different language used between man&woman + interpretation
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ger: do u remember wat date is it today?
boi: my mother birthday or my dad?
ger: never mind.
(forget it u dun remember it. is the 2yr of the day we started dating)
boi: tell me lah. i really cannot remember.
ger: i going home now. no mood le.
( still dun remember
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boi: u tired har. ok lah. i see u another day/
ger: fine. and walk away
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Your reply:::Originally posted by the Bear:why the sigh?
you know it's true...
in an argument, the woman loses her temper and slaps the man, the main thing thought by everyone: he deserves it.. he must have done something wrong..
if a man slaps a woman, the thought would be: "what a barbarian! how dare he slap the woman?"
it's a no-win situation which some men will walk away from... discretion is the better part of valour here...
His (bear's) point is not about who's slapping who. You got it wrong.Originally posted by jusgal:i dun go round slapping people. it hurts to slap the one u love okie.
Food for thought: Do you know it also hurts for a man to hurt someone he loves?
What he's trying to present is the social expectations of different gender.
He means what a female can do doesn't mean that guys could do the same in the public.
Girl slap Guy = Guy did something wrong, girl so poorthing.
Guy slap Girl = Guy bas.tard, girl maybe wrong but still very poorthing.
Public's verdict: Guy is in the wrong.
Hence females have an 'advantage' and use 'it' to take advantage.
The Bear presented a general issue. A issue of social gender.
What you interprete = You tot he's talking about you.
Jusgal replied as if a personal issue.
We know that you won't slap those whom you love and of cos not even those whom you're not familiar with.
But how about those who took advantage??? Can you answer for them? -
Originally posted by M©+square:
i cannot answer but i was saying if is me. i won't. cos i dun go round slapping people.
His (bear's) point is not about who's slapping who. You got it wrong.
What he's trying to present is the social expectations of different gender.
He means what a female can do doesn't mean that guys could do the same in the public.
Girl slap Guy = Guy did something wrong, girl so poorthing.
Guy slap Girl = Guy bas.tard, girl maybe wrong but still very poorthing.
Public's verdict: Guy is in the wrong.
Hence females have an 'advantage' and use 'it' to take advantage.
[b]The Bear presented a general issue. A issue of social gender.
What you interprete = You tot he's talking about you.
Jusgal replied as if a personal issue.
We know that you won't slap those whom you love and of cos not even those whom you're not familiar with.
But how about those who took advantage??? Can you answer for them?
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then i also tell him. is not easy to cry whenever u wanna loh. -
Originally posted by M©+square:
i also say it depends on the circumstances also. and is between the two party. not on public verdict.
His (bear's) point is not about who's slapping who. You got it wrong.
What he's trying to present is the social expectations of different gender.
He means what a female can do doesn't mean that guys could do the same in the public.
Girl slap Guy = Guy did something wrong, girl so poorthing.
Guy slap Girl = Guy bas.tard, girl maybe wrong but still very poorthing.
Public's verdict: Guy is in the wrong.
Hence females have an 'advantage' and use 'it' to take advantage.
[b]The Bear presented a general issue. A issue of social gender.
What you interprete = You tot he's talking about you.
Jusgal replied as if a personal issue.
We know that you won't slap those whom you love and of cos not even those whom you're not familiar with.
But how about those who took advantage??? Can you answer for them?
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my topics is on the words of speech not on actions. dun go off the topics. thanks
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Your reply:::Originally posted by the Bear:but.. think about it.. to those around, the woman is ALWAYS totally blameless.. no matter how evil, how wrong, how messed up, how wrongly suspicious, how manipulative... she is...
she is never wrong...
it is always the guy's fault...
i have noticed this myself.. big quarrel in public between a couple... the question asked by people around me is "wonder what he's done?"
frankly, some women have figured this out and have used this to their advantage...
combine it with tears, the hard-wired need for men to "look out for womenfolk" and the way people think of ladies as "the weaker sex"... it makes women formidable psychological weapons...
and it is not beneath some women to use that to their advantage...
p.s. it hurts? ever thought of the guy? you just hurt them physically, emotionally, physically and left on him a wound worse than the emotional scar you say you suffered...Originally posted by jusgal:it depends on different situation. okie? not just like tat.
the guy can be the one really in fault mah
Again you're not answering him objectively. Try to open to his perspective. Don't you think he has a point? You made it seem like Bear is stating a personal attack.Originally posted by the Bear:yes.. but.. don't you see it... stop looking at "whose fault"... look at who the odds are stacked against...
a totally blameless dude could be lynched with the same reason...
the bottom line is: trust your guy... you chose him, you better learn to trust him..
don't use emotional blackmail against him.. don't tell him yes when you mean no.. don't tell him "it's all right" when it isn't...
because he trusts you totally, he's going to take those things face-value.. screw venus, screw mars.. this is planet earth...
when a guy says "nothing" he means it.. and if you cannot understand that, you cannot turn around and cry bitterly saying he does not understand you if you keep saying "it's all right" when you don't mean it..
after a while, he'll learn not to trust you... simply because you did not tell him simple truths...
and everything goes to hell after..
so, is it easier to be straightforward and call a spade a spade, or is it easier for a man to learn (and he will fail dismally) the "language" of women who do not say what they mean?
and back to "different situations", no matter what situations, the woman will prevail.. right or wrong... because, tragically men are hard-wired that way.. the battle may be won... but in the long run, the whole war may be lost...
yes.. but.. don't you see it... stop looking at "whose fault"...Originally posted by jusgal:never mind lah....
It's true that you don't see it.
What disturbs me deeply is your final reply to his post. I think it is a extreme disrespect not to reply him in objective to what he had said. Yet chose to brush off the fact....
Disgusted..... -
ger: Do you Love Me? (used cos she wanna hear him say yes)Originally posted by jusgal:example:
ger: do u love me? (used cos she wanna hear him say yes.)
guy: why must u keep asking the same question. not sian har.
( y u so fan ren)
guy: why must u keep asking the same question? (You don't trust me when i say yes? It makes me feel very unsettled when ever you ask this question. It's as if my YES is not enough, as if my confession and my words could not be true and truly satisfy you.) -
ger: dear, seems like we long time never go out le hor?Originally posted by jusgal:example:
ger: dear, seems like we long time never go out le hor?
( means: shall we go out and dun stay in door?)
guy: got wat. we got go out for meals mah.
(aiyoh...y u so troublesome)
( means: shall we go out and dun stay in door?)
guy: We did. We got go out for meals mah.
(We did. Just that it's not as frequent as like what we used to do.) -
Again you're not answering him objectively. Try to open to his perspective. Don't you think he has a point? You made it seem like Bear is stating a personal attack.Originally posted by M©+square:yes.. but.. don't you see it... stop looking at "whose fault"...
It's true that you don't see it.
What disturbs me deeply is your final reply to his post. I think it is a extreme disrespect not to reply him in objective to what he had said. Yet chose to brush off the fact....
Disgusted.....
<< LOOK i never say he making personal attack. i only say tat other won't be able to know exactly wat happen. so cannot assume. it could be the guy is really in fault or it could be mutual.
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Ok. I'll take it as that.Originally posted by jusgal:Again you're not answering him objectively. Try to open to his perspective. Don't you think he has a point? You made it seem like Bear is stating a personal attack.
<< LOOK i never say he making personal attack. i only say tat other won't be able to know exactly wat happen. so cannot assume. it could be the guy is really in fault or it could be mutual.
We shouldn't assume. -
can u quote more examples of speech then?Originally posted by M©+square:Ok. I'll take it as that.
We shouldn't assume. 
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Girl class ended 2pm and Guy still working till 5pm.
Girl called Guy.
Girl: Hi, i finished class already. I'm free...
(Free after work? I want to meet you. Miss you lots.)
Guy: Uh huh, i'll be ending work at 5pm. Do you wish to wait for me?
(Busy busy busy...hope to see you too. But don't want you to wait for me for three hours. Can't offer any solution also...feel bad that you have to wait for hours just to see me)
Girl: I think i go home la....
(Hai, he don't care about me. How come he don't understand that i miss him alot, how come he can hack care me while i'm so in love with him? why...*sad* He could have said he want me to wait for him, i would do wait one lor!)
Guy: You want to go home ah...errr...you very tired ah? If tired then go home and rest la.
(Hai, ask her to wait for me for three hours almost everyday i also very gek sim. Ask her to go home means that i won't get to see my dear girl. How? But if she's tired i'll let her go home and rest rather then stay up and wait.
I want her to take care of herself and have a proper rest also. Can't bear to see my dear girl so tired.)
Girl: Huh. Ok lor. Bye...
(Why why why??? He don't understand? I feel like a fool calling him and hoping that he'll want to meet me. Upset.......)
Guy: Ok Bye, i'll call you when i'm free *Put down phone*
(I hope i've made the right decision by letting her go rest. Maybe i'll drop by her house and surprise her with something she always like after i've finished my work...*GRINz...**very tired*
Hope to see her looking fresh!)
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What happens if the gal wants to have fun (I mean that fun)
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quite true....happen to most peopleOriginally posted by M©+square:Girl class ended 2pm and Guy still working till 5pm.
Girl called Guy.
Girl: Hi, i finished class already. I'm free...
(Free after work? I want to meet you. Miss you lots.)
Guy: Uh huh, i'll be ending work at 5pm. Do you wish to wait for me?
(Busy busy busy...hope to see you too. But don't want you to wait for me for three hours. Can't offer any solution also...feel bad that you have to wait for hours just to see me)
Girl: I think i go home la....
(Hai, he don't care about me. How come he don't understand that i miss him alot, how come he can hack care me while i'm so in love with him? why...*sad* He could have said he want me to wait for him, i would do wait one lor!)
Guy: You want to go home ah...errr...you very tired ah? If tired then go home and rest la.
(Hai, ask her to wait for me for three hours almost everyday i also very gek sim. Ask her to go home means that i won't get to see my dear girl. How? But if she's tired i'll let her go home and rest rather then stay up and wait.
I want her to take care of herself and have a proper rest also. Can't bear to see my dear girl so tired.)
Girl: Huh. Ok lor. Bye...
(Why why why??? He don't understand? I feel like a fool calling him and hoping that he'll want to meet me. Upset.......)
Guy: Ok Bye, i'll call you when i'm free *Put down phone*
(I hope i've made the right decision by letting her go rest. Maybe i'll drop by her house and surprise her with something she always like after i've finished my work...*GRINz...**very tired*
Hope to see her looking fresh!)
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Originally posted by sbst275:What happens if the gal wants to have fun (I mean that fun)
u mean ONS?
wow....
u met any like this? -
I mean married couple on the bedOriginally posted by jusgal:
u mean ONS?
wow....
u met any like this? -
oh... read more on marital enhancement baOriginally posted by sbst275:I mean married couple on the bed -
After a long walk @long Orchard RoadOriginally posted by jusgal:can u quote more examples of speech then?
Girl stays Woodlands Guy stays Pasir Ris
Girl: I'm tired, wanna go home.
(You wanna send me home? I wish you can. But i want you to offer sincerely)
Guy: Yeah me too. Let me send you home.
(I'm really tired. If possible. I'd prefer to go on our seperate ways. But i'm afraid of my girl's safety. So it's my responsibility.)
Girl: No need, i can go home on my own. You tired le. You go home and rest k?
(I really want you to send me home. But you're tired too. But i really want....)
Guy: You sure???
(*Happy + concerned*)
Girl: yes...(look convinced)
(Hai....why can't i just ask him to accompany me home. Just want to stay with him longer.)
Guy: Ok lor.
(we're meeting tomorrow morning anyway. still got time for one another. Can lah, respect her decision.)
Girl: Bye... (Boarded up the bus)
(Stupid BOY!!!!!! )
Guy: Can play PS2....
(Play game. But i'm worried for her also...she weird weird towards the end. Didn't gimmie goodbye kiss also. What's wrong? *scratch head*) -
Mine was thisOriginally posted by jusgal:oh... read more on marital enhancement ba
Gal: Honey... (Stare and made charges on me)
Guy: What? (Say directly lah)
Gal: I embrass (Pai Sei)
Guy: What?
Gal: Really need me to say?
Guy: Ya
Gal: Mating
Guy: Naughty gal
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ya...cos the ger felt disappointed. misunderstanding cos they hoping the partner can guess their thoughtsOriginally posted by M©+square:After a long walk @long Orchard Road
Girl stays Woodlands Guy stays Pasir Ris
Girl: I'm tired, wanna go home.
(You wanna send me home? I wish you can. But i want you to offer sincerely)
Guy: Yeah me too. Let me send you home.
(I'm really tired. If possible. I'd prefer to go on our seperate ways. But i'm afraid of my girl's safety. So it's my responsibility.)
Girl: No need, i can go home on my own. You tired le. You go home and rest k?
(I really want you to send me home. But you're tired too. But i really want....)
Guy: You sure???
(*Happy + concerned*)
Girl: yes...(look convinced)
(Hai....why can't i just ask him to accompany me home. Just want to stay with him longer.)
Guy: Ok lor.
(we're meeting tomorrow morning anyway. still got time for one another. Can lah, respect her decision.)
Girl: Bye... (Boarded up the bus)
(Stupid BOY!!!!!! )
Guy: Can play PS2....
(Play game. But i'm worried for her also...she weird weird towards the end. Didn't gimmie goodbye kiss also. What's wrong? *scratch head*) -
she also need to understand where he's staying.Originally posted by jusgal:ya...cos the ger felt disappointed -
Originally posted by sbst275:Mine was this
Gal: Honey... (Stare and made charges on me)
Guy: What? (Say directly lah)
Gal: I embrass (Pai Sei)
Guy: What?
Gal: Really need me to say?
Guy: Ya
Gal: Mating
Guy: Naughty gal 
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ger handmade some handicraft to the boi.
boi said u need not give me such things le.
boi means to say dun do for me and i rather u rest more instead but ger feel tat her effort wasted. -
does guys find it hard to admit u love the ger?
cos they hardly say it out tat they love the ger... -
Good guys like to be pretty certain before they say anything .....Originally posted by jusgal:does guys find it hard to admit u love the ger?
cos they hardly say it out tat they love the ger...
In other words, they hate to cheat girls by saying "I love you" when they are not certain about it actually