Anyone tried UberX pte car?
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Wonder if anyone from this forum has tried or is currently an UberX driver. Not Ubertaxi.
Just want to know if this is a viable biz for SG market. Are there enough calls to make a living?
I am currently doing Ubertaxi and can get 4-5 calls during evening peak. Morning peak not sure but think about the same. Also doing other apps and street hails so maybe this is not an accurate indication of demand from Ubertaxi.
Would appreciate any info on UberX if you know anyone doing it. Thanks.
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UberX can only take bookings. Taxi can pick n go anywhere. UberX requires either u get a rental car with commercial insurance, or u transfer yr car to a business and change to commercial insurance from private.
Take note some rental companies have cars on private insurance, which is not legal. I know because I saw before.
Yr costs is not cheap and is on par with a normal taxi. This route is for people who lost their taxi license. Stick with the taxi and forget about uber.
Lastly yr taxi comes with free nets and credit card machine. Uber pax can only pay by credit card through uber. No more 'keep the change', and collecting $100 instead of $10 from drunk paxes. Also no more collecting $1000 instead of $50 from foreigners who are colour blind....
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Ya lah. Sometimes also collect sticky notes
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Ok, thanks.
Done some research and it is really not worth it.
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Yesterday saw an aunty just came out from uber office, she went to enquire abt uberX
She said many of her colleagues do uberX, reason being : its better to get stuck in the jam and get paid for it when she go home then getting nothing
. She's a working aunty with a car.She mention many of her insurance and property agent friends doing uberX too, and get many postiive feedback. They do it when they are free and , since they already have a car, better generate some income with it then let it depreciate away.
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Uber company was originally formed with the reasons i stated above,
Ubertaxi was implemented to appease the wrath of taxi drivers, cos many car owners are taking away a big part of income from real taxi drivers
If you havn't notice , ubertaxi's cash incentives are getting lesser and lessor by the week, one day, when there are no more incentives, many taxi drivers may quit ubertaxi (some of my freinds have quit using ubertaxi now) and that time those ubertaxi passenger will switch to uberX as they are used to uber platform , and then uberX drivers will huat big time
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Ubernisation is here to stay, that it the trend, UberX..X meaning executive, most car rental companies hv commerical insurance, so they rent to people to do UberX and at the same time, these people can use it for themselves to go to work and also for their family, with UberX, they will be able to cover the cost of the rental and earn some profit. And especially in a high cost of Car ownership in Singapore, many peoples opts for this route, no need to buy road tax, insurance or paid high COE, even servicing and maintenence is done by the rental company, why not. There is another group of driver who drive company's Car, mostly are marketing and sales people, as company's car, it buy commerical insurance and an open market COE, ie Cat E category. These people will do for UberX due to their flexibility of time and mostly on weekend. And to add more salt, as these people are from marketing and sales, their skills of serving customers (paxs) and communciation is good, so many paxs will go back to book them. In my view, what hit most from UberX in near future is not we, the normal taxis driver, it will be more on limo drivers, both pte and companies, might get less booking due to UberX.
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Originally posted by f1taxidriver:
UberX can only take bookings. Taxi can pick n go anywhere. UberX requires either u get a rental car with commercial insurance, or u transfer yr car to a business and change to commercial insurance from private.
Take note some rental companies have cars on private insurance, which is not legal. I know because I saw before.
Yr costs is not cheap and is on par with a normal taxi. This route is for people who lost their taxi license. Stick with the taxi and forget about uber.
Lastly yr taxi comes with free nets and credit card machine. Uber pax can only pay by credit card through uber. No more 'keep the change', and collecting $100 instead of $10 from drunk paxes. Also no more collecting $1000 instead of $50 from foreigners who are colour blind....
Yes, but also no fare cheats. And it is very fast, no need to waste time counting money and waiting for the nets and credit card trans to go through.
I am doing ubertaxi and it is also like that. Only thing is payment is delayed for 3 business days, sometimes longer due to cockups. As long as they pay on time most of the time, I will continue to use Ubertaxi. Sometimes can save you from ulu places like CCK, Yishun, etc,
UberX is a big risk if you don't already own car. If you rent, your earnings go to the rental company (you are supposed to be an employee, another risk factor, if found out by LTA). The rental company will then pay you after Uber pays them!
So looks like Ubertaxi, Grabtaxi and CDG for me for now :)
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Originally posted by luckycabby:
Yes, but also no fare cheats. And it is very fast, no need to waste time counting money and waiting for the nets and credit card trans to go through.
I am doing ubertaxi and it is also like that. Only thing is payment is delayed for 3 business days, sometimes longer due to cockups. As long as they pay on time most of the time, I will continue to use Ubertaxi. Sometimes can save you from ulu places like CCK, Yishun, etc,
UberX is a big risk if you don't already own car. If you rent, your earnings go to the rental company (you are supposed to be an employee, another risk factor, if found out by LTA). The rental company will then pay you after Uber pays them!
So looks like Ubertaxi, Grabtaxi and CDG for me for now :)
ubertaxi is a double-edge sword, it can save you from ulu places, it can also throw you to ulu places
yes, due to unforseen circurmstances, payment delay, incentives delay, wrong calculations, blah blah blah, but some how or rather after many days, they always found out their mistakes and got it right
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I think to rent a car and do this Über thingy is just crazy, rental coy must pay rental in advance, than everyday wait for durian to drop like crazy, don't make sense....
If using own car, comprehensive insurance can be double or even triple of normal insurance, can say maybe only small percentage of private owner will "need" to earn this so call extra income.....
Ex TD, injured TD, medical reason TD, is the main bulk of people will try go for it, don't need to ply the road every min and second....
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Originally posted by Keepthechange666:
I think to rent a car and do this Ãœber thingy is just crazy, rental coy must pay rental in advance, than everyday wait for durian to drop like crazy, don't make sense....
If using own car, comprehensive insurance can be double or even triple of normal insurance, can say maybe only small percentage of private owner will "need" to earn this so call extra income.....
Ex TD, injured TD, medical reason TD, is the main bulk of people will try go for it, don't need to ply the road every min and second....
insurance from pre car convert to commercial. Example mine $1,200 then commercial insurance from NC is $2,200.w/o NCD. -
Originally posted by Keepthechange666:
I think to rent a car and do this Ãœber thingy is just crazy, rental coy must pay rental in advance, than everyday wait for durian to drop like crazy, don't make sense....
If using own car, comprehensive insurance can be double or even triple of normal insurance, can say maybe only small percentage of private owner will "need" to earn this so call extra income.....
Ex TD, injured TD, medical reason TD, is the main bulk of people will try go for it, don't need to ply the road every min and second....
Renting a Car for own usage and at the same time do UberX is good. He might be working that need a car, today company provide an allowance for car only, so by using that allowances, he rent a car instead of buying for his works, his family outing and shopping, then on weekends or some nights, he can bids for UberX job. -
Originally posted by Varadero:
insurance from pre car convert to commercial. Example mine $1,200 then commercial insurance from NC is $2,200.w/o NCD.What is $1000 compare to paying the vehicle/taxi rental (approx $100 - $130) everyday?
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Originally posted by Keepthechange666:
I think to rent a car and do this Über thingy is just crazy, rental coy must pay rental in advance, than everyday wait for durian to drop like crazy, don't make sense....
If using own car, comprehensive insurance can be double or even triple of normal insurance, can say maybe only small percentage of private owner will "need" to earn this so call extra income.....
Ex TD, injured TD, medical reason TD, is the main bulk of people will try go for it, don't need to ply the road every min and second....
if rent a car, pay in advance to earn money is crazy. Rent a car also can for private use. If you can't afford or dont need to anymore, then stop renting. If you want to change type of car also car.
Then, own a car, which need to pay much more money in advance and dont know whether can earn back the money is even more crazy. Own a car, if you cannot afford or dont need to anymore, sell and lose money. Want to change car also can, lose money again.
So rent or own a car is more crazy??????
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Originally posted by bowah:
In my view, what hit most from UberX in near future is not we, the normal taxis driver, it will be more on limo drivers, both pte and companies, might get less booking due to UberX.
Uber X is exactly the as booking a taxi. With smart phone apps, booking become simple and easy and pax can track the location of the taxi. If Uber X rates is competitive (No airport/location/CBD,midnight/ booking surcharge), pax will use this option than taxi.Uber X is taking the share of taxi booking and taxi trip especially when there is surcharge apply.
Each Uber X trip, Uber will take 20% instead of normal taxi booking of $0.30 or $0.40. Will Uber want to waste time with Uber taxi?
Imagine 1000 Uber X car, each avg income $200 per day, Uber income is $40k per day or $1.2 Mil per mth. No investment, just be a middle man. Isnt this good money? Good money, more play will come in. In fact, Grab taxi is working on their cashless payment. Once it is accepted and popular with pax, grab car will be the next to compete with Uber X.
1000 Uber X car is only less than 4% of the taxi population. $200 a day is the minimum income a TD to cover the rental, diesel and minimum earning.
Uber is giving incentive to Uber taxi to let pax familiarize to their apps and improve their supply their vehicles avaialble.
If Uber X is to stay, it means that now booking taxi service is available without the need for taxi licence and TDVL licence. What is the value of these licences? What is the authority for? Isnt it clear who is going to be affected?
If the situtation not going to manage well, a foreign company which has no direct investment in the taxi industry is going to change the taxi game in Singapore in the near future.
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Originally posted by bowah:
Renting a Car for own usage and at the same time do UberX is good. He might be working that need a car, today company provide an allowance for car only, so by using that allowances, he rent a car instead of buying for his works, his family outing and shopping, then on weekends or some nights, he can bids for UberX job.
The cost to own a car is too high that it is not affordable to normal people. Renting a car for own usage and at the same time to do UberX help normal people to has a car for their own use. -
Originally posted by bowah :
In my view, what hit most from UberX in near future is not we, the normal taxis driver, it will be more on limo drivers, both pte and companies, might get less booking due to UberX.
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Uber X is exactly the same as booking a taxi. With smart phone apps, booking become simple and easy and pax can track the location of the taxi. If Uber X rates is competitive (No airport/location/CBD,midnight/ booking surcharge), pax will use this option than taxi.Uber X is taking the share of taxi booking and taxi trip especially when there is surcharge apply.
Each Uber X trip, Uber will take 20% instead of normal taxi booking of $0.30 or $0.40. Will Uber want to waste time with Uber taxi?
Imagine 1000 Uber X car, each avg income $200 per day, Uber income is $40k per day or $1.2 Mil per mth. No investment, just be a middle man. Isnt this good money? Good money, more play will come in. In fact, Grab taxi is working on their cashless payment. Once it is accepted and popular with pax, grab car will be the next to compete with Uber X.
1000 Uber X car is only less than 4% of the taxi population. $200 a day is the minimum income a TD to cover the rental, diesel and minimum earning.
Uber is giving incentive to Uber taxi to let pax familiarize to their apps and improve their supply their vehicles avaialble. But Uber will push for the Uber X simply it is their cash cow.
If Uber X is to stay, it means that now booking taxi service is available without the need for taxi licence and TDVL licence. What is the value of these licences? No need TDVL, it means PR and foreigners can become TD? Only Singaporean can be TD, No more true. What is the authority for? Isnt it clear who is going to be affected?
If the situtation not going to manage well, a foreign company which has no direct investment in the taxi industry is going to change the taxi game in Singapore in the near future.
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Originally posted by peterpan212:
Uber X is exactly the as booking a taxi. With smart phone apps, booking become simple and easy and pax can track the location of the taxi. If Uber X rates is competitive (No airport/location/CBD,midnight/ booking surcharge), pax will use this option than taxi.Uber X is taking the share of taxi booking and taxi trip especially when there is surcharge apply.
Each Uber X trip, Uber will take 20% instead of normal taxi booking of $0.30 or $0.40. Will Uber want to waste time with Uber taxi?
Imagine 1000 Uber X car, each avg income $200 per day, Uber income is $40k per day or $1.2 Mil per mth. No investment, just be a middle man. Isnt this good money? Good money, more play will come in. In fact, Grab taxi is working on their cashless payment. Once it is accepted and popular with pax, grab car will be the next to compete with Uber X.
1000 Uber X car is only less than 4% of the taxi population. $200 a day is the minimum income a TD to cover the rental, diesel and minimum earning.
Uber is giving incentive to Uber taxi to let pax familiarize to their apps and improve their supply their vehicles avaialble.
If Uber X is to stay, it means that now booking taxi service is available without the need for taxi licence and TDVL licence. What is the value of these licences? What is the authority for? Isnt it clear who is going to be affected?
If the situtation not going to manage well, a foreign company which has no direct investment in the taxi industry is going to change the taxi game in Singapore in the near future.
Agree with most of what you say. While UberX is a money spinner for Uber, the drivers aren't earning much. So they will end up with lots of part time drivers rather than full time taxi driver types.
If LTA does not tighthen more, UberX may eventually kill off the traditional taxi biz model. May or may not because UberX also comes with the scary "surge pricing" which many pax are not willing to risk.
So there could be a camp of loyal taxi pax who will stick to the taxi service - either street hail or booking - because they trust the meter (implicitly LTA & traffic police who govern this).
Maybe a segmented market will emerge but cannot discount the negative effect from UberX for the taxi industry.
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Must get your own car? What if one day they pack n go. dun lah. ...just rent on shift .... sibei ho tan already. ... nett $30 everyday
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The car must be registered in a company's name with "Z10" insurance coverage before can be use for Uber services.
Car under personal name CANNOT be use for Uber services.That is correct. Basically, you must have a private hire (chaffeur) insurance (Z10) and have a limousine company. The troublesome part is the insurance, have to convert and have to pay a lot more for it.
I have my own car, but I rent another for Uber
Took my first uberx last week. The driver said they have to get a commercial license and most of them prefer to use a rental car to avoid accumulating too much mileage on their personal cars. Anyhow it was a pretty good experience as the car was clean & i cldnt get a cab before trying uberx in desperation. Fare was similar to cab as it was peak hrI usually take uber taxi during non peak hrs and uberx when there is surge charge like peak hr/midnight
Uberx is cheaper compare to uber taxi when there is surge charge..I also doing some deliveries for Car Pal (carpal.me). I take 1-2 trip before work during morning peak hours 2 hours or so, and 3-4 hours after work also peak. Everyday at least 5 trips, weekends 8 trips at least but usually more. Profit minus rental, fuel, is at least $50 during weekdays. $50-$100+ for weekends.
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Long time never post here, most can't understand what I mean liao....
What I'm referring is for those TD who want to turn Über drivers, pardon me hor.....
So if paying taxi rental can be daily, why go rent a car and pay advance? Depending on what kind of contract we have sign with the car leasing coy, most also request a credit card holding sum and advance for up to month if we rent long term basis.....
2nd point, if we are a car owner, sorry for putting in bluntly, if we don't need this kind of extra income, what for go convert to different insurance? Than go do pick up? Most of my friends surrounding me say crazy, even for me, also think is crazy, unless my main core of job is in transportation lor.....
Last point still valid.....
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UberX is a waste of time to me. If I were to convert my car to commercial insurance, I rather run a car rental business. I wont describe more because will picha lobang.
But of course if UbeX works out for you, pls carry on. Impt thing is to be happy and to believe in what u r doing.
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Aiya, whatever it is, all are out to make profits, apps, taxis companies, Uber or any other form of public transport are there to make profits, and we are the labourer of it, passenger aka consumer are the paid master. So, like it or not, be it Uber X or Z, they are all here to stay, to churn whatever business and profit they can take, all at the expense of Singapore drivers and cars, be it you are the TD or pte drivers. To know more, best is to join and understand it, but make sure you sign with your eyes open. There are pros and cons in every ways, no one will startup a business that put partnership in difficulties, otherwise, their business would had closed shop. So, in the meantime, I and my Ah fool will continue to grab, press and Q (suntec IT shows).
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Looks like this Uber car thing could make bigger waves. Right now Uberx alone simply does not have the volume. But if their model works & more coys like GT jump in with their own version like Grabcar, then maybe TDs like us can jump in. The reason is by then we wont be depending solely on Uber n the booking vol might be enough to make a good living.
Wait & see first....
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Originally posted by Keepthechange666:
Long time never post here, most can't understand what I mean liao....
What I'm referring is for those TD who want to turn Über drivers, pardon me hor.....
So if paying taxi rental can be daily, why go rent a car and pay advance? Depending on what kind of contract we have sign with the car leasing coy, most also request a credit card holding sum and advance for up to month if we rent long term basis.....
2nd point, if we are a car owner, sorry for putting in bluntly, if we don't need this kind of extra income, what for go convert to different insurance? Than go do pick up? Most of my friends surrounding me say crazy, even for me, also think is crazy, unless my main core of job is in transportation lor.....
Last point still valid.....
So if paying taxi rental can be daily, why go rent a car and pay advance?
Taxi rental >$100 per day.
Uber car rental >$55 per day.
Depend on how much u want to pay and the way u plan to use the vehice, there is another option for u to rental a car and make some income to help u to pay for the car.
Paying deposit/cash avdance and minimum term is common , it apply to all rent items/services not only for car rental.
if we are a car owner, sorry for putting in bluntly, if we don't need this kind of extra income, Most of my friends surrounding me say crazy
this apply to the rich that can own car without any financial difficult.
Many people on the ground do not belong to the rich but still wish to have a car his personal use.
Your statement sound like, PMET be TD, must be crazy......
When you understand the real situation happen to the PMET/people want to own a car; then you will not say crazy.