Every bus is a good bus
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Originally posted by carbikebus:As from driver view its the other way round..Both buses capped at 60kmh.A22 does better with feeders and many stop and go svc while Ciporo is suitable for expressway service.
How is the shitaro even suitable? Save fuel??
That fucking adblue tho??
Originally posted by SMB128B:That's not even the comparison bro, and the OC is indeed heavier than the Citaro, and hence harder to control..
They complained about the higher side mirrors,braking and the retarder.In fact the OC is more powerful than Citaro although its slightly heavier than Citaro..12L 299hp/1250nm vs puny 6.4L 282hp/1120nm hahaha
Originally posted by SMB128B:I would love to meet the fucking asshole behind the job..
I also did ask the loyang smrt starter why deploy all Citaro,They say all its LTA. Becareful of what you say bro,A few LTA managements also a user here.
Originally posted by carbikebus:They complained about the higher side mirrors,braking and the retarder.In fact the OC is more powerful than Citaro although its slightly heavier than Citaro..12L 299hp/1250nm vs puny 6.4L 282hp/1120nm hahaha
It is miles more powerful.. the OC can conquer that slope like a breeze..
The shitaro like a golf cart fml
Originally posted by SMB128B:How is the shitaro even suitable? Save fuel??
That fucking adblue tho??
Expressway no need to do stopping and no traffic lights mah..Citaro breakdown prone but easy to repair as the engine is not that complex.Even OC is the 2nd bus that easier to repair.
Originally posted by carbikebus:I also did ask the loyang smrt starter why deploy all Citaro,They say all its LTA. Becareful of what you say bro,A few LTA managements also a user here.
Let them see lor, see what a fuck up they have made
Originally posted by carbikebus:Expressway no need to do stopping and no traffic lights mah..Citaro breakdown prone but easy to repair as the engine is not that complex.Even OC is the 2nd bus that easier to repair.
That's right
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Itu betul
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Originally posted by SMB128B:It is miles more powerful.. the OC can conquer that slope like a breeze..
The shitaro like a golf cart fml
What to do?Its already a standardised model for every operator beside the B9TL.
Thanks to both SMRT & SBST for being the first in SG to bring in the Citaro and to massive purchase.
Originally posted by carbikebus:Expressway no need to do stopping and no traffic lights mah..Citaro breakdown prone but easy to repair as the engine is not that complex.Even OC is the 2nd bus that easier to repair.
So? The shitaro is noisier, jerkier and rougher still. What ADVANTAGES does the shitaro have tho??
Originally posted by carbikebus:What to do?Its already a standardised model for every operator beside the B9TL.
Thanks to both SMRT & SBST for being the first in SG to bring in the Citaro and to massive purchase.
Hahaha SMRT alr knew what a rabak piece of shit the shitaro is.. hence their small order..
It's the fucking SBST back then that had money to burn and bring in so much of it.. to the extent there are surplus..
Originally posted by SMB128B:So? The shitaro is noisier, jerkier and rougher still. What ADVANTAGES does the shitaro have tho??
Cheaper spare parts and easier to repair as the engine is much straightforward.
Its actually a good bus until they start with the detuning of gearing power..
Originally posted by SMB128B:Hahaha SMRT alr knew what a rabak piece of shit the shitaro is.. hence their small order..
It's the fucking SBST back then that had money to burn and bring in so much of it.. to the extent there are surplus..
SBST is more to cost saving and SMRT is the otherwise because back then SMRT runtime is so jialat that even Dennis Lance can go up to 80kmh..Now 969 even do 40kmh at expressway..😂
Originally posted by SMB128B:So? The shitaro is noisier, jerkier and rougher still. What ADVANTAGES does the shitaro have tho??
High fuel efficiency
燃油效率高
kecekapan bahan api yang tinggi
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Originally posted by carbikebus:Cheaper spare parts and easier to repair as the engine is much straightforward.
Its actually a good bus until they start with the detuning of gearing power..
Yes they rly fucked up the bus..
Not to mention uh, why still no PIS and sliding door??
Fucking LTA humji on the trial they had with TT on 3053M ??
Originally posted by Zingor Burger:High fuel efficiency?
燃油效率高？
kecekapan bahan api yang tinggi?
அதிக எரிபொர�ள� திறன�?
That adblue tho?
Originally posted by SMB128B:Hahaha SMRT alr knew what a rabak piece of shit the shitaro is.. hence their small order..
It's the fucking SBST back then that had money to burn and bring in so much of it.. to the extent there are surplus..
After the 1st Citaro landed in Amdep ive already left SMRT though i still doing part time as NR BCs.Yes i do miss the O405,O405G,UD and Lance.When i do training last time,My trainer stop at Wldep and Kjdep to let us test drive the CRL & DAF/Hino respectively and as former SBST BC too,SMRT buses is way better in terms of performance compared to SBST fleet
'Shitaro' LOL creative and memeworthy name indeed. Few years back bus enthus were praising Citaro because it was said to be more 'smoother' than the 'jerky' or 'unstable' KUBs, and it looks more stylish etc etc unti operators mass purchase Citaro then all complain lol. I generally dislike Citaros but I prefer SMRT spec ones because got more seats than the SBST ones albeit weaker aircon. Just wished SMRT spec citaros were mass purchased instead.
Originally posted by Marvel68:'Shitaro' LOL creative and memeworthy name indeed. Few years back bus enthus were praising Citaro because it was said to be more 'smoother' than the 'jerky' or 'unstable' KUBs, and it looks more stylish etc etc unti operators mass purchase Citaro then all complain lol. I generally dislike Citaros but I prefer SMRT spec ones because got more seats than the SBST ones albeit weaker aircon. Just wished SMRT spec citaros were mass purchased instead.
I wish LTA change to ZF Ecolife...Much better acceleration than the detuned Voith.
Originally posted by Marvel68:'Shitaro' LOL creative and memeworthy name indeed. Few years back bus enthus were praising Citaro because it was said to be more 'smoother' than the 'jerky' or 'unstable' KUBs, and it looks more stylish etc etc unti operators mass purchase Citaro then all complain lol. I generally dislike Citaros but I prefer SMRT spec ones because got more seats than the SBST ones albeit weaker aircon. Just wished SMRT spec citaros were mass purchased instead.
Which is my point right. If it is SMRT spec I may dislike it less.
And I stand my ground that it is the better ones in SBST fleet. But in SMRT it brings shame and that's pretty much it
Originally posted by carbikebus:I wish LTA change to ZF Ecolife...Much better acceleration than the detuned Voith.
Yes, maybe refresh the interior while they at it
Originally posted by SMB128B:Which is my point right. If it is SMRT spec I may dislike it less.
And I stand my ground that it is the better ones in SBST fleet. But in SMRT it brings shame and that's pretty much it
Hopefully LTA will change to ZF,Sliding door and PIS..
Originally posted by SMB128B:Yes, maybe refresh the interior while they at it
Just change to white led bulbs for the interior and change the pvc to other colour with more sponge.As for A22,I prefer the Voith one..
Originally posted by carbikebus:SBST is more to cost saving and SMRT is the otherwise because back then SMRT runtime is so jialat that even Dennis Lance can go up to 80kmh..Now 969 even do 40kmh at expressway..😂
The Lance could have been a decent bus but for its non-existent suspension and the fact that the drivers had to chiong at 80km/h. Worse than roller coaster ride. I believe it was a cheap option to get to fill up the "2nd class citizen" services like 167, 851, 852, 853, 855 and 980. TIBS and SMRT really turboed the cummins engine no-holds barred to milk every ouce of juice from the 8.3L setup. F1 car performance yeah together with a roar louder than the O405 but dangerous to the passengers. Even the ceiling panels came off faster than the other buses due to the undamped bumps. You could actually see the ceiling hand straps swaying from side-to-side, not seen since the days of the LP1113. Evident of a total lack of lateral suspension. Even the Hino RK176's had proper lateral suspension.
AND the seating capacity of a Lance is 31 pax.
Shitaros are shitty but still a luxury compared to the Lances.
Originally posted by carbikebus:Just change to white led bulbs for the interior and change the pvc to other colour with more sponge.As for A22,I prefer the Voith one..
I actually like the lights the Citaro has now.. oh that one thing I like about them actually
They need a PIS.. in fact they better get them before the A22.. but again can't trust the intelligence of LTA la haha, and SBST so stupidly design their bus to be so goddamn hard to modify