Club 30's "Kill the Boredom Demon" Jive Pad 140th Edition

• LOTUSfairy

  15 Jul 10, 10:22

  acid..i am coming suntec later . 

• the Bear

  15 Jul 10, 10:23

  friend said this:

  buy flat - CPF gone
  renovate flat - savings gone
  buy furniture - credit gone
  so.. how to have children?

  

• LOTUSfairy

  15 Jul 10, 10:25

  got married - freedom gone...

   

  (well, some of my friends said that..)  and that shouldnt be the case lah..

• av98m

  15 Jul 10, 10:25

  Originally posted by the Bear:

  friend said this:

  buy flat - CPF gone
  renovate flat - savings gone
  buy furniture - credit gone
  so.. how to have children?

  

  given the direction the country is headed and the changes they made to the medical classifications for national servicemen, we'd probably be doing our unborn children a huge favour by not having them at all 

• av98m

  15 Jul 10, 10:26

  Originally posted by LOTUSfairy:

  got married - freedom gone...

   

  (well, some of my friends said that..)  and that shouldnt be the case lah..

  freedom gone is only when you marry the wrong woman 

• LOTUSfairy

  15 Jul 10, 10:29

  Originally posted by av98m:

  freedom gone is only when you marry the wrong woman 

  
   true true...

  it's pretty pathetic but it's true..

• av98m

  15 Jul 10, 10:30

  someone was just commenting to me another day, when you marry a person, you're really marrying their entire extended family.

  so the important thing is, no matter how nice the person is, if their family and relatives are bloody psychos, you'd better look for someone else 

  and this is especially true for women. too many women have ended up with nasty in-laws and husbands too weak to stand up to their own parents.  

• ^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~

  15 Jul 10, 10:38

  tskkk...?

  I'm having serious dejavu over here...

  It's like I'm remember seeing all this then posting this reply...

   

   

   

  But I dun remember that I'll be going on a rampage in kiseki later  

  and LF... coming to suntec for?

• Fatum

  15 Jul 10, 10:40

  Originally posted by av98m:

  COV only benefits speculators.

  And HDB flats are supposed to be PUBLIC HOUSING ! pua cb. 

  well ... the alternative would be the goverment let you go tikam and the one sized flat you get would be your lot till you die or upgrade to private housing ?

  and I don't think COVs are a speculator's thing, since you can only own one HDB at a time, and must live in it for 5 years before flipping it. And remember, during the property market doldrums, people's gripes were, ironically, about the low prices then.

  Imagine you're a 5 room flat owner right now, who bought your place years ago, and reared your children there, now that your children's grown up and fled the nest, you decide to cash out and flip the flat for a smaller unit that's easier to clean and use the money to travel around the world. And the market falls out from beneath your feet because premiums are outlawed, or prices are artificially capped, what happens ?

  like I said, public housing in singapore has to operate within the free market context because they constitute 80% of the housing supply. Looking at the public tenements and micro condos of hong kong, I'm convinced that things would be a lot worse if the HDB weren't around.

  Mind you, I'm not saying this only cos I got my BTO and am happy; I was pretty impressed when I went through my CEHA and agents training and have to plough through what the HDB have done. Every other clause was "Singapore Citizens only". Could they have done a better job in the past couple of years managing the property market ? yes they could have. Are they doing something about it, within the context of the free market ? yes they are. Could it have been worse otherwise ? Absolutely.

   

• LOTUSfairy

  15 Jul 10, 10:41

  Originally posted by av98m:

  someone was just commenting to me another day, when you marry a person, you're really marrying their entire extended family.

  so the important thing is, no matter how nice the person is, if their family and relatives are bloody psychos, you'd better look for someone else 

  
  no wonder some of my lady friends just refused to move into the in-laws big houses.  but they analysised, should the parents in law "died", they would secured themselves the house & $ (when the house is sold eventually) (if the husband has only 1 or 2 siblings, even better, bigger pie)..

  .. so they need not marrying the entire extended family, but they are making sure that they hit the right jackpot, thus security future $assets, of course they might say goodbye to their hushand later, only when the money secured..... they called it the long term plan ... this is one wrong woman huh....??

  this was applied to FT ladies who eagerly got married here too..

• LOTUSfairy

  15 Jul 10, 10:45

  Originally posted by ^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~:

  tskkk...?

  I'm having serious dejavu over here...

  It's like I'm remember seeing all this then posting this reply...

   

   

   

  But I dun remember that I'll be going on a rampage in kiseki later  

  and LF... coming to suntec for?

  
  garden festival ..take pictures :)

  bring me go eat?

• Fatum

  15 Jul 10, 10:45

  well .... my folks wanted fatumnette to move in with us after we get hitched ....

  but I don't think it's a really good idea ... 

  one kitchen can have only one woman ....

• LOTUSfairy

  15 Jul 10, 10:51

  thinking of it... now we be pissed when pple asking for 50K.

  probably we bought the flat and next time COV has to be 80K and above (market all practicing like that) .. pple will be pissed with us liao...

  or worse, 5 years down the road, COV is not able to practice, we cannot claim $ when we sell our flats, so are we going to blame pple up there for disabling the practice and we cannot earn money anymore..?

• ^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~

  15 Jul 10, 10:53

  Originally posted by LOTUSfairy:

  
  garden festival ..take pictures :)

  bring me go eat?

  
  I'll be eating with my team wor... so not possible unless u tell me earlier >__>

  btw, wat garden festival?

• LOTUSfairy

  15 Jul 10, 10:55

  Originally posted by Fatum:

  well .... my folks wanted fatumnette to move in with us after we get hitched ....

  but I don't think it's a really good idea ... 

  one kitchen can have only one woman ....

  
  true leh.. my mom always knocked my head when i cook..

  she said, even the place is cleaned up, she felt her kitchen invaded..

  but...

  mom and dad love the food and ate all the food i cooked ...

  and always, i washed up every spot in the kitchen and even more .. they went watch tv after that and act blur.....song song huh..

• LOTUSfairy

  15 Jul 10, 10:59

  Originally posted by ^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~:

  
  I'll be eating with my team wor... so not possible unless u tell me earlier >__>

  btw, wat garden festival?

  
  tea break lah, i got a lady photo kakis with me :)

  garden festival at the suntec expo hall...

  http://www.singaporegardenfestival.com/

   

  i spent about 8 hours there 2 years ago..!

• av98m

  15 Jul 10, 10:59

  Originally posted by LOTUSfairy:

  
  no wonder some of my lady friends just refused to move into the in-laws big houses.  but they analysised, should the parents in law "died", they would secured themselves the house & $ (when the house is sold eventually) (if the husband has only 1 or 2 siblings, even better, bigger pie)..

  .. so they need not marrying the entire extended family, but they are making sure that they hit the right jackpot, thus security future $assets, of course they might say goodbye to their hushand later, only when the money secured..... they called it the long term plan ... this is one wrong woman huh....??

  this was applied to FT ladies who eagerly got married here too..

  certainly sounds like the wrong kind of woman sia o.o

• LOTUSfairy

  15 Jul 10, 11:03

  Originally posted by av98m:

  certainly sounds like the wrong kind of woman sia o.o

  
  that why it always say, women is good with their numbers..

  i hear them say that, i went  "do they really love their boyfriend/husband"??? what is marriage nowsaday?

• ^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~

  15 Jul 10, 11:03

  Originally posted by LOTUSfairy:

  
  tea break lah, i got a lady photo kakis with me :)

  garden festival at the suntec expo hall...

  http://www.singaporegardenfestival.com/

   

  i spent about 8 hours there 2 years ago..!

  
  tea break sounds good

  short short okay la... not too long... Ytd my tea break I went to eat beef pho  

• cassie

  15 Jul 10, 11:05

  Originally posted by Fatum:

  well .... my folks wanted fatumnette to move in with us after we get hitched ....

  but I don't think it's a really good idea ... 

  one kitchen can have only one woman ....

  
  that's true...unless she wants to stay/hide in your room 20 hours a day

  my sis commented "i'm not moving in with your mother even if she has a pool in the house" (my sis loves swimming)

• LOTUSfairy

  15 Jul 10, 11:07

  my circle of friends kindda of strange one lor.

  tis guy i know, his wife divorced him,...saying character not suitable.. he married his wife after being dumped by his ex-gf.

  he still pay for mainenance to his ex-wife, who is now happily with her ex-boyfriend (which she wanted to be in the 1st place).  he called himself "the sucker"... sad but yes, true..

• av98m

  15 Jul 10, 11:08

  Originally posted by Fatum:

  well ... the alternative would be the goverment let you go tikam and the one sized flat you get would be your lot till you die or upgrade to private housing ?

  and I don't think COVs are a speculator's thing, since you can only own one HDB at a time, and must live in it for 5 years before flipping it. And remember, during the property market doldrums, people's gripes were, ironically, about the low prices then.

  Imagine you're a 5 room flat owner right now, who bought your place years ago, and reared your children there, now that your children's grown up and fled the nest, you decide to cash out and flip the flat for a smaller unit that's easier to clean and use the money to travel around the world. And the market falls out from beneath your feet because premiums are outlawed, or prices are artificially capped, what happens ?

  like I said, public housing in singapore has to operate within the free market context because they constitute 80% of the housing supply. Looking at the public tenements and micro condos of hong kong, I'm convinced that things would be a lot worse if the HDB weren't around.

  Mind you, I'm not saying this only cos I got my BTO and am happy; I was pretty impressed when I went through my CEHA and agents training and have to plough through what the HDB have done. Every other clause was "Singapore Citizens only". Could they have done a better job in the past couple of years managing the property market ? yes they could have. Are they doing something about it, within the context of the free market ? yes they are. Could it have been worse otherwise ? Absolutely.

   

  If I didn't have to buy my place at a highly inflated price with COVs in the first place, this wouldn't even be an issue. You're essentially saying that bad practices need to continue because they've already started a negative spiral with regards to profit making and nobody wants to lose out. 

• LOTUSfairy

  15 Jul 10, 11:08

  Originally posted by ^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~:

  
  tea break sounds good

  short short okay la... not too long... Ytd my tea break I went to eat beef pho  

  
  what time is your tea break? me and friend reach only 1300hr.. and leaves Suntec at 1730hr..  we can have short tea break between that :)

• LOTUSfairy

  15 Jul 10, 11:09

  Originally posted by av98m:

  If I didn't have to buy my place at a highly inflated price with COVs in the first place, this wouldn't even be an issue. You're essentially saying that bad practices need to continue because they've already started a negative spiral with regards to profit making and nobody wants to lose out. 

  
  pple would say, they need the COV for renovating the next place they arestaying..

  some of them need the COV for urgent matters.. so they have to sell their flats, especially if it is good location.

• Fatum

  15 Jul 10, 11:09

  Originally posted by cassie:

  
  that's true...unless she wants to stay/hide in your room 20 hours a day

  my sis commented "i'm not moving in with your mother even if she has a pool in the house" (my sis loves swimming)

  it'll only be a temporary measure regardless, till our new flat comes. 

  But I really enjoy her place though. when you wake up in the morning and the sun is rising over the sea and the breeze is picking up .....

  marine parade is really the best HDB estate in singapore.