Originally posted by Weychin:Consciousness of God is part of the common definition of the mystic’s experience, but the only valid experience of this nature for the Christian is that which is allowed according to Scripture. "The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children" (Romans 8:16). Most modern mystical experiences suggest either things that don't really have much substance (make no meaningful contribution to the understanding of corporeal life) or things that would appear to challenge Evangelical Bible doctrine, which invalidates the experience.
If I am my father's son,born of him, a fact being a fact,that I am of him, inheritance bestowed by virtue of being his son, irregardless of whether belief or disbelief .
Chim and complex. But nvm I am going offline soon.
Originally posted by -StarDust-:
huh? wad u meant?
God is in you, speak forth with the tongue of god!
Originally posted by Weychin:God is in you, speak forth with the tongue of god!
Speaks in tongues? I got that spiritual gift just recently. Happy seh !!!
The closest biblical account that an unbeliever might conclude was a mystical experience might be the Apostle Paul's Damascus Road experience (Acts 22:1-21) or the experience he described in 2 Corinthians: "I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. And I know that this man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows—was caught up to paradise. He heard inexpressible things, things that man is not permitted to tell" (2 Corinthians 12:2-4).
As we examine this account from a Christian perspective, however, we notice particularly that Paul makes it clear God would not allow him to give the details of that experience. Thus it would hardly be reasonable for us to believe that God would be willing to divulge spiritual truth by the manner in which mystics seem to flaunt their experiences. It is His will to declare spiritual truth through the Apostles of the Church by the vehicle of the Holy Scriptures. "Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth" (John 17:17). "My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message" (John 17:20). God said, “my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge” (Hosea 4:6), not from lack of a mystical experience.
Assertion of truth does not equate assertion of proof !
You claim you verify!
what's that? you became a medium?
Originally posted by -StarDust-:
Speaks in tongues? I got that spiritual gift just recently. Happy seh !!!
what's that , u became a medium?
Originally posted by wisdomeye:what's that , u became a medium?
I am not a medium
It is a spiritual gift from God.
Some christians can speak in tongues but not all.
i see, sounds like medium... i thought you meant a spirit entered you and spoke through you. That's not a good thing, u know.
Originally posted by wisdomeye:i see, sounds like medium... i thought you meant a spirit entered you and spoke through you. That's not a good thing, u know.
Very common: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpT3rq46c1I
Skip to 1:30.
This video still cracks me up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3CzptgIvcU&feature=related
Originally posted by wisdomeye:i see, sounds like medium... i thought you meant a spirit entered you and spoke through you. That's not a good thing, u know.
Yah "suaning" me.
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:This video still cracks me up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3CzptgIvcU&feature=related
My church one wont dance one. Not all churches do that. Our church not so crazy.We speak in tongues one good thing is the demon dont understand it.
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:This video still cracks me up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3CzptgIvcU&feature=related
My church nt like this. U think all the singapore churches is like that?
We speak in tongues when standing.
Originally posted by -StarDust-:It would be best not to use the phrase before abraham,I am.
That's from the bible.
Jesus said before abraham I am.
Nowadays many buddhist/spirituality writer like to quote from bible.
I have buddhist relatives who quoted If you know the tuth the truth will set u free.
He told me Jesus is a zen master. His dharma centre also like to quote from the bible.
Why cant you just use the buddhist phrases and stop quoting from the bible.
Is it because in the west, there's many people familiar with the bible that's why you quoted from the bible? Using bible phrases to share with westerners?
Now I know many dharma centre like to quote from bible even Singapore dharma centre.
Just use your own buddhist sentence or phrases lah.
Funny leh,using bible to quote from and taking it out of context.
There was one who said those who lived by the sword died by the sword, you reap wad u sow is karma teachings.
My buddhsit relative said bible have dharma in it.
My relative dharma centre expert in quoting bible from the dharma centre. They even proclaim Jesus to be Pusa which some dharma centre do in the west.
This is so insulting to us christian,quoting from our book and changing Jesus from messiah to a Pusa.
brudder, got your history mixed up liao ah ?
the Jesus man-made fairytale is 500 years later than Buddha's time leh...............
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
brudder, got your history mixed up liao ah ?
the Jesus man-made fairytale is 500 years later than Buddha's time leh...............
I am only against buddhist quoting from our bible. This is really rude.
In the west they like to do this.God will judge them when they died.
Originally posted by -StarDust-:
I am only against buddhist quoting from our bible. This is really rude.In the west they like to do this.God will judge them when they died.
Humans have waited for the judgement day for more than 2000 years.
I think there is nothing wrong with quoting from the bible. Aren't many Christians also make use of Buddhists' philosophy and find them very useful. We Buddhists don't feel offended at all when Christians find something in common with Buddhists. I find your reaction very strange.
Originally posted by -StarDust-:
I am only against buddhist quoting from our bible. This is really rude.In the west they like to do this.God will judge them when they died.
Preaching Christianity to Buddhists is even more rude. You do not respect others' religion.
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:Preaching Christianity to Buddhists is even more rude. You do not respect others' religion.
Do street evangelism got ask the guy can I share with one one. If he say no we wont share.
We dun force convert.
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:Humans have waited for the judgement day for more than 2000 years.
I think there is nothing wrong with quoting from the bible. Aren't many Christians also make use of Buddhists' philosophy and find them very useful. We Buddhists don't feel offended at all when Christians find something in common with Buddhists. I find your reaction very strange.
There's nothing wrong with waiting for the return of Jesus.
The problem is that those are not christians anymore.
Christians who make use of buddhism philosophy are nt christians anymore.
Really. In the west many such ppl I know.
If you wanna quote so do. I cant stop u.
Originally posted by -StarDust-:
I am only against buddhist quoting from our bible. This is really rude.In the west they like to do this.God will judge them when they died.
Did you ever listen to what others' words ?!! Whose ruder ?!! Your opinions and words drown out others' words!!!
You talk but but not ready to listen and ignore rationality!!!Because it seems like the only source of "truth" and "facts" you can understand and accept!