Below is the self confessed ex- city harvest member who has kindly revealed how city harvest does their con job
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?p=46046537#post46046537
idkelvin wrote:
no matter wad everyone here said, there will always be fresh blood for CHC. i been there at around 13 yrs old.. and was completely drained by 15. and best part is after i left, all the "brothers and sisters" that you knew would delete your number and forget who the heck are you. they can give u free tuition and everything when u are inside. and once you are out. they wun remember your name.
they work systematically.. everyone go in as fresh blood.. then work ur wae up to usher that you have to dress up every weekend like a waiter.. then to cell group leader and dress up even more like a property agent or inssurance agent.. and work ur wae up to executive.. of coz.. all these are non paying job.. and u have to pay them.. more commitment for you as well.. i not sure if it work the same for all other church.. but this is the first i been to.. and im sick of it enuff already.. most of the teaching are about giving money and u will get wad u wan for return.. or bring ur family and friend.. and make u commit to bringing at least 1 or 2 friends nexk week. dun worri, the senior will help you do the "PR" and "close the sales" and ensure "repeat sales" for you. of coz once their cell group get too big, they will be promote as well.. like division manager lor..
i even heard from friends that they are urge to buy Sun Ho new cd.. when launch, i gt a friend that actually bough 20 cd and give out. i ask him why buy so much he said he is supporting his church.. im sad to hear such things.. she even perform in the church or during events.. i wonder wad happen to the ten
"You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."
"You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me."
"You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name."
i wonder do they really read their bible or do they understand wad the church is teaching and promoting.
you are giving but you are getting more stress to find mre people to give in return.. please do not harm your family and friends if you love them.
Dear All,
if you know of any more con job by city harvest, pls feel free to contribute.
we need to understand the inner workings of this cult which has been preying on vulnerable children.
Posting a christain thingy on a buddist forum. Oh dear obvious troll is obvious
i'm sorry your experience was as such, but i can assure you that's not how most churches operate. and doctrine-wise it's not what true believers really believe in too. i do hope you continue to pursue the Truth, nonetheless, and not let this experience deter you.
Dnt do it if u dnt like it.Rather than blaming smthng!And you have made it clear how stupid u are too!
Hi all,
I'm Louis and I'm Roman Catholic.
It is sad that such a thing is happening in Christian churches.
We don't dare to engage in such activities.
Yes, we do make contributions to our church but it is our choice how much we want to contribute. We are not forced to bring a new friend every week. We are not required to dress so nice nice but of course to dress decently (no shorts, mini-skirts or slippers) But T-shirt and jeans.
If our friends want to join the catholic church, they have to undergo a one year course for non-catholics. In that course, they will learnt about the bible, history of the Catholic church and how the catholic community lives.
After that, they still have to confirm that they really want to join the faith. If they still want, then they will be baptised as a Catholic. After that, they will have to attend sunday service and go for further classes in preparation to be "confirmed" as a catholic. In this final ceremony, they will receive the seven gifts of the holy spirit making them full-fledged catholics.
After that, they will continue to attend sunday service and participate in many of the holy celebrations.
As a catholic, your rights as an individual are respected. You are not forced to join any of the church activities if you don't want. Of course, it would be better if you can join.
As a catholic, you are not necesarily bind to one church. That means if you stay in Woodlands, it does not mean you must attend the service in that church. You are free to go to any of the catholic churches in Singapore to worship God.
In church, you do not need to dress so nice nice but dress decently (so no sleeveless shirt, no mini-skirts, no slippers, no shorts).
Everything is voluntary and comes from your desire to serve God.
I think it is good to post both at eh and wb. Posting at wb will prevent Buddhists or friends and relatives of Buddhists from falling prey to them.
and the stupid "talk in tongue" shit they practice. All the time is always "ah bra bra bra bra bra bra bra".
then those lead singers who stand in front of the stage and emote their orgasmic crap, what with their dyed hair and fashionista dressing.....it looks more like a cult.
Originally posted by Cck689461:Below is the self confessed ex- city harvest member who has kindly revealed how city harvest does their con job
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?p=46046537#post46046537
idkelvin wrote:
Dear All,
if you know of any more con job by city harvest, pls feel free to contribute.
we need to understand the inner workings of this cult which has been preying on vulnerable children.
sounds like it's run like MLM lol
it doesn't seem appropriate to post this in buddhism thread leh. christians shld clean their flock of any misdeeds ...
posting in general non-religious section wld be more appropriate if you wan more ppl to benefit fm this info.
Originally posted by Cck689461:Below is the self confessed ex- city harvest member who has kindly revealed how city harvest does their con job
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?p=46046537#post46046537
idkelvin wrote:
Dear All,
if you know of any more con job by city harvest, pls feel free to contribute.
we need to understand the inner workings of this cult which has been preying on vulnerable children.
Sad to say, City Harvest is not the only church that ignores christians when they leave the church, members/christians of other church do the same. I was "victimised:, too. My experience/encounters with christians let me see how fake majority of christians are (please note, there is still the sincere and pleasant minority). They need you in church, they need your help then they are nice to you.
I have heard about christians from city harvest saying that city harvest is money minded, keeps asking for money from christians.
They way they run the church is like any other commercial organisation , it is no wonder they are getting so rich. Don't forget , Kong Hee is a businessman.
Money money money must be the king in city harvest church.
Seems it is true that for the sake and name of MONEY, they from City Harvest can simply ignore the verses (taken from thread by TS) below:
"You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."
"You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me."
"You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name."
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:I think it is good to post both at eh and wb. Posting at wb will prevent Buddhists or friends and relatives of Buddhists from falling prey to them.
Good idea. There are buddhists who convert to Christianity.
Originally posted by hasene:Sad to say, City Harvest is not the only church that ignores christians when they leave the church, members/christians of other church do the same. I was "victimised:, too. My experience/encounters with christians let me see how fake majority of christians are (please note, there is still the sincere and pleasant minority). They need you in church, they need your help then they are nice to you.
I have heard about christians from city harvest saying that city harvest is money minded, keeps asking for money from christians.
They way they run the church is like any other commercial organisation , it is no wonder they are getting so rich. Don't forget , Kong Hee is a businessman.
Money money money must be the king in city harvest church.
Seems it is true that for the sake and name of MONEY, they from City Harvest can simply ignore the verses (taken from thread by TS) below:
"You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."
"You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me."
"You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name."
Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
- you know who
Listen to the way things are spoken, look at the way things are written.
Bad mouthing is never about reporting the truth.
Look at the singer not the song..
Originally posted by Rock^Star:and the stupid "talk in tongue" shit they practice. All the time is always "ah bra bra bra bra bra bra bra".
then those lead singers who stand in front of the stage and emote their orgasmic crap, what with their dyed hair and fashionista dressing.....it looks more like a cult.
how do u know talk in tongue us ah bra bra bra..........r u an ex christian? is talk in tongue means holy spirit is manifesting itself? oh my goodness, this is superstitious. not content with an invisible divine holy being, there is this invisible holy spirit at work here?