Actually, most people(80%) around my age(20+) are not keen in spiritual cultivation.
Fame, Fortune and Family are important. Spiritual cultivation can wait until later part of of our life then start practising.
Originally posted by SoulDivine:Actually, most people(80%) around my age(20+) are not keen in spiritual cultivation.
Fame, Fortune and Family are important. Spiritual cultivation can wait until later part of of our life then start practising.
thats usually the case.
it will take a significant event in life to trigger a switch in perspectives.
anyway no one ever knows when is really our 'later part of life'. it could be now.
Originally posted by SoulDivine:Actually, most people(80%) around my age(20+) are not keen in spiritual cultivation.
Fame, Fortune and Family are important. Spiritual cultivation can wait until later part of of our life then start practising.
Actually, all people (excluding teens I know from my dharma center) at my age (20) are not keen in spiritual cultivation.
Originally posted by SoulDivine:Actually, most people(80%) around my age(20+) are not keen in spiritual cultivation.
Fame, Fortune and Family are important. Spiritual cultivation can wait until later part of of our life then start practising.
Can do all the above at the same time. I don't see any conflicts. Last time I used to say I have no time, till I see that death can occur to anyone and anytime. Just like a monk said, death is not going to ask you whether you are free to go or are you ready to go.
There is a Chinese saying, coffin is not for the old, it is for the dead. 棺æ��ä¸�是装è€�人的,它是装æ»äººçš„。Sound scary but it is true.
Originally posted by SoulDivine:Actually, most people(80%) around my age(20+) are not keen in spiritual cultivation.
Fame, Fortune and Family are important. Spiritual cultivation can wait until later part of of our life then start practising.
Fame - i see famous people getting harrassed and losing their privacy.
Fortune - i see rich people worry about losing their wealth.
When we were young, we think we are going to live forever..
We maybe more inclined to "fun" and get caught up with fashion, games etc just like our peers.
But all these are like "dreams"...
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Don't wait till you are old to cultivate, the lonely graves are full of young people.
人生如梦一场空, everything like what isis say are like dreams and illusions. When you die, fame fortune and family are nothing, you can bring none of these along. Last night you may dream you got became the richest person on earth, or became famous, etc. but after you woke up this morning "Oh! It's just a dream! It's not real!"
I think there is nothing wrong with Fame, Fortune and Family (3F). I don't think that Buddhism is not against such pursue especially in layperson life. However, what Buddha taught was not to be too attached to 3F as it our existence is for this sole purpose with a gain or loss mentality. We are bless with the 3F is due to our past good karma. The difference between us and Bodhisattva is the latter always give with a joyful and thankful heart.
Hence I would like to encourage everybody with Nichiren 3 treasures quote:
"It is rare to be born a human being. The number of those endowed with human life is as small as the amount of earth one can place on a fingernail. Life as a human being is hard to sustain— as hard as it is for the dew to remain on the grass. ...................More valuable than treasures in a storehouse are the treasures of the body, and the treasures of the heart are the most valuable of all. From the time you read this letter on, strive to accumulate the treasures of the heart!"
Storehouse=external material benefits such as money, house, car etc
Body=health, beauty etc
Heart=your Buddhist practice, character and the way we related to our environment
Gassho
Namu Myo Ho Renge Kyo
Originally posted by geis:thats usually the case.
it will take a significant event in life to trigger a switch in perspectives.
anyway no one ever knows when is really our 'later part of life'. it could be now.
Just curious, for those who are already serious and keen in spiritual cultivation.
What "trigger a switch in perspectives" in this lifetime?
Originally posted by SoulDivine:
Just curious, for those who are already serious and keen in spiritual cultivation.What "trigger a switch in perspectives" in this lifetime?
Hi,
for me I read about the 6 realms but I dont know why I believe it... Heaven is not the final destination. It sparked my interest in buddhism and I decided to take refuge.
Originally posted by Weychin:Because we care and empathize with them, and only if when they are ready.
You are not empathising, just causing great pain and suffering.
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
You are not empathising, just causing great pain and suffering.
As said above, Buddhists don't proselytize to those who simply aren't interested. Therefore we don't cause any pain. We simply mind our own practice, and help those who have an interest to progress to find the freedom and insights that other fellow practitioners found through their practice.
If someone is not interested in the total liberation and awareness the Buddha taught, we rather save our energy and spend it on our own practice for our own benefit.
Sad to say, almost all my friends aren't interested in these matters, and I'm not doing anything about it. I am not even trying. I am not being selfish - just being realistic about what could possibly come out of it.. Very much similar to how Shakyamuni Buddha after enlightenment wanted to stay in the forest for the rest of his life and did not have any intention to teach thinking that nobody will understand what he is going to talk about. (A Brahma later invited him to teach by doing his best to convince him that some will get it)
Maybe this will change in the future, maybe one day I will try to start convincing someone that true liberation and realization into the ultimate nature of reality is actually possible. Who knows, it's all within the realm of possibility. But I am certain I will not go more than simply mentioning what I know, from experience, is possible... the rest is totally up to them.
Hi SoulDivine
Most people began their cultivation due to family or own problem. The problem maybe related to illness, work related, money, family unrestless and etc. All these problem arising because of our desire for a better outcome. Of course, there will be a minority who seek spiritual cultivation out of curiousity. To me this are the pushing factor.
When they begin to see that through the practise, the problem was resolved or improve. They start to have confident in the practice. That's spark the beginning of a faith journey.
Gassho
Namu Myo Ho Renge Kyo
For my case, I became interested in the Dharma back in the year 2004,
after one of my Army buddy introduced it to me. I like the Dharma the
first time I read it, but never really commit to it...
(then to make my long story short)
From now onwards, I will take my spiritual cultivation seriously.
God bless
us all