Budget Jet crashed in Thailand
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wasnt there a silkair that crashed in thai/indon? around 6 years ago?
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Originally posted by Pitot:shld i laugh or cry at the misconceptions?
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One-Two-GO Airlines, a budget offshoot subsidiary of Orient Thai Airways.Originally posted by monoslayer:which airline huh? -
SilkAir Boeing 737-300. Crashed into the Musi River in Palembang, Indonesia. That was in December 1997.Originally posted by LyonK:wasnt there a silkair that crashed in thai/indon? around 6 years ago? -
always take SIA ..
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truely a sad accident...
my deepest sympathies and condolences to all those involved...
hope the cause of the error can be found and measures put in place to ensure that it won't happen again...
let's not point our fingers so quickly even before investigations have started. -
These kind of news always wrench my heart... May the Lord watch over the victim's families, they must be devastated... -
Erm... Accidents are common...
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Why the jet breaks into two? Lousy material? Cannot withstand the landing impact?
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Quick summary
Eighty-seven passengers and crew are confirmed dead from yesterdayÂ’s (16 September) crash on landing of a One-Two-Go Boeing MD-82 on the Thai resort island of Phuket.
Rescue officials in Phuket say 87 of the 130 passengers and crew on board the 24-year-old MD-82 are confirmed to have died in the crash while 43 people are being treated in hospital. Some of the survivors have life-threatening injuries.
An official at One-Two-GoÂ’s crisis hotline in Bangkok says two of the 43 survivors are cabin crew and the rest are passengers. She says that on board the aircraft were 123 passengers and seven crewmembers, 78 of them foreign nationals. Both pilots and three of the five flight attendants were killed.
The airline official says the MD-82 was operating as flight OG269 from BangkokÂ’s secondary Don Muang airport. It departed Bangkok at around 14:30 and its scheduled arrival time was 15:50.
The aircraft ran off the runway on landing in heavy rain, breaking apart and bursting into flames.
One-Two-Go launched four years ago as Thailand’s first low-cost carrier, operating MD-80-series and Boeing 747 ‘Classic’ aircraft on domestic routes. It is a subsidiary of Orient Thai Airlines, which mainly operates international services.
The One-Two-Go official says the MD-82 was registered as HS-OMG. According to FlightÂ’s ACAS database, HS-OMG was built in November 1983 and was originally operated by the former Trans World Airlines. It had a manufacturerÂ’s serial number of 49183.
Powered by Pratt & Whitney JT8D-217 engines, the aircraft had only been in service with One-Two-Go since March this year, when it was purchased by parent company Orient Thai.
ACAS shows that as of November last year the aircraft had accumulated nearly 63,000 flight hours and more than 33,000 takeoffs and landings. -
condolences to the families of the dead.
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Got singaporeans or not?
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Well, because i know pilots who pilot them and they tell me about their maintenance issues. Not to mention , when i first flew it... i dont know what happened , there were sounds from the back of the plane , n somemore , it flew into turbulence , i am not talking about frontal.. i am talking about turbulence hitting the back of the plane. Tail end. I thought the plane broke in half and the 3 female passengers beside me started crying and freaking out.... after that.. thats it. I be honest.. i freaked out.. and thought that was it. lol. Now THAT is shocks that shorten ur lifespan!Originally posted by Superbus:I respect your opinion. But your statement does not sound fair to the budget airlines in general.
It just happens that the aircraft that crashed belongs to a budget carrier. Remember SQ 006? It crashed during a typhoon, and belonged to one of the most reputable carriers in the world. But to say then that SIA isn't safe is unfair. Same goes to the budget carriers around the world. Budget carriers are relatively safe. But there are certain carriers that you may need to keep out.
Thats why to be safe and to have a lower chance of technical failures and sudden mishaps , i prefer NOT to fly budget airlines. After weighting the problems and seeing quite a few budget airline planes crashing around the world.
I know it doesnt sound fair in general to ALL budget airlines, but most of those that crashed due to something wrong with the plane were budget airlines.
Taiwan case for SQ was due to human error on the runway. And its 1 case in the history of SIA right ?
True there are some budge airlines we have to watch out. But to me , if i can , i would fly the normal ones lo. -
Now, that's one hell of a "freaking" experience!Originally posted by BadzMaro:Well, because i know pilots who pilot them and they tell me about their maintenance issues. Not to mention , when i first flew it... i dont know what happened , there were sounds from the back of the plane , n somemore , it flew into turbulence , i am not talking about frontal.. i am talking about turbulence hitting the back of the plane. Tail end. I thought the plane broke in half and the 3 female passengers beside me started crying and freaking out.... after that.. thats it. I be honest.. i freaked out.. and thought that was it. lol. Now THAT is shocks that shorten ur lifespan! Haha.
Air Asia should be alright. Their CEO, Tony Fernandez is too shrewd of a boss to let any incidents happen. What's more they have upgraded a lot of their fleet from 737s to the new Airbus 320. Nice and comfy
Can't say the same for Adam Air and Garuda. Indonesians seem to always have a problem with safety. It's ingrained in their culture. -
that has to be one of my MOST shocking moment man. Faced with ppl with parang chop u, still not THAT bad.. can run , fight back or whatever. That one was totally.. HELPLESS..Originally posted by Rock^Star:Now, that's one hell of a "freaking" experience! Haha.
Air Asia should be alright. Their CEO, Tony Fernandez is too shrewd of a boss to let any incidents happen. What's more they have upgraded a lot of their fleet from 737s to the new Airbus 320. Nice and comfy
Can't say the same for Adam Air and Garuda. Indonesians seem to always have a problem with safety. It's ingrained in their culture.
Not even as bad as when i drift my car almost went over the cliff when back wheels bumped a lump and left the ground!
Ya..Garuda is bad... but AirAsia hopefully lo.. sometimes its up to the person in charge to be cost effective.. or later.. tooo cost effective that it may jeapordise human lives lo. -
I guess people will always believe budget airlines are cutting corners and stuff, so they can't be as safe.
But, taken from http://www.budgetairlineguide.com/budget-airlines-safety
"The perception that budget flights are inherently less safe than full service flights is a difficult one for low cost carriers to erase, so budget airlines are hyper sensitive about maintaining their reputation and flight safety record. They realize that an accident would be a disaster for their company in every sense of the word. As such, budget airlines strive to have flawless safety records rather than considering any compromise on safety in order to cut costs."
If I were in their shoes, I'd say that really makes sense.
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Sad day for all citizens of thailand...
Are we advancing to a higher technology too fast that we tend to miss out the things that are old...
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What do maintenance issues have to do with an accident that was, by all accounts, caused by attempting to land an aircraft in severely inclement weather?
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My sentiments, exactly.Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:What do maintenance issues have to do with an accident that was, by all accounts, caused by attempting to land an aircraft in severely inclement weather? -
PASSENGER MANIFEST
123 passengers on board Flight OG 269, operated by airline One-Two-Go
* denotes those who have been confirmed survived or hospitalised.
1.Mr Werner Adelhardt
2.Ms Lily Alon
3.Mr Alain Bembaron
4.Mrs Brigitte Bino
5.Mr Itzhak Biton
6.Mr Alexius Boerkamp*
7.Mr Jeanmarie Bonachera
8.Mrs Josiane Bonachera
9.Mr Chawapon Boonmeechai
10.Mrs Wanaporn Boonsung
11.Mr Robert Borland*
12.Mr Philippe Bregeard
13.Mr William Burke*
14.Mr Sinchai Chaiarun
15.Mr Jakkapon Chairitinanon
16.Mr Parinyawith Choosang*
17.Mr Alexander Collins
18.Mr Chirstopher Cooley*
19.Mr Jesada Dechakul
20.Mr Colin Denny
21.Mrs Sawitree Denny*
22.Ms Hofit Eliya
23.Mr Christoph Falchetti*
24.Mr Michael Falcone
25.Mrs Mahsa Fatoorehchi*
26.Ms Arisa Fayad
27.Ms Tal Feldman
28.Ms Isabella Freylikhman*
29.Mr Vladimir Freylikhman*
30.Ms Anne Furlong*
31.Mrs Laetitia Gambu
32.Ms Hila Gershoni
33.Mr Saeid Ghayoumi
34.Ms Sansa Ghayoumi
35.Mr Scott Harrow*
36.Ms Madia Hashemi*
37.Mr Parviz Hashemi*
38.Mr Peter Hill*
39.Mrs Susan Howell
40.Mrs Sara Izadine
41.Chawit Jitjamnong*
42.Mr Chowalert Jitjamnong*
43.Mrs Siriphut Jitjamnong
44.Mr Alireza Jodatfar
45.Mr Jahangir Jodatfar
46.Mr Mohammadreza Jodatfar
47.Ms Bethan Jones
48.Mr Simon Jonsson
49.Ms Khatha Kanchanasutha
50.Mrs Ladda Khawnoun*
51.Mr Nong Khawnoun*
52.Mr Nasser Bonab
53.Ms Mehrana Movahed*
54.Mr Abbas Movahed*
55.Ms Mullika Koysin
56.Mr Chakart Kulwanich
57.Ms Pratin Lainjumroon*
58.Mr Thibaud Lamere
59.Mr Sudprasong Laosiriwut
60.Mr Likhit Liengphansakul*
61.Ms Fermina ******e
62.Mr Henri ******e
63.Mr Chainarong Maharae*
64.Mr Porrawit Mahasup*
65.Mr Teerayuth Manoorakchinakorn
66.Mr Christopher Markensven*
67.Mr Jacques Marnef
68.Ms Kaninnat Martmuang
69.Ms Wantana Meesang
70.Ms Amnuj Meesil
71.Ms Maryam Taheri*
72.Ms Mojgan Mohebbianjedani
73.Ms Fereshteh Mokhlesukhchi
74.Mr Brain Mullery
75.Mr Di Naima
76.Ms Rotem Naouri
77.Mr Erik Nihler
78.Mr John O'Donnell*
79.Mrs Homeira Omdeekhodaitehrani
80.Mrs Pranee Panyakong
81.Mr Paiboon Phaphan*
82.Mr Sanya Phromarak
83.Mr Rasqul Pourmehr
84.Mr Mahmoud Pourmehr
85.Mr Suchip Prantoon
86.Ms Puengboon Ratnadilok na Phuket
87.Mr Raj Rattanaphon
88.Ms Claudia Rothmann*
89.Mr Clemens Rothmann*
90.Mr Pichai Rueathong
91.Mr Mehoi Safaebtabrizi
92.Ms Cho Safaebtabrizi
93.Mr Hossein Safaebtabrizi
94.Mr Thanavut Saikay
95.Ms Fahimeh Salek
96.Ms Linnea Sandberg
97.Ms Patcharin Sattayapongsaporn
98.Mr Stephen Saunby
99.Ms Busakon Saunjarun
100.Ms Sabine Schumacher
101.Ms Supalak Shueaw
102.Mrs Benchawan Sichaiin
103.Mr Witchupol Singhapol*
104.Mrs Helen Slater
105.Mr Neil Slater
106.Mr Marcel Squinobal*
107.Mr Chatree Suksawas*
108.Mr Somphot Sungkhaphong
109.Ms Jiranuch Suwannarat
110.Mr Farshas Tazhibi
111.Mrs Yajai Thanyakarn
112.Ms Rachel Toland
113.Mr Aaron Toland
114.Mr Apichai Trompronpitakkul
115.Mrs Siriluk Tuptanee
116.Mr Sirikorn Unsakul
117.Mrs Somluk Unsakul
118.Mr Meysam Valaie
119.Mr Benjamin Voigtmann*
120.Mr Francis Weston
121.Mrs Mary Weston
122.Ms Marie Whittington*
123.Mr Stefan Woronoff
Important telephone numbers:
One-Two-Go Hotline 1126
Bangkok Phuket Hospital 076-254421-9
Siriroj Hospital 076-249400
Vajira Phuket Hospital 076-361234
Mission Phuket Hospital 076-237220-9
Thalang Hospital 076-311033
British Embassy's emergency centre 02-3058333 -
So exciting one huh, your life?Originally posted by BadzMaro:that has to be one of my MOST shocking moment man. Faced with ppl with parang chop u, still not THAT bad.. can run , fight back or whatever. That one was totally.. HELPLESS..
Not even as bad as when i drift my car almost went over the cliff when back wheels bumped a lump and left the ground!
Ya..Garuda is bad... but AirAsia hopefully lo.. sometimes its up to the person in charge to be cost effective.. or later.. tooo cost effective that it may jeapordise human lives lo. Almost fell off a cliff LOL. -
a boring life is not worth living at all..Originally posted by Rock^Star:So exciting one huh, your life? Almost fell off a cliff LOL.
but the drifting part was just driving up Cashmere hills.. yeah.. that one also almost heart attack.. i drove relatively slow back that night,. -
The c.ockpit voice and flight data recorders have only just been found....not deciphered yet.Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:What do maintenance issues have to do with an accident that was, by all accounts, caused by attempting to land an aircraft in severely inclement weather?
In any case, if the weather at landing airfield was really so bad, the pilot should have just diverted or held on first. No sane pilot would land a plane under such adverse conditions and jeopardise the lives of his passengers.
Having said that, the botched landing could then have been due to aircraft malfunction.
Well, the analysis will be out soon. -
yup.
maybe at that critical moment something did not function according to the specifications.. -
from the description it seemed to be affected by a downburst.