What do u think of this quote from Our Lady.
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"Many cardinals, many bishops and many priests are on the road to perdition and are taking many souls with them." - Our Lady of Garabandal, June 18, 1965
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garabandal
Vatican does not deny it and the Pope visited her. -
This apparition looks legit to me....
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Precisely, it is 'legit'
Its quite scary, priest and cardinals gg into Hell and dragging us with them. IWhat is the cause? Vatican 2, modernism, humanism???? -
how come the whole hierarchy is included but not the Pope?
no wonder the Pope visited her lah .. haha. -
LOL, well most modern Popes are quite well-behaved haha.Originally posted by Icemoon:how come the whole hierarchy is included but not the Pope?
no wonder the Pope visited her lah .. haha.
More troubling quotes:
“The tail of the devil is functioning in the disintegration of the Catholic world. The darkness of satan has entered and spread throughout the Catholic Church even to its summit. Apostasy, the loss of the faith, is spreading throughout the world and into the highest levels within the Church.”
- Pope Paul VI, October 13, 1977
“The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against other bishops.”
- Our Lady of Akita, October 13, 1973. (The apparitions of Akita, Japan, were approved by Bishop John Shojiro Ito, Bishop of Niigata Japan, in April 1984.)
“It’s [Third secret] in the Gospel and in the Apocalypse, read them!” - Sister Lucy -
I just realized something.
Were those quotes by the pope ex-cathedra? If they are not .. then they can be debated on .. ahem. -
Haha not excathedra.Originally posted by Icemoon:I just realized something.
Were those quotes by the pope ex-cathedra? If they are not .. then they can be debated on .. ahem.
List of ex cathedra documents
Regarding historical papal documents, Catholic theologian and church historian Klaus Schatz made a thorough study, published in 1985, that identified the following list of ex cathedra documents (see Creative Fidelity: Weighing and Interpreting Documents of the Magisterium, by Francis A. Sullivan, chapter 6):
"Tome to Flavian", Pope Leo I, 449, on the two natures in Christ, received by the Council of Chalcedon;
Letter of Pope Agatho, 680, on the two wills of Christ, received by the Third Council of Constantinople;
Benedictus Deus, Pope Benedict XII, 1336, on the beatific vision of the just prior to final judgment;
Cum occasione, Pope Innocent X, 1653, condemning five propositions of Jansen as heretical;
Auctorem fidei, Pope Pius VI, 1794, condemning seven Jansenist propositions of the Synod of Pistoia as heretical;
Ineffabilis Deus, Pope Pius IX, 1854, defining the immaculate conception; and
Munificentissimus Deus, Pope Pius XII, 1950, defining the assumption of Mary.
It is debatable. What do u think he meant?