RS250 Vs NSR 250
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eh like to ask u guys nsr 250 sp frame is mc 28 if nsr se also mc 28 meh?? then both also pgm 4?? not pgm 3 for se cos i tot is mc 21 for se...pls enlighten me thanx.
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hehehe finally got ppl same view as mi liaoz~ woohoo~Originally posted by tHoMiE:ermm i support TZR 250. u spent 1/2 the amount of cash on RS250 or PGM and still can do a full overhual on the TZR + renew 10 years+ full mod + paint job . after take still got a bit left over. I remember my UK fren telling abt the TZR250 being able to push to 100+ bhp -
SO how much is 1 TRZ250?Originally posted by tHoMiE:ermm i support TZR 250. u spent 1/2 the amount of cash on RS250 or PGM and still can do a full overhual on the TZR + renew 10 years+ full mod + paint job . after take still got a bit left over. I remember my UK fren telling abt the TZR250 being able to push to 100+ bhp -
http://www.dreamgate.ne.jp/nsr/general/quickref.htmlOriginally posted by ^|Tasuki|^:eh like to ask u guys nsr 250 sp frame is mc 28 if nsr se also mc 28 meh?? then both also pgm 4?? not pgm 3 for se cos i tot is mc 21 for se...pls enlighten me thanx. -
Hmmzzz i think this comparison is actually uncalled for...
just because both are of the same cc... doesnt mean that the pgm4 and the rs250 is in the same league...
a real world pgm4 is only comparible to a kr150 i believe.. except that its kinda more glam with the dry clutch..
and if the kr is well built (and it doesnt cost nearly as much to do so as modifying the pgm4) i believe the kr will be able to take on the pgm4 from stationary all the way to top! i dont ride a kr... but i have seen some and heard some and to tell u the truth i think that particular kr can take a cbr929 for 0-60kmh
anyway the pgm4 is really an old bike.. and old technology... totally for enthusiasts.. unless u can get hold of the honda rs version.. i think its still a wiser idea to get a four stroke 400cc to prepare for the bigger class 4 strokers...
pgm4 is really cool, rs250 is really fast, but after a year, u will think the pgm4 is starting to look old and bulky and the rs250 will feel slaggy and no power... then thats when u start looking for greener pastures like the 1000cc class or 600cc class...
a highly mod rs250 has 70bhp? and to get more out of it u gotta spend big money
the pgm4 has 50+ bhp? and to get more u gotta sell your house, make ur galfren work as a karaoke gal and maybe weekdays u urself work at desker road... if u get what i mean...
whereas why not just get a gsxr600 or r6 or f4i and u instantly get 90bhp stock!
and if u are hungry for more... go get the bigger stuff like gsxr1000 or r1 or 954 and u get 135bhp... 144bhp for the gixxer1000
so the point is.. if the year was 1994 the pgm4 or the rs250 would kick ass... but its 2002 a good 8 years already, and the kr150 should be able to kick the asses of the 250s if u spend just a bit of money
for me i just slept thru my class 2a phase and waited for class2 then got my weapon of choice... saved lots of money in the process.. think about it! -
wee woo wee at last someone tokin with logic all the way kneeslider
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U wan,then better try at malaysia hor...mai try at S'pore....hahhah,don't learn from me...kekekekeOriginally posted by nismoS132:till now still got no ppl to try wif me leh
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No need to take out this or that...just one wire nia,just need alan key can liaoOriginally posted by milkshake:yea, some cables fr there i think, all i noe is remove tis remove that then put put this put put that, hjehe 
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ET got respray tat one meh, the other time i saw is one log log old one leh n also the best bike i saw there is the pepsi cola RGVOriginally posted by feng125:RGV, RS, NSR and TZR all 250 2-strokes... so i guess the difference isn too big. of course everybody will have different views lah~
personally i prefer the RS250 lor... though it doesn mean pgm lousier in any way.
as for the 3ma, the looks a bit outdated leh... but i must say with a new paintjob it looks pretty good. check out the one at Eugene Tan... SWEEEET. -
if you think the mc28 is 'comparable' to a 600 (let's not even mention the 150 ok?)Originally posted by KneeSlider:Hmmzzz i think this comparison is actually uncalled for...
just because both are of the same cc... doesnt mean that the pgm4 and the rs250 is in the same league...
a real world pgm4 is only comparible to a kr150 i believe.. except that its kinda more glam with the dry clutch..
and if the kr is well built (and it doesnt cost nearly as much to do so as modifying the pgm4) i believe the kr will be able to take on the pgm4 from stationary all the way to top! i dont ride a kr... but i have seen some and heard some and to tell u the truth i think that particular kr can take a cbr929 for 0-60kmh
anyway the pgm4 is really an old bike.. and old technology... totally for enthusiasts.. unless u can get hold of the honda rs version.. i think its still a wiser idea to get a four stroke 400cc to prepare for the bigger class 4 strokers...
pgm4 is really cool, rs250 is really fast, but after a year, u will think the pgm4 is starting to look old and bulky and the rs250 will feel slaggy and no power... then thats when u start looking for greener pastures like the 1000cc class or 600cc class...
a highly mod rs250 has 70bhp? and to get more out of it u gotta spend big money
the pgm4 has 50+ bhp? and to get more u gotta sell your house, make ur galfren work as a karaoke gal and maybe weekdays u urself work at desker road... if u get what i mean...
whereas why not just get a gsxr600 or r6 or f4i and u instantly get 90bhp stock!
and if u are hungry for more... go get the bigger stuff like gsxr1000 or r1 or 954 and u get 135bhp... 144bhp for the gixxer1000 so the point is.. if the year was 1994 the pgm4 or the rs250 would kick ass... but its 2002 a good 8 years already, and the kr150 should be able to kick the asses of the 250s if u spend just a bit of money
for me i just slept thru my class 2a phase and waited for class2 then got my weapon of choice... saved lots of money in the process.. think about it!
i suggest you try riding one.
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rs250 stock = 70hp; mod = ?
nsr250 stock = 40hp; mod = 79hp and more.
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pls pls,... try not gettin too deep into HP ... cos it will all sounds bery impressive on theory... but its most often otherwise when it comes to practical....Originally posted by nismoS132:if you think the mc28 is 'comparable' to a 600 (let's not even mention the 150 ok?)
i suggest you try riding one.
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rs250 stock = 70hp; mod = ?
nsr250 stock = 40hp; mod = 79hp and more. 
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250 and 600 are mainly made for track. I personally rode a RS250 and GSXR600 on track. I must say a RS250 has superb handling and definately suited for 'slower tracks' (Tracks with more tight corners). I managed to hit 1'55" on the RS250 stock while GSXR600 only 2'00". The main reason is due to engine brake and power. But I must say both are fantastic bikes and I enjoy the aggressive handling.
Of course those pple who prefer the more straight up posture (NSR250 and R6) may find the GSXR600 and RS250 a chore to handle.
Mainly depends on the rider preference. No such thing as the better bike. -
aiya buy a skipper mod jet engine with NOS system hehe faster than F1 racing hehe =)
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about the KR able to keep up with the pgm4 for start to top, personal i dun thing so . if you are saying that the Kr is mod and the pgm4 is stock maybe there is a chance. if both the bike is mod ,Kr would be able to keep up with pgm4 for start to top liaoOriginally posted by KneeSlider:Hmmzzz i think this comparison is actually uncalled for...
just because both are of the same cc... doesnt mean that the pgm4 and the rs250 is in the same league...
a real world pgm4 is only comparible to a kr150 i believe.. except that its kinda more glam with the dry clutch..
and if the kr is well built (and it doesnt cost nearly as much to do so as modifying the pgm4) i believe the kr will be able to take on the pgm4 from stationary all the way to top! i dont ride a kr... but i have seen some and heard some and to tell u the truth i think that particular kr can take a cbr929 for 0-60kmh
anyway the pgm4 is really an old bike.. and old technology... totally for enthusiasts.. unless u can get hold of the honda rs version.. i think its still a wiser idea to get a four stroke 400cc to prepare for the bigger class 4 strokers...
pgm4 is really cool, rs250 is really fast, but after a year, u will think the pgm4 is starting to look old and bulky and the rs250 will feel slaggy and no power... then thats when u start looking for greener pastures like the 1000cc class or 600cc class...
a highly mod rs250 has 70bhp? and to get more out of it u gotta spend big money
the pgm4 has 50+ bhp? and to get more u gotta sell your house, make ur galfren work as a karaoke gal and maybe weekdays u urself work at desker road... if u get what i mean...
whereas why not just get a gsxr600 or r6 or f4i and u instantly get 90bhp stock!
and if u are hungry for more... go get the bigger stuff like gsxr1000 or r1 or 954 and u get 135bhp... 144bhp for the gixxer1000 so the point is.. if the year was 1994 the pgm4 or the rs250 would kick ass... but its 2002 a good 8 years already, and the kr150 should be able to kick the asses of the 250s if u spend just a bit of money
for me i just slept thru my class 2a phase and waited for class2 then got my weapon of choice... saved lots of money in the process.. think about it! -
lets juz call it passionOriginally posted by KneeSlider:Hmmzzz i think this comparison is actually uncalled for...
just because both are of the same cc... doesnt mean that the pgm4 and the rs250 is in the same league...
a real world pgm4 is only comparible to a kr150 i believe.. except that its kinda more glam with the dry clutch..
and if the kr is well built (and it doesnt cost nearly as much to do so as modifying the pgm4) i believe the kr will be able to take on the pgm4 from stationary all the way to top! i dont ride a kr... but i have seen some and heard some and to tell u the truth i think that particular kr can take a cbr929 for 0-60kmh
anyway the pgm4 is really an old bike.. and old technology... totally for enthusiasts.. unless u can get hold of the honda rs version.. i think its still a wiser idea to get a four stroke 400cc to prepare for the bigger class 4 strokers...
pgm4 is really cool, rs250 is really fast, but after a year, u will think the pgm4 is starting to look old and bulky and the rs250 will feel slaggy and no power... then thats when u start looking for greener pastures like the 1000cc class or 600cc class...
a highly mod rs250 has 70bhp? and to get more out of it u gotta spend big money
the pgm4 has 50+ bhp? and to get more u gotta sell your house, make ur galfren work as a karaoke gal and maybe weekdays u urself work at desker road... if u get what i mean...
whereas why not just get a gsxr600 or r6 or f4i and u instantly get 90bhp stock!
and if u are hungry for more... go get the bigger stuff like gsxr1000 or r1 or 954 and u get 135bhp... 144bhp for the gixxer1000 so the point is.. if the year was 1994 the pgm4 or the rs250 would kick ass... but its 2002 a good 8 years already, and the kr150 should be able to kick the asses of the 250s if u spend just a bit of money
for me i just slept thru my class 2a phase and waited for class2 then got my weapon of choice... saved lots of money in the process.. think about it!
else y would anyone stick wit a tzr for so long hehehehe
or y would anyone stick wit a pgm even though it is really old
knoe wat i mean?? -
No wonder ur RVF runs like a rocket la.Originally posted by TZR:aiya buy a skipper mod jet engine with NOS system hehe faster than F1 racing hehe =) -
passion is nothing without performance.Originally posted by ZecHs:lets juz call it passion
else y would anyone stick wit a tzr for so long hehehehe
or y would anyone stick wit a pgm even though it is really old
knoe wat i mean??
nsr rules. -
so brendon.. suan my dear izt???Originally posted by No_regret:No wonder ur RVF runs like a rocket la.
be careful ur bike, car, hse, grave etc wor.
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Whaha. He nice guy, but forgot his gf not so nice hor.. whahaOriginally posted by MoNsTer:so brendon.. suan my dear izt???
be careful ur bike, car, hse, grave etc wor.
haha
But i also no need to worry, i got none of those mah. Hehehe -
/me eyes big big.. looks who tokin.. who dun have bike ar...Originally posted by No_regret:Whaha. He nice guy, but forgot his gf not so nice hor.. whaha
But i also no need to worry, i got none of those mah. Hehehe
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Hmmmzz Nismo riding a nsr250?
bhp for race bikes is all so important.. lots of money involved to squeeze out bhp... so HORSEPOWER is really something..
anyway i think a current 01 02 model 600cc will be good for anyone who is thinking of getting a 250 just for track use... 250s are a thing of the past... history... good for enthusiasts perhaps... but too expansive to really invest in.. and the returns is really not impressive anymore.
with the money that will go into making a nsr250 really fast... that same amount of money could make a 600 or even a 1k run much faster on the road and in the track...
MSC peter tan is racing a gsxr1000 and getting 1:39 at pg... so who says a 250 is the most suitable? there was once this myth that the 250 rulez pg... well i think its no more so... the bigger bikes are able to run well in technical tracks now adays...
so for the long run... ditch the 250 racer and get a big bike and start shooting for the faster times -
no offence on big bikes or small bikes on PG,,,,,,,did u all ever see kup kias or rxz on PG when first corner or mostly other corners they dun really press brakes when cornering and they can go past bigger CC bikes even when they are in cornering? its all depends on the rider in skill n how well the bike performance on the day itself,,,,,,,so such things about bikes in which is faster can win the race are not so accurate,,,it all depends on the handling of bikes,,,the race which had just past which valentino won are just pure luck,,,,even though his bike is the fastest bike but no matter how hard he try he is still behind the first two bikes,,,,,just that they crash and valentino won the race,,,,the rc211v is very fast but not suitable for the german track becos of too much corners and the handling of it is quite hard for rossi to press harder to get past the two bikes in front,,,, so different bike different track will get different results,,,,,lets not compare which is faster or better handling,,,, PGM4 is a gd bike but maintainece is very high,,,,,if really wan it to be gd condition,,,,,must always servcing and around half year will need to overhaul the bike,,,,,to make sure the bike is in a gd condition,,,,,for RS 250,,,,,italians make the bike is meant for racing in GP,,,,,in sg,,,,,its really hard to keep the bike in tip condition as it will easily cost yr wallet a hole as the parts are expensive and it also need to be done the same as PGM4,,,,,as for cheaper maintainece is PGM4 but not really cheap also.....so its up to each individuals to maintain the bike.....
different ppl different thinking.....wat u might think is worth it but others may not think the same as u,,,,so its ( I BUY THE BIKE I SHIOK N NOT USING YR MONEY TO BUY) WO SONG TIO HAO -
i've tested the gsxr 600 and cbr 600 and i personally think that compared to the nsr250, they're nothing.
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ermmm,,,,,,to each whom prefer,,,,,,,well,,,,,since u try the bikes,,,,,in track or sg road? alot of different in playing track with those bikes or in sg roads,,,,,
be happy no worrries -
on road loh.
nvr really test to the limit lah, but it's enuff to let me know the difference. altho can chiong 180-200 very shiok, but after awhile oso sian.
corner more fun