not gonna side with both~Originally posted by HENG@:sylvia, do u know what happened between susan n hong hong before bear stepped in? no so i think we cannot just judge like that. and u don't quite know the previous history and going ons, so u can't just say its because "she agitated honghong simply because she name her as "hong"" so simple.
im not judging u, nor am i saying u side anyone.Originally posted by ^sylvia^:not gonna side with both~
i'm not the bear, neither am i honghong or meowsusan
im just posting my views, whats being posted here, i look in and i say my views.
if something complicates more, please say so or don't judge me too ya?
ehh not who wanna die arOriginally posted by ditzy:/me looks at own signature again.
i reply only at whats up there, i knew your gonna reply mi with this.Originally posted by HENG@:im not judging u, nor am i saying u side anyone.
im just pointing out that that conversation highlighted here is incomplete, thus it may have given a mis-impression, hence its not right to make any statements based on that alone.
this is what i m trying to say all this while "pple" who dont read the logic behind and keep saying that i m taunting or whatever sh1t......Originally posted by Dan Ryou Shou:y cant the relavenet person come in n clear the air.. so tat there wont be so many misleadings n communications break down...
agree , but tortise head still hiding in his shell.Originally posted by IamAngeline:Seems like more n more ppl getting in the pict.
haiz..
I think 1 thing is..
pardon me for saying dis.
this thread shouldn't have started at all.
whoever is related, read twice what everyone's posting here and understand the intention.
and most impt is, not those who persuade this thread to dissolve means we r siding bear huh?
everyone goes for outing, makes friend here, y turn dis place into such an ugly one?
Just a penny of my tots
well said,Originally posted by AngelDark:hmm, i didn't get directly involved in this fiasco, but there are some pts that i think u guys shld think it over... this whole situation now resembles a mini riot, without any party having a gain.
fos n co. : u all want bear n co to apologize, but what if they dun intend to post at all? or maybe they never bothered to come into this thread to read?
yes, susan is very very easily misunderstood, as she can't express herself well, be it by words or by speech. but i really do have to conclude that she did have some weakness that incurred some thoughts of her to change in some ppl. i shan't explain more, afterall, she's still my fren.
bear n co. : words spoken can't be taken back, this is true. often we can criticise anything we dun like, and we often hurt those who can't take the criticism. i have been in situations where my words are misrepresented, and even worse still, my words are warped, twisted such that the original meaning seems to be vile. if u think of it that way, and on how strong is the command of susan's language, u shld be able to ascern the problem's surface.
i believe, however, this problem is not as simple as the surface. it is how u guys look at susan, how u guys perceive her as. no doubt we can't change the way we see ppl, but by labling her as such, in ur grp, it isn't fair to her at all.
nel: i noe ur efforts are there, to qwell this unrest, but i think the ultimatum for this matter to rest will come when fos n co. get what they want, and bear n co. do not lose what they want (all chinese want this one). but the main thing is, u posting here, is met with opposition so far, and ur comments has somehow triggered more bad blood against bear n co. i think the best course of action, is of course to let them settle it amicably, and silently. dun let this matter get even worse.
susan : whether u are the victim, or u are the villian, i dun really care, but i really wan u to wake up. we have been frens for so long, and although u did improve urself or at least try to in these few yrs, ur efforts alwiz never seem to materialize into the final product. i dun wan u to stay this way, whatever problems u have, u can alwiz share, but u must also be willing to change anything, to solve ur problems, otherwise things will never change for the better, and no matter how many ppl help, u will never get out of ur situation.
i have said my piece, i won't come into this thread again.
guo jiang guo jiang... bi ci bi ci... okay la... i continue MIA liao...Originally posted by IamAngeline:weidev
i start to admire ur siggy more n more
wah!!! so evil!!! so many curse!!!Originally posted by Nelstar:I curse all who partake in this. I curse everyone in this regardless of their intentions. I curse everyone including myself to the swollen and the foulest of all places. I curse all the parties involved. I curse everything that existed that held this together.
May the foulest of days be with you all whom I cursed.
I curse the very existence of the thread and the shoutbox. I curse the hands and computers that made this foul mess.
I curse all the self-righteousness. I curse all who thinks someone is to blame. I curse them all, YES all of them and myself.
BYE to those who heed my advice. BYE to those whom I cursed. BYE, may you be haunted with all of the foulest.
I shall take my long vocation from this accursed forums as long as I deemed fit. I curse the day I stepped into this accursed place to mourn a lost friend. I curse myself for returning after a big mess was over. I curse myself and all who I called friends. I curse all of you.
LET IT BE KNOWN SHOULD WE EVER CROSS PATHS AGAIN, I'LL SPIT AND SWEAR AT YOUR FEET, CURSING YOU AND I BEFORE THAT VERY GROUND, UNTIL THE DAY I DECIDE TO RETURN.
susan : whether u are the victim, or u are the villian, i dun really care, but i really wan u to wake up. we have been frens for so long, and although u did improve urself or at least try to in these few yrs, ur efforts alwiz never seem to materialize into the final product. i dun wan u to stay this way, whatever problems u have, u can alwiz share, but u must also be willing to change anything, to solve ur problems, otherwise things will never change for the better, and no matter how many ppl help, u will never get out of ur situation.Originally posted by AngelDark:hmm, i didn't get directly involved in this fiasco, but there are some pts that i think u guys shld think it over... this whole situation now resembles a mini riot, without any party having a gain.
fos n co. : u all want bear n co to apologize, but what if they dun intend to post at all? or maybe they never bothered to come into this thread to read?
yes, susan is very very easily misunderstood, as she can't express herself well, be it by words or by speech. but i really do have to conclude that she did have some weakness that incurred some thoughts of her to change in some ppl. i shan't explain more, afterall, she's still my fren.
bear n co. : words spoken can't be taken back, this is true. often we can criticise anything we dun like, and we often hurt those who can't take the criticism. i have been in situations where my words are misrepresented, and even worse still, my words are warped, twisted such that the original meaning seems to be vile. if u think of it that way, and on how strong is the command of susan's language, u shld be able to ascern the problem's surface.
i believe, however, this problem is not as simple as the surface. it is how u guys look at susan, how u guys perceive her as. no doubt we can't change the way we see ppl, but by labling her as such, in ur grp, it isn't fair to her at all.
nel: i noe ur efforts are there, to qwell this unrest, but i think the ultimatum for this matter to rest will come when fos n co. get what they want, and bear n co. do not lose what they want (all chinese want this one). but the main thing is, u posting here, is met with opposition so far, and ur comments has somehow triggered more bad blood against bear n co. i think the best course of action, is of course to let them settle it amicably, and silently. dun let this matter get even worse.
susan : whether u are the victim, or u are the villian, i dun really care, but i really wan u to wake up. we have been frens for so long, and although u did improve urself or at least try to in these few yrs, ur efforts alwiz never seem to materialize into the final product. i dun wan u to stay this way, whatever problems u have, u can alwiz share, but u must also be willing to change anything, to solve ur problems, otherwise things will never change for the better, and no matter how many ppl help, u will never get out of ur situation.
i have said my piece, i won't come into this thread again.
Weidev,Originally posted by weidev:Angel Dark also come out liao... think i shd make a cameo here too...
aiya... all this while we have been hanging out with our own groups of friends... y cares bout all this? as long as "wen xin wu kui" no worries...
AD made a gd pt... if Bear & Co. refuses to reply here... wld this thread go on forever?
All of us came from different parts of Singapore gathering here with one main purpose which is to widen our social circle... for me la at least... if i don like certain ppl... at most i don't hang ard with them lor... juz ignore la... all of u r my friends lor... it is onli hw close nia... i don wish to see my friends quarrel among themselves... erm... gif me face la... although i also nt veri big here...
Susan: remember wat i told u during ktv? every sentence carries two meanings... it onli depends on hw one looks at it... from which pt of view... not everybody can look from the same point of view as u... which in the same case goes to show that u may nt necessary look from the same pt of view as the others... "na de qi, fang de xia"... this phrase goes out to u and the bear... the following line all of us shd noe la...
Bear: if you said those words... be responsible for it... gentleman right? u r senior member liao... a certain level of reponsibility comes with it... try to take things in ur stride...
to everyone: stop adding fuel to oil... all of us r adults... nt me la... u guys la... at the direction this thread is going... hw u wan Bear to reply... he also senior member liao... at least let him do it with grace...
once again... on my account... let this thread ends with grace... shall we?
Yours truly,
weidev
Originally posted by sgboy2004:Just a few words abt my own experience...
Bear, u like to comment abt mi and poke fun at mi... to many, they would hav slammed u in the face at that very point... i chose to ignore u...and really and frankly, i choose to ignore u.
Mi pm u once to say tat we are just having fun and role-play only after u started a thread to support the demod of sgboy2004, but u acted otherwise...
I have this to say to you: " if u dun like it, get lost from here lor...nobody ask u to read or see our post... wat "beg" lah...
Last time mi and Hong hav had some misunderstanding too, and u oso put one leg in... your business meh... u r indeed a nosey parker lor... and after a while, mi and hong cleared the air and became friends again, but u...still carrying yourself with that air of arrogance around...
Bear, many pple do find u nosey, just tat they dun wanna say it out, pls stop your nonsense of going around criticizing others...on second though, maybe mi have spoilt u... to think tat others are like mi always keep quiet when being flamed at...
Oceans and FOS did just tat to retailate u in open...and mi guess more will come.
So much from the wrath of the crocodiles...
The Crocodile has spoken... evil am mi... so be it...