What happens immediately after you die?
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read the tibetan book of life and death many many years ago, but have forgotten much about it. anyone?
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is there such a thing, as when you are about to die, you relive your life moments all over again, is this true?
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black out.
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I read that when you are to die, even if you are suffering a lot of pain due to cancer or injuries, you will feel no pain, because the body is releasing morphins. is it true?
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true or not the guy will be dead soon also.
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but the crux of the matter is, what happens when the person is dead.
to buddhists, the last thought moment is very important. if you die unhappy or sad or angry, you will be reborn in a unhappy realm in your next life if you believe in rebirth.
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Death Process in Buddhism
By Loden Jinpa
http://lodenjinpa.com/death-process-in-buddhism/
DEATH AND DYING IN THE TIBETAN BUDDHIST TRADITION
http://www.buddhanet.net/deathtib.htm
Compiled by: Ven. Pende HawterDeath begins with the sequential dissolution of the winds associated with the four elements (earth, water, fire and air). "Earth" refers to the hard factors of the body such as bone, and the dissolution of the wind associated with it means that that wind is no longer capable of serving as a mount or basis for consciousness. As a consequence of its dissolution, the capacity of the wind associated with "water" (the fluid factors of the body) to act as a mount for consciousness becomes more manifest. The ceasing of this capacity in one element and its greater manifestation in another is called "dissolution" - it is not, therefore, a case of gross earth dissolving into water.
Simultaneously with the dissolution of the earth element, four other factors dissolve (see Chart 1), accompanied by external signs (generally visible to others) and an internal sign (the inner experience of the dying person). The same is repeated in serial order for the other three elements (see Charts 2-4), with corresponding external and internal signs.
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Upon the inception of the fifth cycle the mind begins to dissolve, in the sense that coarser types cease and subtler minds become manifest. First, conceptuality ceases, dissolving into a mind of white appearance. This subtler mind, to which only a vacuity filled by white light appears, is free from coarse conceptuality. It, in turn, dissolves into a heightened mind of red appearance, which then dissolves into a mind of black appearance. At this point all that appears is a vacuity filled by blackness, during which the person eventually becomes unconscious. In time this is cleared away, leaving a totally clear emptiness (the mind of clear light) free from the white, red and black appearances (see Chart 5). This is the final vision of death.
This description of the various internal visions correlates closely with the literature on the near-death experience. People who have had a near-death experience often describe moving from darkness (for example a black tunnel) towards a brilliant, peaceful, loving light. A comprehensive study comparing death and near-death experiences of Tibetans and Euro-Americans has shown many similarities between the two (Carr, 1993). Care must be taken though in such comparisons because the near-death experience is not actual death, that is, the consciousness permanently leaving the body.
Since the outer breath ceased some time before (in the fourth cycle), from this point of view the point of actual death is related not to the cessation of the outer breath but to the appearance of the mind of clear light. A person can remain in this state of lucid vacuity for up to three days, after which (if the body has not been ravaged by illness) the external sign of drops of red or white liquid emerging from the nose and sexual organ occur, indicating the departure of consciousness.
Other signs of the consciousness leaving the body are 1) when all heat has left the area of the heart centre (in the centre of the chest), 2) the body starts to smell or decompose, 3) a subtle awareness that the consciousness has left and the body has become like 'an empty shell', 4) a slumping of the body in a practitioner who has been sitting in meditation after the stopping of the breath. Buddhists generally prefer that the body not be removed for disposal before one or more of these signs occur, because until then the consciousness is still in the body and any violent handling of it may disturb the end processes of death. A Buddhist monk or nun or friend should ideally be called in before the body is moved in order for the appropriate prayers and procedures to be carried out.
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Your soul relive again, but your Buddha nature remains constant at bliss. Until your soul is "computerised" to the wholesome one, you will be undergoing affliction of devouring by Tyrannosaurus rex and sweating in pain, although it is just in a dream - due to attachment of form and non form.
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No point discussing abt this topic...coz the only way to know the answer is you die urself...then after that we try to revive you...if we successfully revive u, you tell us how the other side looks like....if not u can stay dead....lololol
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Mmmm...... your family members will start calling casket company for your funeral preparation.......
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Originally posted by maxsee:
No point discussing abt this topic...coz the only way to know the answer is you die urself...then after that we try to revive you...if we successfully revive u, you tell us how the other side looks like....if not u can stay dead....lololol
Most entertaining comment, but it actually goes much further than that.
The process of death as described in the Tibetan Book of Death is actually very interesting as it basically describe what physically and mentally happens to a person during his dying moments. It is also used as a form of meditation. At its highest stage, an accomplished meditator would be able to do it in his sleep. This is so that during his dying moments, he is able to guide his own consciousness to wherever he wishes to be reborn.
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There is no one standard answer for everyone. It really depends on how that person has led his entire life, that results in what he is thinking of during his final moments. Many people are so afraid of death and their afterlife, and are totally filled with fear in their final moments because of the terrible things they did, yet others feel so blissful and are so ready to move on.
Most people fall in between, and simply feel sadness to leave their loved ones, as they don't want to die yet, again resulting in a form of fear of death. Very often, regrets will be felt, as people feel they have not done everything that they have wanted to, when they were well and alive.
Rainbow Jigsaw of Life
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Originally posted by Aik TC:
At its highest stage, an accomplished meditator would be able to do it in his sleep. This is so that during his dying moments, he is able to guide his own consciousness to wherever he wishes to be reborn.
on the other side of the story, ordinary person can also "wishes" where to go, however their wish are much deluded.there are 2 things that guide a person's next rebirth. one is karma 业力 and one is their wandering will or "wish" 愿力. for example what make a person want to be a doctor. it's their wanting or "vow" and that will guide them to that direction. so if a person keep thinking of becoming a monk, then one day they will become a monk. or if two person will themself to get together forever, then next life they will become together. this willing of the mind can be pretty powerful. and it's either if the vow/will is for good or for bad.
the chinese word æ„¿ is not easily to translate in english. :p
more is explain by Ven Jing Jie in chinese:-
http://www.pureland.com.sg/avlibrary.html
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Originally posted by sinweiy:
on the other side of the story, ordinary person can also "wishes" where to go, however their wish are much deluded.there are 2 things that guide a person's next rebirth. one is karma 业力 and one is their wandering will or "wish" 愿力. for example what make a person want to be a doctor. it's their wanting or "vow" and that will guide them to that direction. so if a person keep thinking of becoming a monk, then one day they will become a monk. or if two person will themself to get together forever, then next life they will become together. this willing of the mind can be pretty powerful. and it's either if the vow/will is for good or for bad.
the chinese word æ„¿ is not easily to translate in english. :p
more is explain by Ven Jing Jie in chinese:-
http://www.pureland.com.sg/avlibrary.html
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愿 or 怨
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Originally posted by Ä«Õß:¸ïÀë:
愿 or 怨
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Depends on what your belief lor....maybe go to Amitabha buddha land or rebirth into the six realms lor....
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
I read that when you are to die, even if you are suffering a lot of pain due to cancer or injuries, you will feel no pain, because the body is releasing morphins. is it true?
-what happen after immediIn case ManUre idiots, they release a lot of shit!
Anyway, u die i suppose u "dive" straight to hell? Not sure which level or even if there one.ately after you die?- -
Originally posted by My cock is too BIG!:
Rooney9 did you see that.... BIG, unless it is shown in front of you or you experience it yourself. Likewise, wait till your last moment and keep the world inform please. Lest you believe in "My cock is too BIG" or "My fowl is too lovely" and experience on it thereon.
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Originally posted by sinweiy:
on the other side of the story, ordinary person can also "wishes" where to go, however their wish are much deluded.there are 2 things that guide a person's next rebirth. one is karma 业力 and one is their wandering will or "wish" 愿力. for example what make a person want to be a doctor. it's their wanting or "vow" and that will guide them to that direction. so if a person keep thinking of becoming a monk, then one day they will become a monk. or if two person will themself to get together forever, then next life they will become together. this willing of the mind can be pretty powerful. and it's either if the vow/will is for good or for bad.
the chinese word æ„¿ is not easily to translate in english. :p
more is explain by Ven Jing Jie in chinese:-
http://www.pureland.com.sg/avlibrary.html
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So if one wishes to go to pureland and keeps reciting the buddha's name, make vows and dedicate merits or virtues to go, they will be reborn there?
By the way, I heard that it is helpful to visualise Amitabha Buddha often. Is that true?
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Originally posted by Beautiful951:
So if one wishes to go to pureland and keeps reciting the buddha's name, make vows and dedicate merits or virtues to go, they will be reborn there?
By the way, I heard that it is helpful to visualise Amitabha Buddha often. Is that true?
yes, helpful. it's the conviction of the mind that's very powerful. no matter what, don't have any bit of doubt that u cannot be reborn in pureland. like a tree leaning to the west, when the tree die and fall, it'll only fall to the west.got time listen...
to Ven Jing Jie in chinese explain:-
http://www.pureland.com.sg/avlibrary.html
i like the recently 2010 ones. more and more profound and in depth in term of practice.
Strongly believe and stand in the stand point where u are originally free from wandering thoughts to destroy wandering thoughts.
Strongly believe and stand in the stand point where u are originally free from karma to destroy karma. it'll be much easier this way rather than stand in the stand point where u think u are full of karma and affliction.
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