To that rider!!!!
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yes post his lic and shame him or better, we be wary of him!! even rapists get shamed in newspapers nowadays..haha..Originally posted by GroundZero:Yah, me ok.... juz scratches here and there. LUckily i was wearing a jacket.
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ask a qns, y u indians like to haf chinese gfs?Originally posted by yahoo.com:aiyo.. y not just post his bike no? he deserves to be ashamed in public man. then only next time ppl can 'siam' him. me also indian with chinese gf. wait suddenly ppl think its me when they see me on the road>? haha.. but anyway i dun ride a tzm. just post his lic so that we can avoid this bugger lah!! -
is that a crime? y not u go ask those chinese gals why they like to choose indian ?Originally posted by milkshake:ask a qns, y u indians like to haf chinese gfs?
i guess u must haf a problem else y u ask this kinda qn?
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milkshake ah... how can u ask qn like dat.... if u like a girl, means u like her lor... no matter wat race, language or religion. My chinese friend got malay bf, n my Indian friend got malay gf.... doesn't matter lor... some prefer their own race lah but this is Sg man, multi-racial... but d qn u shud be asking hah, is y so many Sg man here, but still some girls like to go for ang mohs? (no offence to any ang mohs) funny rite?
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cool man.. u more frenly then the other guy... or maybe i read that guy's msg in a provocative tone. anyways.. i just wanna see what is his reply. if u do know him.. can u like sms him and tell him that i waiting for his reply? thanks.. i keep refreshing the page but to my dismay he haven reply!! whaha.. i cant stay in sch for much longer...! thanks dude!Originally posted by GroundZero:milkshake ah... how can u ask qn like dat.... if u like a girl, means u like her lor... no matter wat race, language or religion. My chinese friend got malay bf, n my Indian friend got malay gf.... doesn't matter lor... some prefer their own race lah but this is Sg man, multi-racial... but d qn u shud be asking hah, is y so many Sg man here, but still some girls like to go for ang mohs? (no offence to any ang mohs) funny rite? -
Relac leh yahoo... I think he just ask for fun sia...... He is a cockster.... dun mind ok? Dun start another flaming here..... BTW, it not good to post other's number here.... If people blow you and you decide to open your trottle, then just open, if you dun wanna play, then dun play.... dun need to see number first one right?
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Relac leh yahoo... I think he just ask for fun sia...... He is a cockster.... dun mind ok? Dun start another flaming here..... BTW, it not good to post other's number here.... If people blow you and you decide to open your trottle, then just open, if you dun wanna play, then dun play.... dun need to see number first one right?Originally posted by aaron017:Relac leh yahoo... I think he just ask for fun sia...... He is a cockster.... dun mind ok? Dun start another flaming here..... BTW, it not good to post other's number here.... If people blow you and you decide to open your trottle, then just open, if you dun wanna play, then dun play.... dun need to see number first one right?
dun worry dude! i m not in here to start a flame war. as u can see.. my posts haf been very fair( or so i think ). i am revisiting this forum after so long as i find that the flames have all gone. anyways i promise not to make it a flame ok? i j ust wanna know what he, milkshake meant by his words. i am tired of reading and writing flames also.
i wanted the no plate just so that next time can watch out mah. i prefer not to play with bikes on the road nowadays as i feel its a waste of time. also only ignorant ppl come and jio me now to which i ignore lor. but seldom only ppl jio me coz i dun go out at nite for a very long time oledi. hope the chionging at nite will be revitalised once i finish my bloody project. sianz...
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THE STREET IS NOT A TRACK - IT'S A PLACE TO PACE
TWO WEEKS AGO A rider died when he and his bike
tumbled off a cliff paralleling our favourite road. No
gravel in the road, no oncoming car pushing him wide,
no ice. The guy screwed up. Rider error. Too much
enthusiasm with too little skill, and this fatality
wasn't the first on this road this year. As with most
single-bike accidents, the rider entered the corner at
a speed his brain told him was too fast, stood the
bike up and nailed the rear brake. Goodbye
On the racetrack this rider would have tumbled into
the hay bales, visited the ambulance for a strip of
gauze and headed back to the pits to straighten his
handlebars and think about his mistake. But let's get
one thing perfectly clear: the street is not the
racetrack. Using it as such will shorten your riding
career and keep you from discovering the Pace.
The Pace is far from street racing-and a lot more fun.
The Pace places the motorcycle in its proper role as
the controlled vehicle, not the controlling vehicle.
Too many riders of sport bikes become baggage when the
throttle gets twisted-the ensuing speed is so
overwhelming they are carried along in the rush.
The Pace ignores outright speed and can be as much fun
on a Ninja 250 as on a ZX-11, emphasizing rider skill
over right-wrist bravado. A fool can twist the grip,
but a fool has no idea how to stop or turn. Learning
to stop will save your life; learning to turn will
enrich it. What feels better than banking a motorcycle
into a corner?
The mechanics of turning a motorcycle involve pushing
and/or pulling on the handlebars; while this isn't new
information for most sport riders, realize that the
force at the handlebar affects the motorcycle's rate
of turn-in. Shove hard on the bars, and the bike snaps
over; gently push the bars, and the bike lazily banks
in.
Different corners require different techniques, but as
you begin to think about lines, late entrances and
late apexes, turning your bike at the exact moment and
reaching the precise lean angle will require firm,
forceful inputs at the handlebars.
If you take less time to turn your motorcycle, you can
use that time to brake more effectively or run deeper
into the corner, affording yourself more time to judge
the corner and a better look at any hidden surprises.
It's important to look as far into the corner as
possible and remember the adage, "You go where you
look."
DON'T RUSH
The number one survival skill, after mastering
emergency braking, is setting your corner-entrance
speed early, or as Kenny Roberts says, "Slow in, fast
out." Street riders may get away with rushing into 99
out of 100 corners, but that last one will have
gravel, mud or a trespassing car. Setting entrance
speed early will allow you to adjust your speed and
cornering line, giving you every opportunity to handle
the surprise.
Racers talk constantly about late braking, yet that
technique is used only to pass for position during a
race, not to turn a quicker lap time. Hard braking
blurs the ability to judge cornering speed accurately,
and most racers who rely too heavily on the brakes
find themselves passed at the corner because they
scrubbed off too much cornering speed.
Additionally, braking late often forces you to trail
the brakes or turn the motorcycle while still braking.
While light trail braking is an excellent and useful
technique to master understand that your front tyre
has only a certain amount of traction to give.
If you use a majority of the front tyre's traction for
braking and then ask it to provide maximum cornering
traction as well, a typical low-side crash will
result. -Also consider that your motorcycle won't
steer as well with the fork fully compressed under
braking. If you're constantly fighting the motorcycle
while turning, it may be because you're braking too
far into the corner. All these problems can be
eliminated by setting your entrance speed early, an
important component of running at the Pace.
We've all rushed into a corner too fast and
experienced not just the terror but the lack of
control when trying to herd the bike into the bend. If
you're fighting the brakes and trying to turn the
bike, any surprise will be impossible to deal with.
Setting your entrance speed early and looking into the
corner allows you to determine what type of corner
you're facing. Does the radius decrease? Is the turn
off-camber? Is there an embankment that may have
contributed some dirt to the corner?
Since you aren't hammering the brakes at every corner
entrance, your enjoyment of pure cornering will
increase tremendously. You'll relish the feeling of
snapping your bike into a corner and opening the
throttle as early as possible. Racers talk about
getting the drive started, and that's just as
important on the street. Notice how the motorcycle
settles down and simply works better when the throttle
is open? Use a smooth, light touch on the throttle and
try to get the bike driving as soon as possible in the
corner, even before the apex, the tightest point of
the corner. If you find yourself on the throttle
ridiculously early, it's an indication you can
increase your entrance speed slightly by releasing the
brakes earlier.
THE PACE PRINCIPLES
Set cornering speed early. Blow the entrance and
you'll never recover.
Look down the road. Maintaining a high visual horizon
will reduce perceived speed and help you avoid panic
situations.
Steer the bike quickly. There's a reason John Kocinski
works: out-turning a fast-moving motorcycle takes
muscle.
Use your brakes smoothly but firmly. Get on and then
off the brakes; don't drag'em.
Get the throttle on early. Starting the drive settles
the chassis, especially though a bumpy corner.
Never cross the centerline except to pass. Crossing
the centerline in a corner is an instant ticket and an
admittance that you can't really steer your bike. In
racing terms, your lane is the course; staying right
of the line adds a significant challenge to most roads
and is mandatory for sport riding's future.
Don't crowd the centerline. Always expect an oncoming
car with two wheels in your lane.
Don't hang off in the corners or tuck in on the
straights. Sitting sedately on the bike looks safer:
and reduces unwanted attention. It also provides a
built-in safety margin.
When leading, ride for the group. Good verbal
communication is augmented with hand signals and turn
signals; change direction and speed smoothly.
When following, ride with the group. If you can't
follow a leader, don't expect anyone to follow you
when you're setting the Pace.
As you sweep past the apex, you can begin to stand the
bike up out of the corner. This is best done by
smoothly accelerating, which will help stand the bike
up. As the rear tyre comes off full lean it puts more
rubber on the road, and the forces previously used for
cornering traction can be converted to acceleration
traction. The throttle can be rolled open as the bike
stands up.
This magazine won't tell you how fast is safe; we will
tell you how to go fast safely. How fast you go is
your decision, but it's one that requires reflection
and commitment. High speed on an empty four-lane
freeway is against the law, but it's fairly safe.
Fifty-five miles per hour in a canyon might be legal,
but it may also be dangerous. Get together with your
friends and talk about speed. Set a reasonable maximum
and stick to it. Done right, the Pace is addicting
without high straightaway speeds.
The group I ride with couldn't care less about
outright speed between corners; any gamer can twist a
throttle. If you routinely go 100 mph, we hope you
routinely practice emergency stops from that speed.
Keep in mind outright speed will earn a ticket that is
tough to fight and painful to pay; cruising the easy
straight stuff doesn't attract as much attention from
the authorities and sets your speed perfectly for the
next sweeper.
GROUP MENTALITY
STRAIGHTS ARE THE time to reset the ranks. The leader
needs to set a pace that won't bunch up the followers,
especially while leaving a stop sign or passing a car
on a two-lane road. The leader must use the throttle
hard to get around the car and give the rest of the
group room to make the pass, yet he or she can't speed
blindly along and earn a ticket for the whole group.
With sane speeds on the straights, the gaps can be
adjusted easily; the bikes should be spaced about two
seconds apart for maximum visibility of surface
hazards.
It's the group aspect of the Pace I enjoy most,
watching the bikes in front of me click into a corner
like a row of dominoes, or looking in my mirror as my
friends slip through the same set of corners I just
emerged from.
Because there's a leader and a set of rules to follow,
the competitive aspect of sport riding is eliminated
and that removes a tremendous amount of pressure from
a young rider's ego-or even an old rider's ego. We've
all felt the tug of racing while riding with friends
or strangers, but the Pace takes that away and saves
it for where it belongs: the racetrack. The racetrack
is where you prove your speed and take chances to best
your friends and rivals. I've spent a considerable
amount of time writing about the Pace (see
Motorcyclist, Nov. '91) for several reasons, not the
least of which being the fun I've had researching it
(continuous and ongoing). But I have motivations that
aren't so fun. I got scared a few years ago when US
Senator Danforth decided to save us from ourselves by
trying to ban super bikes, soon followed by insurance
companies blacklisting a variety of sports bikes. I've
seen Mulholland highway shut down because riders
insisted on racing (and crashing) over a short section
of it. I've seen heavy police patrols on roads that
riders insist on throwing themselves off of. I've
heard the term "murder cycles" a dozen times too many.
When we consider the abilities of a modern sports
bike, it becomes clear that rider techniques is sorely
lacking.
The Pace emphasizes intelligent, rational riding
techniques that ignore racetrack heroics without
sacrificing fun. The skills needed to excel on the
racetrack make up the basic precepts of the Pace,
excluding the mind-numbing speeds and leaving the
substantially larger margin for error needed to allow
for unknowns and immovable objects. Our sport faces
unwanted legislation from outsiders, but a bit of
throttle management from within will guarantee our
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Dats d way man... everybody shud relax n live in harmony wif one another... war is not the answer. Nways d guy oredi received his just desserts... pity d pillion though. I always worry when i haf a pillion. If u are riding alone, its juz yourself u haf to take care... n usually u go all out. But with a pillion, haf to be more conservative. And u r also responsible for his/her safety too... anything happens, how to answer to her parents one? Correct or not?
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omg tis guy reli sux. . .drinking still ride duhz!!! hope dat ger is ok. . . but scarey sia she got scars liao poor her hope she get well. . .Originally posted by delphiz:To that guy with ger pillion buanged at SLE cornering exiting to Wdl ave 2 yesterday morning(Hope U READ THIS)... What you trying to do? Trying to show an eye opener cornering for me considering that i'm just a P-plate? Before that blow at me, (y neva blow at the RVF ahead??) i know your bike nicer than mine but see what u had done to ur bike...damaged already costs a bomb already.. Then did u think bout your partner, think she will regret for life having a rider like U! as her leg shin a big hole can be seen and forehead a long cut, u ley only suffered a minor injuries. Worst still when i helped u up, U scolded me vulgarities if i knew dat gonna happened i shud have let e truck behind me pass me first den run over you.. N the shocking moment was that u FREAK! smell of alcohol when u scolded me..WAKE up la, Becoz ppl like u insurance so high. You dun treasure your life on road den dun drag other rider into it..
Lastly, TO all, Ride safely!!
tin he drunk liao dat y scold u but he reli bad leh u help him he like dat duhz. . .
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Originally posted by yahoo.com:
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hey dey~ , did i sae anything else?Originally posted by yahoo.com:is that a crime? y not u go ask those chinese gals why they like to choose indian ?
i guess u must haf a problem else y u ask this kinda qn?
anyway wait for u to reply before commenting further. i'm jus asking a qns n u so worked up? what for manz try c my post in another angle maybe u will understand more
a little bit so worked up, haiz...
ok, i promise not to ask any qns no more now, happie
true ur reply does make me feel i'm racis, n indeed i got provagatefd by ur reply too
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n also jus to carified, my post eariler also sounds same as y malay like ride kips? is that wrong? i got problem?, GET SOME LIFE DUHZ
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HEY READ MY POST CAREFULLY LAR, LAW GOT SAE MY POST ILLEGAL MEH? RACIST MEH?Originally posted by GroundZero:milkshake ah... how can u ask qn like dat.... if u like a girl, means u like her lor... no matter wat race, language or religion. My chinese friend got malay bf, n my Indian friend got malay gf.... doesn't matter lor... some prefer their own race lah but this is Sg man, multi-racial... but d qn u shud be asking hah, is y so many Sg man here, but still some girls like to go for ang mohs? (no offence to any ang mohs) funny rite? U GUYZ REALLI CANT READ THINGS IN A NORMAL TONE, MACAM LIKE I'M GUILT N BEEN SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR THE QNS I ASK
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hahahahahhahaaaaOriginally posted by yahoo.com:Relac leh yahoo... I think he just ask for fun sia...... He is a cockster.... dun mind ok? Dun start another flaming here..... BTW, it not good to post other's number here.... If people blow you and you decide to open your trottle, then just open, if you dun wanna play, then dun play.... dun need to see number first one right?
dun worry dude! i m not in here to start a flame war. as u can see.. my posts haf been very fair( or so i think ). i am revisiting this forum after so long as i find that the flames have all gone. anyways i promise not to make it a flame ok? i j ust wanna know what he, milkshake meant by his words. i am tired of reading and writing flames also.
i wanted the no plate just so that next time can watch out mah. i prefer not to play with bikes on the road nowadays as i feel its a waste of time. also only ignorant ppl come and jio me now to which i ignore lor. but seldom only ppl jio me coz i dun go out at nite for a very long time oledi. hope the chionging at nite will be revitalised once i finish my bloody project. sianz...
ur reply post fair?
WTF, it had sentenced me to death for my qns i ask -
hey yahoo, read things carefully, dun always assume, ur reply realli make me very
moreover singapore is a socity free of speach, if u dun like my qns, sae to me politely, dun cum n tok me in tyat kind of tone, i noe u read my qns as if i'm racist, but i'm not. thats all i wana sae, and wat u sae abt waiting for my reply uh?
y u tink i apologize or wat i wana ssae next? knn -
eh u 1 myreply, i sure reply here, u 1 cum out tok also can, not need ask other noe me or not n call for tis type of carification, u dun need thatOriginally posted by yahoo.com:cool man.. u more frenly then the other guy... or maybe i read that guy's msg in a provocative tone. anyways.. i just wanna see what is his reply. if u do know him.. can u like sms him and tell him that i waiting for his reply? thanks.. i keep refreshing the page but to my dismay he haven reply!! whaha.. i cant stay in sch for much longer...! thanks dude! -
n BTW i dun find my above post is in a unfriendly tone or manner, u r the one wif problem, cant even read thingsOriginally posted by milkshake:ask a qns, y u indians like to haf chinese gfs? -
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ok, now i waiting for yahoo reply, anyone who noe him pls ask him to reply here why he so pissed off wif my post, sms or call him pls, i also hate to keep refreshing this page, i cant stay long @ net now, THANKS DUDE/!
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[quote]Originally posted by milkshake:
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Why that guy never die? S'pore roads would be a better place to ride in without him.
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yo its not i duwan to reply but i had left sch at 2pm. if u think i read things differently then why is it that others also ask u to post in a different manner? anyway i m not here to start a war so nuff is said. i also said that maybe u posted in a different way and i read it in the wrong tone. if u still pissed off then its ur problem and its none of my business. i shall not reply to ur posts again from now on and its not because i am scared or wat. so tak ecare and ride safe and keep this sgforums war free.. good day!Originally posted by milkshake:[quote]Originally posted by milkshake:
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dun worry about me making u feel u are a racist. like i said, i saw the reply in a diff angle ok? and pls do continue to reply to my postings as and whenever u like. like u said singapore is a democratic country.Originally posted by milkshake:hey dey~ , did i sae anything else? i'm jus asking a qns n u so worked up? what for manz try c my post in another angle maybe u will understand more
a little bit so worked up, haiz...
ok, i promise not to ask any qns no more now, happie
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dun worry abt ur post, then dun expect me to reply, realli dun noe wat u 1, make that sure, i also dun care a f@#k @ wat usae, its jus that u dun make sense and i got pissed by ur replyOriginally posted by yahoo.com:dun worry about me making u feel u are a racist. like i said, i saw the reply in a diff angle ok? and pls do continue to reply to my postings as and whenever u like. like u said singapore is a democratic country.