Holy Cross at Clementi
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yeah... Father Richards did mention about the coffin during one of his homilies....
still, he's one who reminds us of our duties to God.. our duties to each other, our duties to ourselves..
but he leaves it up to us.. reminding us each time that "the choice is yours"
Holy Cross has 3 priests..
Father Joseph who is from China.. no one knows what he's talking about during his homilies due to his very heavy accent..
Father Cary who is the kind of typical slightly round, friendly, kindly and long-winded priest... his homilies are long and droning.. after a while you kind of lose what he's trying to tell us as it diverts a lot...
Father Richards is the one who runs the place.. you've seen him..
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Originally posted by Smarty Boy:
Your gf is absolutely right and your other friend is not. So there are no 2 opinions about this and I am very sure. Think about it, you agree that God is great, forgiving, loving etc.....why would He want to condem one of His own children to hell just because he is not a christian? This especially if the child is a good one who is always loving and giving to others?
As converts, we have many ancestors (some must be good people right?) and why would we want to worhip a "god" that will send all our ancestors to hell?
Having said that, it does not means that we contradict that Jesus is the only way to salvation.... He is.
Jesus is the only one tasked by God to judge and He told us exactly what we need to do in Mt 25:31-46 Last Judgement. It is about love and charity that we do that will qualify us to be sheep. I.E. sheep are true disciple of Christ who listen and act on His words (read Mt 7:21-27 and Lk 13:25-28).
Unfortunately, we are not saved by grace alone.....because St Paul never said so. This also drive the big divide in doctrines preached. Read Jas 2:14-26 which to my understanding is that it disturb Martin Luther so much that he actually removed the entire book of James from the bible he preached.
St Paul said in one of the letters (I need to go and find if you must have the quote) that we are judged according to the Gospel he preached and those with law will be judged by the laws and something to that effect.
Depending on how you want to understand and read the bible, salvation is indeed by faith and deeds. Not when we profess our faith or faith alone.
When we profess our faith, it is an indication that we accepted Christ. Having done that, we need to co-operate with Him so that He can accept us into the Kingdom of God. How? By listening and following His Words like I mentioned earlier (read Mt 7:21-27 and Lk 13:25-28).
When we all die, we will meet with Jesus (regardless if we believe Him or not) and face our judgement. The questions He will asked is what He told us in Mt 25:31-46. Our answer determine where we go......
And there is this strong views also about purgatory.....the word was never mentioned in the bible (just like the word Thrinity) but the idea was as in the bible and you can read them up on the following:
(2 Macc. 12:44-45), (Matt. 5:25-26), (1 Cor. 3:13-15), (1 Peter 3:18-20), (Rev. 21:27)
and that gives all who are imperfect (we all are) a chance to be purify by God so that we can finally enter into His Kingdom.
I hope my answer can satisfy you but I am really not trained to do so. The best place you can have a better understanding and know what Catholics is about is the RCIA.
You can go and join one as there are no obligation and you can stop anytime. Or take a copy of the bi-monthly Catholic News and check for talks that are relating to what you want to know and attend them.
i believe this is circumstantial, if a person has never heard of the gospel before, i agree the bible said that God wrote His laws in a person's heart, and he will be judged accordingly. (my friend said that usually catholics give a question mark about salvation for unbelievers for this particular circumstance - that's why they say it is possible that an unbeliever is saved)
But for a person who have heard the good news, and purposefully rejected Jesus in sound mind. like the pharasees and teachers of the law during Jesus time? they believed themselves to be saved because they are able to follow the law rather perfectly.
But Jesus said so many times affirming that salvation comes from faith in Him alone and even rebuked the teachers of the law and even suggesting in a parable that they will be the ones cast out into the cold.
as for the topic of james, i agree really. a person who has salvation, will produce fruits of good work, which proves that he is saved and spiritually alive. a person without works, proves that he is dead inside.
how can you worship God and not try to better urself, and be a person of greater character? (even though, as human, we fail so often, but where sin abounds, grace abounds more)
the only differences is. you see works as the root.. where i see works as the fruits of the Spirit, and it isn't by my effort to produce, and every good work i do, is really Christ in me who enables me to do it.
but these are all doctrines, and in a way, they are all up for personal interpretation.. but.. the most fundamental belief is salvation, which i am more concerned about.
so.. confirm catholics believe that a person of sound mind can still be saved even if he rejects Christ as saviour?
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Originally posted by the Bear:
yeah... Father Richards did mention about the coffin during one of his homilies....
still, he's one who reminds us of our duties to God.. our duties to each other, our duties to ourselves..
but he leaves it up to us.. reminding us each time that "the choice is yours"
Holy Cross has 3 priests..
Father Joseph who is from China.. no one knows what he's talking about during his homilies due to his very heavy accent..
Father Cary who is the kind of typical slightly round, friendly, kindly and long-winded priest... his homilies are long and droning.. after a while you kind of lose what he's trying to tell us as it diverts a lot...
Father Richards is the one who runs the place.. you've seen him..
HAHAHA! my gf said that too. the chinese priest puts her to sleep, God bless him. and father richard always says "the choice is yours" as his signature quote.
father cary's the one who preached during the midnight mass, i believe. ya, his sermon confused me, i only caught the gist of it. i think he tries to cramp too many points in too little time. =)
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Originally posted by dumbdumb!:
i have no idea what's a grotto.
See the first few pictures of this thread and that's the grotto where Mother Mary is.....
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Originally posted by dumbdumb!:
so.. confirm catholics believe that a person of sound mind can still be saved even if he rejects Christ as saviour?
We do not believed that works is the root but work is a must as per scriptures (that I quoted to you). Faith without deeds is dead. Even from your perspective, if there is no works, there is no faith right?
As for people who rejecct Christ, there are 2 sides to a coin. Why do they reject it? Sometimes it is because of how they are being preached to. So who is at fault? The christian preaching or the person who reject it?
The point I am trying to make to you is that God is not petty and He wants to saved the world and not just christians or believers.....which is why He send His only Son to die for the world, the entire human race.
Jesus is here to save and not to condem people to hell.....unless if one's conduct and behaviour is "beyond hope".....If there is love and charity, there is always hope. Judgement is the sole right of Jesus and we are not here to say who goes where....
But as Christians, should we not pray and hope that the enrire human race can go to heaven especially those who showed love and charity even if they are non-believers?
Yes, the Catholic Church teaches that salvation is possible outside the Church.
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Originally posted by dumbdumb!:
lol she did say that, this church used to be the archbishop's or smth, so he always make sure this church gets the best resources. =x
and the priest with the mustache is scary. =x i think his name's.. richard hahaha =D
No lah.....Archbishop is the one who is involved with the Church even when it was not build. He is the one who is responsible and overlook the building of this Church and has been the parish priest (I think for 2o years) until he became the Archbishop.
But I think he will be fair to all Churches under him.....and what resources does the Church really need? I mean special need? No lah...
Fr Richard speaks his mind and can be very direct so you either like him or don't. But as a priest, I think you can rely on him to help if you need. He is a nice guy like most other priests.....Relax.....
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Originally posted by dumbdumb!:
oh no, i had a nice time at holy cross, but that's only because i went with my gf.
i was refering to personal acquaintences who are coincidently catholics.
when i mean exclusive, i mean, cliquey. they'll only talk to their own "kind", nice to their own "kind" etc. it's like, you need to earn some kind of "membership" before they can "do unto others".
imagine, i went to holy family once, to watch a choir performance, and after everything was over, the people who invited me would all get engrossed in talking about it, and walk on deserting me, even forgetting my existance as a new visitor for quite awhile. totally lost in their own world.
and, salvation is exclusive through Jesus, so it wouldn't be the church fault that God made it so.
and yes, i have.. heard of cases where protestant churches are pretty underhand in their teachings about having non believing friends. i used to be from a church which preached that actually, undertable practices.
Relax lah.....if your friend who bring you there (Holy Family in Katong) did not make feel welcome because too engrosed with their freinds, what to do....human mah...
But does not means all Catholics are like that one....and if you make yourself know that you are new there, people will make an effort to explain to you....like what we are doing here....
I don't think we (Catholics) only talk to ourselves.....and we are the least pushy Christians around and thus many non-believers like us better....ha...ha...ha...
Next time, don;t go with those friend....go with yr gf......Relax and enjoy your journey to discover the Catholic Church....if you finally think it is not for you, so be it and go to one that you think make most sense to you in terms of truth and reasons.
At least now you know you have been lied to about worshipping Mother Mary as God.....
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Originally posted by dumbdumb!:
HAHAHA! my gf said that too. the chinese priest puts her to sleep, God bless him. and father richard always says "the choice is yours" as his signature quote.
father cary's the one who preached during the midnight mass, i believe. ya, his sermon confused me, i only caught the gist of it. i think he tries to cramp too many points in too little time. =)
The beauty of the Catholic Church is that there are about 30 Churches for you to choose from and you can go to whichever Church whose priest style of preaching you like. The message and readings are the same in all Churches....
The bad news is that almost all Churches (that I have been to) will have a mixed of very exciting homily and very boring ones.....What to do....
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Originally posted by dumbdumb!:
but yes, it's very restful. as you know. i'm rather.. uneasy around statues and altars etc. some churches they really.. pile up on the candles and flowers etc, and it kinda creeps me out.
but i feel very comfortable at holy cross. very nicely done. =)
Statues and flowers are just for decorative purposes only what....why so uptight?
The only thing that is the most important in the Tabernacle (on the left hand side if you are facing the alter at Holy Cross) where the host is placed and kept.
By the way, all Catholic Churches have more or less the same setting one....
Just relax in the Church and there is no "pantang" one lah....Only thing must always give respect to God.
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hey btw, what version of the bible are you guys using for the first and 2nd reading?
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Originally posted by dumbdumb!:
hey btw, what version of the bible are you guys using for the first and 2nd reading?
Holy Cross is using The Jerusalem Bible (which you will get a copy free with RCIA) but it doesn't really matter because they are the same.
The first reading is taken from OT and the second reading from NT. The Gospel reading is taken from Mt,Mk,Lk and Jn followed by the priest's homily.
You will realised that all 3 goes hand in hand and support each other and the message that God wants us to hear including the Paslms...
By the way, you may or may not know that the Catholic version of the Bible contains more books than the protestant version in the OT.
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hmm, nice renovated church :)
However, the crucifix doesn't look like one...
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Originally posted by Smarty Boy:
Holy Cross is using The Jerusalem Bible (which you will get a copy free with RCIA) but it doesn't really matter because they are the same.
The first reading is taken from OT and the second reading from NT. The Gospel reading is taken from Mt,Mk,Lk and Jn followed by the priest's homily.
You will realised that all 3 goes hand in hand and support each other and the message that God wants us to hear including the Paslms...
By the way, you may or may not know that the Catholic version of the Bible contains more books than the protestant version in the OT.
yes i know. 7-9 books right? and as a protestant, i don't believe they are divinely inspired - since i think we believe that God stayed silent for 400 years from the last book of the OT.
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Originally posted by catinthehat:
hmm, nice renovated church :)
However, the crucifix doesn't look like one...
lol.. i quite like the new design ah. no crucifix, so?
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anyway.. kudos to father richard la. i heard he's really righteous, not scared, don't give face type, speaks the truth as it is.
but.. dunno how many ppl take him seriously lol. after all, he's right, the choice is ours.
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oh you should visit Holy Cross one day and hear Fr Richards preach :)
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Originally posted by dumbdumb!:
yes i know. 7-9 books right? and as a protestant, i don't believe they are divinely inspired - since i think we believe that God stayed silent for 400 years from the last book of the OT.
It's ok not to believe....no problem. Your disbelief does not make it untrue. Afterall, both versions come from the same source and complied by the same Church.
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Originally posted by Smarty Boy:
It's ok not to believe....no problem. Your disbelief does not make it untrue. Afterall, both versions come from the same source and complied by the same Church.
not really.
The First Christian Bible
At the time the Christian Bible was being formed, a Greek translation of Jewish Scripture, the Septuagint, was in common use and Christians adopted it as the Old Testament of the Christian Bible. However, around 100 A.D., Jewish rabbis revised their Scripture and established an official canon of Judaism which excluded some portions of the Greek Septuagint. The material excluded was a group of 15 late Jewish books, written during the period 170 B.C. to 70 A.D., that were not found in Hebrew versions of the Jewish Scripture. Christians did not follow the revisions of Judaism and continued to use the text of the Septuagint as the Old Testament.Protestant Bibles
In the 1500s, Protestant leaders decided to organize the Old Testament material according to the official canon of Judaism rather than the Septuagint. They moved the Old Testament material which was not in the Jewish canon into a separate section of the Bible called the Apocrypha. So, Protestant Bibles then included all the same material as the earlier Bible, but it was divided into two sections: the Old Testament and the Apocrypha. Protestant Bibles included the Apocrypha until the mid 1800s, and the King James Version was originally published with the Apocrypha. However, the books of the Apocrypha were considered less important, and the Apocrypha was eventually dropped from most Protestant editions.Catholic and Orthodox Bibles
The Roman Catholic and Orthodox Churches did not follow the Protestant revisions, and they continue to base their Old Testament on the Septuagint. The result is that these versions of the the Bible have more Old Testament books than most Protestant versions. Catholic Old Testaments include 1st and 2nd Maccabees, Baruch, Tobit, Judith, The Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach (Ecclesiasticus), additions to Esther, and the stories of Susanna and Bel and the Dragon which are included in Daniel. Orthodox Old Testaments include these plus1st and 2nd Esdras, Prayer of Manasseh, Psalm 151 and 3rd Maccabees.HISTORY:
The Catholic Church has a long history over which time it has changed in many ways, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse.
Protestant Christianity began in the 1500's when a group of people began to protest against some of the wrong things they believed the Catholic Church was doing and teaching. These protesters became separated from the Catholic Church and formed their own Church which was more inline with what they believed was the truth. Just like the Catholic Church, Protestant Churches are not perfect, they have also changed many times in many ways.
The main issue is Catholics have believed and done some things differently to what Protestants believe the Bible has instructed. Protestants believe this is a result of Catholics believing what certain individuals and traditions have said, rather than what God has said through the Bible. The problem of traditions becoming more important than God's truth is something all religions have at some time been guilty of, including Protestants. The Catholic Church has admitted to some of the errors it has been guilty of in the past, and has changed. But there are still some beliefs and practices that Protestants would say are against what the Bible teaches.
An example of change in the Catholic church is, the fact that today, the Catholic Church does encourage Bible reading. But in the past the Catholic church has discouraged personal study of the Bible, in fact reading the Bible was at one time banned by the Church. Only certain people were allowed to do so. People that did read, or spread the Bible, were even killed by the Catholic Church, like William Tyndale who was one of the first people to translate the Bible into English.
The Catholic Bibles include certain books which Protestants say should not be there. They are called the apocryphal books, which are writings protestants do not believe have been approved as inspired by God. Since they are not referred to as Scripture by Jesus or His disciples.
At one time almost all Catholic Church services were entirely in the Latin language, and only a few people could understand Latin. This is no longer case.2 diff sources
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Originally posted by dumbdumb!:
not really.
The First Christian Bible
At the time the Christian Bible was being formed, a Greek translation of Jewish Scripture, the Septuagint, was in common use and Christians adopted it as the Old Testament of the Christian Bible. However, around 100 A.D., Jewish rabbis revised their Scripture and established an official canon of Judaism which excluded some portions of the Greek Septuagint. The material excluded was a group of 15 late Jewish books, written during the period 170 B.C. to 70 A.D., that were not found in Hebrew versions of the Jewish Scripture. Christians did not follow the revisions of Judaism and continued to use the text of the Septuagint as the Old Testament.Protestant Bibles
In the 1500s, Protestant leaders decided to organize the Old Testament material according to the official canon of Judaism rather than the Septuagint. They moved the Old Testament material which was not in the Jewish canon into a separate section of the Bible called the Apocrypha. So, Protestant Bibles then included all the same material as the earlier Bible, but it was divided into two sections: the Old Testament and the Apocrypha. Protestant Bibles included the Apocrypha until the mid 1800s, and the King James Version was originally published with the Apocrypha. However, the books of the Apocrypha were considered less important, and the Apocrypha was eventually dropped from most Protestant editions.Catholic and Orthodox Bibles
The Roman Catholic and Orthodox Churches did not follow the Protestant revisions, and they continue to base their Old Testament on the Septuagint. The result is that these versions of the the Bible have more Old Testament books than most Protestant versions. Catholic Old Testaments include 1st and 2nd Maccabees, Baruch, Tobit, Judith, The Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach (Ecclesiasticus), additions to Esther, and the stories of Susanna and Bel and the Dragon which are included in Daniel. Orthodox Old Testaments include these plus1st and 2nd Esdras, Prayer of Manasseh, Psalm 151 and 3rd Maccabees.HISTORY:
The Catholic Church has a long history over which time it has changed in many ways, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse.
Protestant Christianity began in the 1500's when a group of people began to protest against some of the wrong things they believed the Catholic Church was doing and teaching. These protesters became separated from the Catholic Church and formed their own Church which was more inline with what they believed was the truth. Just like the Catholic Church, Protestant Churches are not perfect, they have also changed many times in many ways.
The main issue is Catholics have believed and done some things differently to what Protestants believe the Bible has instructed. Protestants believe this is a result of Catholics believing what certain individuals and traditions have said, rather than what God has said through the Bible. The problem of traditions becoming more important than God's truth is something all religions have at some time been guilty of, including Protestants. The Catholic Church has admitted to some of the errors it has been guilty of in the past, and has changed. But there are still some beliefs and practices that Protestants would say are against what the Bible teaches.
An example of change in the Catholic church is, the fact that today, the Catholic Church does encourage Bible reading. But in the past the Catholic church has discouraged personal study of the Bible, in fact reading the Bible was at one time banned by the Church. Only certain people were allowed to do so. People that did read, or spread the Bible, were even killed by the Catholic Church, like William Tyndale who was one of the first people to translate the Bible into English.
The Catholic Bibles include certain books which Protestants say should not be there. They are called the apocryphal books, which are writings protestants do not believe have been approved as inspired by God. Since they are not referred to as Scripture by Jesus or His disciples.
At one time almost all Catholic Church services were entirely in the Latin language, and only a few people could understand Latin. This is no longer case.2 diff sources
Ya....it's ok because that is a simply a anti-catholic version......the fact does not change......What protestant does not believes cannot equal to the truth at least to the Catholics....and vice versa.
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For the benefits of those who wants to know about this Tyndale guy's story and some information about the origin of the Bible, you can go to http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2002/0212fea3.asp to read about it.
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Originally posted by dumbdumb!:...
not really.
The First Christian Bible
At the time the Christian Bible was being formed, a Greek translation of Jewish Scripture, the Septuagint, was in common use and Christians adopted it as the Old Testament of the Christian Bible. However, around 100 A.D., Jewish rabbis revised their Scripture and established an official canon of Judaism which excluded some portions of the Greek Septuagint. The material excluded was a group of 15 late Jewish books, written during the period 170 B.C. to 70 A.D., that were not found in Hebrew versions of the Jewish Scripture. Christians did not follow the revisions of Judaism and continued to use the text of the Septuagint as the Old Testament.Protestant Bibles
In the 1500s, Protestant leaders decided to organize the Old Testament material according to the official canon of Judaism rather than the Septuagint. They moved the Old Testament material which was not in the Jewish canon into a separate section of the Bible called the Apocrypha. So, Protestant Bibles then included all the same material as the earlier Bible, but it was divided into two sections: the Old Testament and the Apocrypha. Protestant Bibles included the Apocrypha until the mid 1800s, and the King James Version was originally published with the Apocrypha. However, the books of the Apocrypha were considered less important, and the Apocrypha was eventually dropped from most Protestant editions.Catholic and Orthodox Bibles
The Roman Catholic and Orthodox Churches did not follow the Protestant revisions, and they continue to base their Old Testament on the Septuagint. The result is that these versions of the the Bible have more Old Testament books than most Protestant versions. Catholic Old Testaments include 1st and 2nd Maccabees, Baruch, Tobit, Judith, The Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach (Ecclesiasticus), additions to Esther, and the stories of Susanna and Bel and the Dragon which are included in Daniel. Orthodox Old Testaments include these plus1st and 2nd Esdras, Prayer of Manasseh, Psalm 151 and 3rd Maccabees.It must be highlighted that one of the motivations of these Jewish abbis in trying to revise (including re-translating) the commonly used Greek Septuagint was because Christians at that time were using the Septuagint for evangelistic purposes - they were converting Jews to Christianity using the Jews' own Greek scriptures ! Tthis took place around 90-100 AD, after the destruction of the Jewish temple by the Romans (70 AD) and after God had replaced the old wine and wineskin (Judaism) with the new wine (the gospel) and new wineskin (the Church). Why would any Christian then accept the decision of those rabbis on scripture as authoritive and binding ? I wouldn't.
The new testament authors quoted from the original Greek Septuagint and the Septuagint was accepted by Christendom as part of the bible for 1500 years before protestants came along and decided that they would follow the example of those Jewish rabbis in throwing out various books from the old testament.
Originally posted by dumbdumb!:...
HISTORY:
The Catholic Church has a long history over which time it has changed in many ways, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse.
Protestant Christianity began in the 1500's when a group of people began to protest against some of the wrong things they believed the Catholic Church was doing and teaching. These protesters became separated from the Catholic Church and formed their own Church which was more inline with what they believed was the truth. Just like the Catholic Church, Protestant Churches are not perfect, they have also changed many times in many ways.
The main issue is Catholics have believed and done some things differently to what Protestants believe the Bible has instructed. Protestants believe this is a result of Catholics believing what certain individuals and traditions have said, rather than what God has said through the Bible. The problem of traditions becoming more important than God's truth is something all religions have at some time been guilty of, including Protestants. The Catholic Church has admitted to some of the errors it has been guilty of in the past, and has changed. But there are still some beliefs and practices that Protestants would say are against what the Bible teaches.
An example of change in the Catholic church is, the fact that today, the Catholic Church does encourage Bible reading. But in the past the Catholic church has discouraged personal study of the Bible, in fact reading the Bible was at one time banned by the Church. Only certain people were allowed to do so. People that did read, or spread the Bible, were even killed by the Catholic Church, like William Tyndale who was one of the first people to translate the Bible into English.
The Catholic Bibles include certain books which Protestants say should not be there. They are called the apocryphal books, which are writings protestants do not believe have been approved as inspired by God. Since they are not referred to as Scripture by Jesus or His disciples.
At one time almost all Catholic Church services were entirely in the Latin language, and only a few people could understand Latin. This is no longer case.2 diff sources
Yes, the Catholic Church has changed over the centuries. Worship practices have changed (services conducted in Latin previously and now in various languages including english) but its dogma and doctrines have never contradicted one another or the bible even as theological development took place. Catholics believe Jesus' promises in Mathew 16 that the gates of Hell would never prevail against the Church, and that the Church is the pillar and foundation of the truth, as written by St Paul in 1Timothy3:15.
In the past, the Church has certainly erred in terms of politics, the conduct of its clergy etc. Afterall, as with any human organisation, the Church is made up of human beings prone to sin; but this is entirely distinct from its teachings of dogma and doctrines which we believe to contain no error. Your write-up puts it very well when it says, "These protesters became separated from the Catholic Church and formed their own Church which was more inline with what they believed was the truth." (emphasis added)
As regards to reading the bible, the Church has never discouraged the reading or personal study of the bible. What it discouraged and even banned where necessary were bible translations that were inaccurate at best or at worst, corrupt and full of heresy in trying to teach false doctrine and morals. The article link provided by SmartyBoy gives more details of the Tyndale episode. One point to note though, personal study of the bible does not mean that each Christian is free to interpret scripture any way he likes without regard to the teachings of the Church. This is the surest way to the fragmentation of doctrine that we see in the protestant world today.
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Originally posted by Omnia:
One point to note though, personal study of the bible does not mean that each Christian is free to interpret scripture any way he likes without regard to the teachings of the Church. This is the surest way to the fragmentation of doctrine that we see in the protestant world today.
Agreed! If everybody says his interpretation right, then who is right though all are conflicting?
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looks like a very nice church even though that there are no facade on the church the aura and the ambience still look great and the experience..is good planning to have some prints on papers which contains prayers and disseminate it to people...
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Originally posted by dumbdumb:
However, around 100 A.D., Jewish rabbis revised their Scripture and established an official canon of Judaism which excluded some portions of the Greek Septuagint. The material excluded was a group of 15 late Jewish books, written during the period 170 B.C. to 70 A.D., that were not found in Hebrew versions of the Jewish Scripture. Christians did not follow the revisions of Judaism and continued to use the text of the Septuagint as the Old Testament.
Hi dumbdumb, please do get a copy of the Jewish bible, the tanakh, and compare with the books of the OT in your christian bible, you will be surprised. i think u have not only misunderstood the jewish faith, u have also misunderstood the Catholic faith.
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Hi, new here, catholic and from holycross too.
just wondering..
how do you guys gather so much knowledge of catholicism? I mean i went through catechism and am a confirmed catholic but..
from what i think, the only way to acquire a rich amuont of knowledge is to be a seminarian. (have got no intention of being a priest though :P)
Or is there any other way?
I've got a few questions to ask too..
1. Is it wrong to feel put off when a protestant friend suddenly tells me in a middle of a conversation when i said that my grandparents are Buddhists, "Why you never bring the gospel to them!? Har!?"
I mean like, firstly, communication between grandchild and grandparents isn't that good, they've been Buddhist perhaps all their lives, although i admit im not being very christian by not spreading the good news to them, but still......
2. Went for confession, told my protestant friend about it, then he said something like you mean you dont believe God can forgive your sins. As in maybe why must you go for confession while you can just pray to God?
I know it has something to do with God and the congregation.
3. Honestly, why are there divisions among our religion, christainity as a whole? I mean, its not helping the human race man..
I'm a catholic, i've got little against other denominations (shan't talk about the 'little'), i fully respect their decision. But somehow they seem to have something against us one way or another. Like "only catholics do that", "we're different" haha. (sorry for stereotyping)
P.S. I'm okie with the new church… though the cruxifix.. hmmmmm.... lol
I love olden day churches more, those high celing, pointy roofs, wooden pews, old wooden cruxifix. Gives a mystical warm feeling.