Blind Leads The Blind (Bear Version)
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it is not able personal attack... it is abt letting the other person know how we feel about him, hoping he will change for the better as he deem fit or otherwise...Originally posted by Nelstar:Please refrain from targetting your attacks on any personnels on any issues. Regardless of who the person is.
Arrogance has to be checked and monitored b4 it gets out of hands, at least be informed, and tat's wat many are trying to relate the message to... as simple as that...
He can choose to ignore. it is his rights, it is oso our rights to let known our grievances, and not let him go scot free for his accusations and slander which he is very prone to commit.
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cmon people, cool it lah...the more we say, the more anger we feel. If bear really had done wrong, then we just have to be a bigger person and let it go since you all have voiced ur greivances liao.
Its afterall a forum, words cant fully represent who a person is so lets just keep the good, filter the bad huh.
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Lemme rephrase again my statement. Please refrain from making any personnal attacks on any personnels in this case without any form of strong argument.Originally posted by sgboy2004:it is not able personal attack... it is abt letting the other person know how we feel about him, hoping he will change for the better as he deem fit or otherwise...
Arrogance has to be checked and monitored b4 it gets out of hands, at least be informed, and tat's wat many are trying to relate the message to... as simple as that...
He can choose to ignore. it is his rights, it is oso our rights to let known our grievances, and not let him go scot free for his accusations and slander which he is very prone to commit.
Especially in heated debate where everyone is watching. Making comments like 'hum ji' and 'xiao ren'.
I'm not for or against any party in this argument and I do not see the need to use such strong language against someone.
You can keep those taunts, and jeers to yourself. Be more considerate since you're not helping but causing unnecessary hurt to another party.
I rest my case here. Heed my advice or not, it's up to you. -
U've got a point there.Originally posted by sgboy2004:it is not able personal attack... it is abt letting the other person know how we feel about him, hoping he will change for the better as he deem fit or otherwise...
Arrogance has to be checked and monitored b4 it gets out of hands, at least be informed, and tat's wat many are trying to relate the message to... as simple as that...
He can choose to ignore. it is his rights, it is oso our rights to let known our grievances, and not let him go scot free for his accusations and slander which he is very prone to commit.
Must let the party know his behaviour is making alot of people unhappy so dat he will check on himself.....else he keep thinking he is rite keep slaming ppl anyW he like.
Hope this thread serves as a warning to tone things down on all the nasty things he's been doing....
Coz if such incident happen again...... sure a whole lot more ppl may fall victim.
Forums is for everyone....just becoz one person dun agree on others view......he dun have to slam people, flame ppl, mock ppl, accuse or say nasty things.... this is not his forum....or his house or wat. That will be a very bad taste thing to do.
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Originally posted by xking:
Whatever the shortcomings of that person, it does not constitute the necessity to taunt or jeer or making offensive remarks. That is not something that should be condoned regardless of how angry you're at someone for making whatever mistakes.
U've got a point there.
Must let the party know his behaviour is making alot of people unhappy so dat he will check on himself.....else he keep thinking he is rite keep slaming ppl anyW he like.
Hope this thread serves as a warning to tone things down on all the nasty things he's been doing....
Coz if such incident happen again...... sure a whole lot more ppl may fall victim.
[b]Forums is for everyone....just becoz one person dun agree on others view......he dun have to slam people, flame ppl, mock ppl, accuse or say nasty things.... this is not his forum....or his house or wat. That will be a very bad taste thing to do.
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dun put this on your reply to mi... it is as though mi said those things, which mi did not...Originally posted by Nelstar:Especially in heated debate where everyone is watching. Making comments like 'hum ji' and 'xiao ren'.
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Don't worry, as long as your conscience is clear. At least I replied to point out why I made that statement.Originally posted by sgboy2004:dun put this on your reply to mi... it is as though mi said those things, which mi did not... -
sad to say, not all are as educated as him to have the power to use bombastic english to wrack at pple... some of us here are chor lor pple, o level nia... and tat is the language we use in our everyday life... like it or not, it is part of our language, though mi not using them on him at all yet ...Originally posted by Nelstar:Whatever the shortcomings of that person, it does not constitute the necessity to taunt or jeer or making offensive remarks. That is not something that should be condoned regardless of how angry you're at someone for making whatever mistakes.
take it as it is the layman raw language vs those bombastical words that he has used on us...
Yes, neither will mi allow the use of vulgarity... which mi think none has yet used it explicitly on him in this thread... most hav been very civilised so far, and he should be glad tat we hav not scoup to tat level of using funny words to taint others. -
There is a fine line between understanding a statement and impressed with a statement.
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too bad, pple like mi no good english, most of the time dun understand, and dun bother to understand lor
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reserve ur thoughts to urself...Originally posted by xiao_shin:sgboy2004 agree with u.... but there is some ppl that saw the threat already but still dun wish to come out and clear the air..... so he/she rather to be "xiao ren" and pass those kind of nosy comments... u call that a gentlement???
*pui* "i call that in hokkien is "hum ji"
just my thoughts....
i believe tats not a very good translation for eng to hokkien. -
To Nelstar:-
me just log in and got ur msg... sorrie for the late reply and causing so much trouble for u and all the other guys....
okie firstly i should admit that i am a bit rash for that matter...
and is just simply i cant find another words to describle my feeling... as my education level is just N level worst than croco.... hence i am using a layman method to express my discomfort towards this incident.... sorrie if that two sentence of words offenced u all.....
Regards
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i scold Croco beforeOriginally posted by sgboy2004:
no lah, Croco O level nia... no good lah... tat's why always kenna bullied mah, ang mo no good lah
at times, it is better to let it off the chest lor... and be frank abt it, no point to hide lor...esp. standing one side and throwing lame comments tat type... mi would rather the person confront mi, solve the matter then move on... mi last time used to quarrel with some of the senior members here too...but we talk over it, give it some time and then we are ok with each other liao... tat is more realistic than go behind to curse and swear lor... liddat might be able to clear the air and even become good friends mah...
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den noti croco still provoke me when i start outing thread
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agree with Croco .... and i think that the two words i used are not consider vulgarity also... as i say b4 my educational level are just N level and not some U-grad or what ever sh1t.. so i only noe how to use ah beng way to express myself....Originally posted by sgboy2004:sad to say, not all are as educated as him to have the power to use bombastic english to wrack at pple... some of us here are chor lor pple, o level nia... and tat is the language we use in our everyday life... like it or not, it is part of our language, though mi not using them on him at all yet ...
take it as it is the layman raw language vs those bombastical words that he has used on us...
Yes, neither will mi allow the use of vulgarity... which mi think none has yet used it explicitly on him in this thread... most hav been very civilised so far, and he should be glad tat we hav not scoup to tat level of using funny words to taint others.
i hope like what croco say that we will be civilised all the way until this issue is resolved or the "person involved dare to have to the guts to step in here and calmy talks things out.... -
Originally posted by F.O.S:
For those whom knows what happen. Please read whats going on and comment.
1st incident happens 7 May 2004 which is abt 11 days ago, thought the case was closed, please read second message which I think the orignial version was twisted. Those whom seen the live firing please advise and comment.
7 May 2004 in Shout box
thhong22> susan> i don need u to teach me wat to do.... itÂ’s my life.... i control it.... i do it the way i wan....
MeOwSuSan> Sorry to tell you hong lor ... I donÂ’t control you ... it I kpo try to help...sad to say ... you ask for it canÂ’t be help ... very thankful for listening "hong" ....
thhong22> i ask for wat? y the "hong"?
susan> anyway thanx for ur advice.... i noe wat to do myself
MeOwSuSan> GOOD .... Hope you see light one day ....sweet dream ... ALL the best "HONG"
MeOwSuSan> LOVE and LIGHT is alway there may the good heart seen them soon ....
y mus put " "???? iÂ’m hong, not "hong"
thhong22> don tell me wat love, light, god, angel.... i don believe n i don wan listen..... u talk like oceanos... i don like
thhong22> iÂ’m this straight forward... go tell him if u wan... flame me all he wan.... i don care
MeOwSuSan> I not him ... "hong" I have seen Angel so I belive there is .... I canÂ’t belive at first but now i but ...
MeOwSuSan> Angel and fairlys only can seen by people who have a heart of LOVE...
thhong22> iÂ’m HONG not "HONG".... i don need the " "
the Bear> brainwashing comes to those who want to be brainwashed.. remember that everyone...
yah yah... i not love, cos iÂ’m heartless
the Bear> and it seems like some, are lost because they feel they have to be lost...
thhong22> well said bear.........
MeOwSuSan> " hong" mean you are special .... so is how you see yourself to be ...
the Bear> "susan".. you seem to be unable to think for yourself...
iÂ’m juz hong.... no need to be "hong"... iÂ’m juz a common normal gal.... nothing special....
"susan"... stop jumping and clinging onto others, behave your age and take responsibility for your own actions rather than follow blindly...
Who hurt who , who trying to help who?
Merry Meet to all,
Just came to know of such a thread, again i feel a need to speak up when it has reached the Limits of One's Tolerance. Let all be the Judge pertaining to all these issues, kindly express your views about it, you need not make a stand or show any support in any ways, just your views In all conscience are needed regardless adverse or positive!
From the above excerpts of the conversation, it clearly shown how "Meowsusan" being vituperate by villiany of 2 latters whom she took as friends! What is their motive? Is it a ploy to hurt Meowsusan? Who is the Instigator/puppeteer behind all these? Who is the puppet? Are Man "Puppet of Society" or Simply "A pawn of One's own staged drama"? As Human of sentient mind & capable of cognitive process, i am sure after reading these, everyone will already have the "Answers" in their mind! Substantial Evidences has already surfaced which is undeniable! Sad to know again my name "Oceanos" has been mention by people who seek to maleficiate & asperse me! Anyway my conscience is clear & No "Evil" shalt harm me, Let the Omnipresent Holy Spirit be my Judge! The Start & End parts highlighted in "DarkRed" has shown such contradictory in its representation, One said literally "No need any teachings from anyone coz its their life, has all Individuality & Rights" however the other just attempt to teach & cohere another Individual who possess the same Rights towards his own beliefs & values, what do you make of such incoherent actions & words? Is there Integrity or Justice? The others highlighted in "Red" in my own perceptive, i deemed that as an "personal attack" on our helpless friend Meowsusan here who are being aggressed due to her poor command of language & kind personality!
I just saw Meowsusan this evening during a coffee session organised by another forumite which she also been invited. She seems rather mentally disturbed, depressed & stressed up which i felt very sorry for her unfortunate predicaments, at a point of time she even breakdown in tears while she relate this matter to us. So i hope all here will be the witness that if any mishaps occurs to Meowsusan, all will know who are the "Ones" who cause such harm to her! I am sure all who know Meowsusan personally or been in touch with her recently can see the Toils & Effects on her mind & body because of the issues that occurred over the past month has greatly traumatised & affected her health! That further prompted me to speak up for her since the existence of this thread!
To the people who has been casting aspersion maliciously of me, i reserve all the rights to take civil actions against you for defamation according to UK Defamation Act 1996 which our country legislation is adhering! What is "Defamation" in layman terms "Libel is the written word." & "Slander is spoken." Libel is when the defamation is written down (including email, bulletin boards and websites), and slander is when the incident relates to words spoken. I give you the benefit of doubt that your actions are not of such intents & I do not want to see anymore new inputs of such contents in any ways & avenues! i beseech you to stop & rectify such acts & deeds or be prepared to get my lawyer letter, we shall have it rectify in Singapore Subordinate court!
Singapore's law of libel protects all persons against unjustified attacks on their reputation. A person is libeled if the words expose him (or her) to the risk of being: hated, ridiculed, or viewed with contempt, or shunned or avoided, or lowered in the standing of right thinking members of society, or discredited in his trade, business, office, or profession.
Last but not least, i would like to thank F.O.S for starting this thread for the benefit of Masses' awareness & to redress grievances for our unfortunate friend, Meowsusan! Brightest Blessing for all good & kind fellow forumites who stand up against all wrongs, accusations & injustices brought upon our poor Victim of Other's aggression which has already happened...Yes in here...
Blessed Be,
Oceanos -
Mr. gasband,Originally posted by gasband:cmon people, cool it lah...the more we say, the more anger we feel. If bear really had done wrong, then we just have to be a bigger person and let it go since you all have voiced ur greivances liao.
Its afterall a forum, words cant fully represent who a person is so lets just keep the good, filter the bad huh.
Is either you are friend of the forest or you havn't get it from him before. This is not the first time and I am not the only one.
I just don't wish to see you Mr. Gasband be the next one to get it . -
Nelstar,Originally posted by Nelstar:Lemme rephrase again my statement. Please refrain from making any personnal attacks on any personnels in this case without any form of strong argument.
Especially in heated debate where everyone is watching. Making comments like 'hum ji' and 'xiao ren'.
I'm not for or against any party in this argument and I do not see the need to use such strong language against someone.
You can keep those taunts, and jeers to yourself. Be more considerate since you're not helping but causing unnecessary hurt to another party.
I rest my case here. Heed my advice or not, it's up to you.
you ever come across that Bear calling ppl Brain Damage?
"use your brain" , "think" or suffer from @#$%$#@@# ".
Does that mean any better ?
I guess Nelstar you might be good in English that you think his words don't mean anything.
Xiao Shin say "hum Ji" is = food , and Xiao Ren mean little boy in china .
So if you guy want and like to twisted your words SPEAK Chinese to me.
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i dn like to eat hum ji peng.....v oily.....nwadays nt much ppl sellin hum ji peng liao
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Gentlebear???????????????????????????????????
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Hum ji peng????Originally posted by Ah Ma:i dn like to eat hum ji peng.....v oily.....nwadays nt much ppl sellin hum ji peng liao
Got sell "ang ku kuey" bo????
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To Bear:-
Now the tide is turning against u... so how u feel?? when everybody slamming u.... suffering in pain?? so bear have u ever think of this before when u are making those type of comments and slamming other people, what will the other person feels... u and ur groups are happily slamming at 1 person..... but have u really think of what the person is feeling at the current suitation....... no??? then i can tell u that.... whether u or your groups of pple under u are reading this post anot... or they inform u of the existance of this thread.... the feeling is definately miserable... as what "she" is feeling right now... u and ur groups of pple are building ur happiness on her pain..... that is not what a "so called" gentlement or big brother should do......
This is all i have to say.... if u and ur groups of friends still dun have the courage to step in here to sincerely talk things out or apologise to her..... i dun think you deserve to be respect and call urself a gentlement.... If u wan pple to respect u as a gentlement then do what u deem fit.... If not then u can jolly well take out the "pic of the Bear" and the word gentlement.... and get out of here...
PS: If bear did not know the existance of this thread, can his counterparts pls inform him the existance of this thread and inform him to come in and clear things out.... b4 things really get out of hands....
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paisey double post..
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nevermind sleep.. check out what susan just wrote and i rest my case... susan, delude yourself all you want.. your friend was not evil yet you treated her like she was scum.. and you HURT her feelings.. even tho she never told you about it. chew on that!!
Sorry "the bear" is she evil a not she know ....
She had hurt me by say behind me , i already forgive her but she start again by spreading words of evil of me ... and harm my other friends.
NOW who is EVIL???
I do not harm people till my tail been step ... she want to have war with all she will have it. -
Nelstar ...Originally posted by Nelstar:Lemme rephrase again my statement. Please refrain from making any personnal attacks on any personnels in this case without any form of strong argument.
Especially in heated debate where everyone is watching. Making comments like 'hum ji' and 'xiao ren'.
I'm not for or against any party in this argument and I do not see the need to use such strong language against someone.
You can keep those taunts, and jeers to yourself. Be more considerate since you're not helping but causing unnecessary hurt to another party.
I rest my case here. Heed my advice or not, it's up to you.
I got bully by xiao ren and not just infront, behind to... so you ask me to sit there wait till I die of bleeding .... not fair to ME!!!!!!! -
Originally posted by OCEANOS:
THANK YOU!!! Brother .... I very thankful to all who stand up here to speech I hurt... because evil words being spread on me and on all my friends too...
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Merry Meet to all,
Just came to know of such a thread, again i feel a need to speak up when it has reached the Limits of One's Tolerance. Let all be the Judge pertaining to all these issues, kindly express your views about it, you need not make a stand or show any support in any ways, just your views In all conscience are needed regardless adverse or positive!
From the above excerpts of the conversation, it clearly shown how "Meowsusan" being vituperate by villiany of 2 latters whom she took as friends! What is their motive? Is it a ploy to hurt Meowsusan? Who is the Instigator/puppeteer behind all these? Who is the puppet? Are Man "Puppet of Society" or Simply "A pawn of One's own staged drama"? As Human of sentient mind & capable of cognitive process, i am sure after reading these, everyone will already have the "Answers" in their mind! Substantial Evidences has already surfaced which is undeniable! Sad to know again my name "Oceanos" has been mention by people who seek to maleficiate & asperse me! Anyway my conscience is clear & No "Evil" shalt harm me, Let the Omnipresent Holy Spirit be my Judge! The Start & End parts highlighted in "DarkRed" has shown such contradictory in its representation, One said literally "No need any teachings from anyone coz its their life, has all Individuality & Rights" however the other just attempt to teach & cohere another Individual who possess the same Rights towards his own beliefs & values, what do you make of such incoherent actions & words? Is there Integrity or Justice? The others highlighted in "Red" in my own perceptive, i deemed that as an "personal attack" on our helpless friend Meowsusan here who are being aggressed due to her poor command of language & kind personality!
I just saw Meowsusan this evening during a coffee session organised by another forumite which she also been invited. She seems rather mentally disturbed, depressed & stressed up which i felt very sorry for her unfortunate predicaments, at a point of time she even breakdown in tears while she relate this matter to us. So i hope all here will be the witness that if any mishaps occurs to Meowsusan, all will know who are the "Ones" who cause such harm to her! I am sure all who know Meowsusan personally or been in touch with her recently can see the Toils & Effects on her mind & body because of the issues that occurred over the past month has greatly traumatised & affected her health! That further prompted me to speak up for her since the existence of this thread!
To the people who has been casting aspersion maliciously of me, i reserve all the rights to take civil actions against you for defamation according to UK Defamation Act 1996 which our country legislation is adhering! What is "Defamation" in layman terms "Libel is the written word." & "Slander is spoken." Libel is when the defamation is written down (including email, bulletin boards and websites), and slander is when the incident relates to words spoken. I give you the benefit of doubt that your actions are not of such intents & I do not want to see anymore new inputs of such contents in any ways & avenues! i beseech you to stop & rectify such acts & deeds or be prepared to get my lawyer letter, we shall have it rectify in Singapore Subordinate court!
Singapore's law of libel protects all persons against unjustified attacks on their reputation. A person is libeled if the words expose him (or her) to the risk of being: hated, ridiculed, or viewed with contempt, or shunned or avoided, or lowered in the standing of right thinking members of society, or discredited in his trade, business, office, or profession.
Last but not least, i would like to thank F.O.S for starting this thread for the benefit of Masses' awareness & to redress grievances for our unfortunate friend, Meowsusan! Brightest Blessing for all good & kind fellow forumites who stand up against all wrongs, accusations & injustices brought upon our poor Victim of Other's aggression which has already happened...Yes in here...
Blessed Be,
Oceanos [/b]