong) spun out on the very first turn from the start. Yeap
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i'm thinking, if i got no ICT next year, i may wanna go to either the Melbourne one or the Sepang one
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Lemme know sia....we organise one up?Originally posted by the Bear:i'm thinking, if i got no ICT next year, i may wanna go to either the Melbourne one or the Sepang one -
Friesacher spun off on Button's oil. And I don't think it was the 1st corner, because I remember everyone getting thru the 1st corner from the start, and Button's engine only let go on lap 3Originally posted by deathscythe99:I'm back from the F1 itself!
Truly outstanding atmosphere, though the haze brought the temperature up slightly, with the track temp at ard 51 deg c ard the starting time...
Great day, great finish by Alonso, I must say In fact, for the 1st 10 laps, he had already managed to lap the Minardi and Jordans. Excellent driving indeed.
The first turn was already astounding Saw 2 cars spin out there, which was real disappointing, esp. for Jacques
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Oh, sorry.Originally posted by HENG@:get yr facts right la. That was austria. at indy rubens stole a win back from MS.
But both incidents came to the attention of the FIA, and there was a ban on team orders thereafter. Still, it did not stop Ferrari from becoming another big yawn the next season. -
It's the Turn 1. I'm sorry. but yeap, not the 1st corner. However, i think i saw Anthony Davidson's BAR-Honda spin on the 2nd lap tho.Originally posted by HENG@:Friesacher spun off on Button's oil. And I don't think it was the 1st corner, because I remember everyone getting thru the 1st corner from the start, and Button's engine only let go on lap 3 -
Originally posted by deathscythe99:It's the Turn 1. I'm sorry. but yeap, not the 1st corner. However, i think i saw Button's BAR-Honda spin on the 2nd lap tho.
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Welcome back! Did you also catch the argy-bargy between Button and Räikkönen on lap 2, and Ralf and the Williamses on lap 32?
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I definitely caught the argy-bargy sia. It happened right in front of me. Saw Button spin slightly, I thought it was due to some oil leak, next you know, a Minardi spun outOriginally posted by Kuali Baba:Welcome back! Did you also catch the argy-bargy between Button and Räikkönen on lap 2, and Ralf and the Williamses on lap 32?
And how are your ears?
As for the Ralf and Williamses, saw it over the live feed as well as at my side, but mine is turn 1 so....
But I did catch the part where the Williamses tried to out-do each other at Turn 1 & 2
My ears are fine, 'cept the first part mwhahaha. -
The first corner is not so bad, I was in the K1 stand in 2000. But when you're seated in a section where the drivers are on full throttle...
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Originally posted by Kuali Baba:The first corner is not so bad, I was in the K1 stand in 2000. But when you're seated in a section where the drivers are on full throttle...
K1 stand lor....so I think I wanna sit there next time.
For the straights (start/finish) it costs about RM1100 i think.