not whether what i want to believe, but the 'facts' dont corroborate, i want to believe also hard
Originally posted by laurence82:not whether what i want to believe, but the 'facts' dont corroborate, i want to believe also hard
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Gonorrhea is named after Gomorrah.
oh my goodness, you are so creative!
Yesterday I was watching CNA on pilgrimage to Israel. The christian mentioned about Christ had paid penalty for sins for the people. I know there are many christians take advantage on this and go on to do evil to harm both christians and non christians. The best is God still condone these evil actions of the evil christians, i shake my head!
Originally posted by Fantagf:
oh my goodness, you are so creative!
Not really, that is a medical fact.
Originally posted by laurence82:not whether what i want to believe, but the 'facts' dont corroborate, i want to believe also hard
the thing is its too simple lar. everything use god to explain, is getting stale and boring, dun u reckon so? Q: Why did he die early? A: Its god's will.......zzzzzzzzz...there is no need to conduct experiments and observations, cos everything can use god to explain. there will never be progress in society and everyone will behave and think the same. just accept Jesus and you will go to heaven.
Originally posted by Fantagf:Yesterday I was watching CNA on pilgrimage to Israel. The christian mentioned about Christ had paid penalty for sins for the people. I know there are many christians take advantage on this and go on to do evil to harm both christians and non christians. The best is God still condone these evil actions of the evil christians, i shake my head!
how do you ask something to condone when it does not exists?
ron "..everything use god to explain.."
Yeah...heavily reply on god say this and that....one action...sure say GOD cause this and that....that action...sure say GOD cause this and that....aiyo...chialet laio.
thats right. I personally cannot accept it and I am sure there are many others also could not accept it. but that said, there will be many others who do not have any qualms accepting it. all its needed is a strong faith and no questions asked. if you have any doubts, that means your faith is not strong. how can you have doubts on god or Jesus?
I ever read somewhere thru the pages that someone said something like....."feel or closer to the GOD"......
My question : How close is closer to the GOD?
And somewhere at this forum, someone said : "talk to the GOD"...
My question: In your dream? Or in reality?
Let me explain the origination of religion, how did religion first came about initially.
Primitive ancient people that time were living in caves, hills and mountains, they do not know that natural phenomena like lighting, thunders, earthquakes, floods etc are not acts of god. their lifestyles were hunting, eating their hunt, protecting their tribes and procreation. so they begun to think that there must be a god, if not who are creating all these natural diasters. so they begun praying to Sun, Moon, rivers, sky to seek their protection and create less disasters. they thought that by praying and worshipping, the Sun/moon god will be appeased and will bless their tribe. as people evolved and the worshipping progressed, some even took it to sacrifising of animals and later humans to appease the god. Here the concept of god was based on fear, as they are unable to understand these are not acts of god, but natural phenomenon.
Hi Ron...thanks for your input. Agreed with the word: FEAR...
the chinese also do the same thing. they bring ducks, oranges, apples, bananas to the temple and then pray to the idol that may I strike 4-D, get good health, get a nice wife/hubby etc etc. christians prayed to god also same thing, may I marry a nice girl, may I have a pay raise, may I pass my exams with flying colours etc etc
The gods are all eternal scoundrels
Incapable of dissolving the suffering of impermanence.
Those who serve them and venerate them
May even in this world sink into a sea of sorrow.
We know the gods are false and have no concrete being;
Therefore the wise man believes them not
The fate of the world depends on causes and conditions
Therefore the wise man many not rely on gods.
Nagarjuna the Indian philosopher of the 2nd century CE
Yes RON. All religion the same. They do the same. But certain religion is very extreme. They blast and bombarded other religions eg) hey your figurine looks scary and ugly...etc.... that is no good.
If one believe one's religion, be its own. And dont preach or approach pple or say other religion ugly or terrible.
Do something must have reason right? Not always GOD say this, Bible say this...then all follow...aimlessly,
Originally posted by likeyou:Hi Ron...thanks for your input. Agreed with the word: FEAR...
pleasure. there is another one on fear.
Primitive man found himself in a dangerous and hostile world, the fear of wild animals, of not being able to find enough food, of injury or disease, and of natural phenomena like thunder, lightning and volcanoes was constantly with him. Finding no security, he created the idea of gods in order to give him comfort in good times, courage in times of danger and consolation when things went wrong. To this day, you will notice that people become more religious at times of crises, you will hear them say that the belief in a god or gods gives them the strength they need to deal with life. You will hear them explain that they believe in a particular god because they prayed in time of need and their prayer was answered.
Agreed with RON. I ever too when I am really down, I seek GODs solace. But never go and tell pple like : GOD give me strength, GOD hear me speak, GOD speak to me...." NO, never.....that is me and never go and tell pple all those. Except certain extreme pple.
if there is a god, we will not be living in such a miserable conditions on earth, agreed?
no wars, no diseases, no starvation, no genocide etc etc.
Yeah, peace...no materialistic mind, nothing...peace......
Originally posted by Dawnfirstlight:Hi Laurence, this guy's motive is obvious. He wants to stop the discussion. Just ignore him and don't fall into his trap. Treat his posting as invisible, let him talk to thin air. Anyway, I have nothing more to say about this topic. What I need to say is already said. Merry X'mas and Happy New Year to you guys!
What is your motive then? Conspire with that head banging off the prayer mat shim to discredit the bible?
This topic is stupid, there is no defination of real and fake religion.
Originally posted by googoomuck:What is your motive then? Conspire with that head banging off the prayer mat shim to discredit the bible?
Hey the sodomising gay-bashing gay xtian is back!!!
Originally posted by HeartHunter:This topic is stupid, there is no defination of real and fake religion.
Well, you are right, but not for religious fundamentalists
Everything outside of what they believe is falsehood and false worshipping. We have duty as citizens of multi religious multi racial country to stamp out such nuisance
Sigh
Social-responsible person huh... rare breed if exist in reality...
Problem is that the topic didn't explain why christianity is a real religion, no arguments and no stands involved.
I was left hanging with a christmas story..............
TS must have low IQ (personal evaluation).
If TS had defined what is REAL and why is it REAL, this topic would be legit and feedbacks would allow me to gain insight....
....but the feedbacks I see here, are dumb, must be alot of dumb people around.
Originally posted by HeartHunter:Social-responsible person huh... rare breed if exist in reality...
Problem is that the topic didn't explain why christianity is a real religion, no arguments and no stands involved.
I was left hanging with a christmas story..............
TS must have low IQ (personal evaluation).
If TS had defined what is REAL and why is it REAL, this topic would be legit and feedbacks would allow me to gain insight....
....but the feedbacks I see here, are dumb, must be alot of dumb people around.
Well i wouldnt say rare breed
If its rare breed then Singapore would be run over by religious fundamentalists long time ago, just like what happened to AWARE
You are right, topic is dumb anyway