LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Program - BSEP (Part 3)
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Originally posted by SBS5010P:
Saw a fb post from fb that 136 got a DD loading test this evening. Is it true? Another case of 119?
9806J, there's a picture posted...
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Not sure where you got this information from... doesn't hurt to try DDs on 136 in PM.. 136 does have decent loading towards Punggol in PM (and def more than 119). Like 228 if the test does not see need for DDs, it will not be introduced.
Also, don't compare 119s DDs coz those are BSEP and from LTA. I think SBST is more pragmatic when it gives a DD add or SD-->DD conversion.
Decent loading dosent mean that it warrants DDs ~ Like this even 284 can get DD since it got decent loading too~ From the pic on FB the VSO on 136 had only 1 pax on the upper deck and less than 7 pax on board. The pax from AMK also dw to move up to upper deck ~ If 22,24 or 262 comes, the pax heading to teck ghee/lor chuan would take any of the bus svcs and not 136
. 136 another " Troll Service "? ~ -
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Not sure where you got this information from... doesn't hurt to try DDs on 136 in PM.. 136 does have decent loading towards Punggol in PM (and def more than 119). Like 228 if the test does not see need for DDs, it will not be introduced.
Also, don't compare 119s DDs coz those are BSEP and from LTA. I think SBST is more pragmatic when it gives a DD add or SD-->DD conversion.
I still dont think 136 needs DDs.. I used to take 136 from AMK to Kovan and i am one of the few pax travelling beyond AMK and the KUB had little/no standees.. AM peak students going to sch if u realise AM peak without the students 136 DDs can be half full yes 136 need DDs for the students going to school but evening peak wise dunnid.. I agree with sbst191 cause when 22/24/262 comes the pax queuing for 136 just jump queue to whichever one of these svcs is coming as u noe AMK int same prob as boon lay there is no sight of buses approaching the berths for the pax..
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr Acx1688, haha. I see this everyday. Big enough. Not much issues at the moment. To all those detractors, they can be finally convinced now. To add on, sbs 27 is not really fully packed all the time. There are some spaces to get onto it from this stop. Cheers.
Firstly, there hasn't been any detractors. If you classified what some of us had said (including me) as "words from detractors", then I can only say everyone is entitled to their opinions. I can understand your overflowing enthusiasm (since the stop is right at your doorstep and serves you convinience). But a local resident (you) would have different opinions from a pax on a bus svc that passes by that stop (basically the rest of us) anyway. Be more receptive to opinions from others. This is a forum after all, LOL.
Secondly, I do notice that during Peak Hours the crowds at these 2 stops haven't been as huge as i expected. Probably because the svcs that would give high loading at these 2 stops haven't started stopping yet at these stops. (Sv 168, 969 etc).
Thirdly, what Acx1688 said isn't wrong with regards to buses not jamming within the bus bay, but I'm not so sure if other motorists would view the same way. There isn't any marking before that bus bay to tell motorists to avoid the bus bay? (or is there?)
I mean logically people would avoid driving into the bus bay. But if there's a huge jam on the main car lanes, I still foresee some goondus cutting into the bus bay to save time.Yeaps, that's about it. Just my opinions.
Cheers.
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Firstly, there hasn't been any detractors. If you classified what some of us had said (including me) as "words from detractors", then I can only say everyone is entitled to their opinions. I can understand your overflowing enthusiasm (since the stop is right at your doorstep and serves you convinience). But a local resident (you) would have different opinions from a pax on a bus svc that passes by that stop (basically the rest of us) anyway. Be more receptive to opinions from others. This is a forum after all, LOL.
Secondly, I do notice that during Peak Hours the crowds at these 2 stops haven't been as huge as i expected. Probably because the svcs that would give high loading at these 2 stops haven't started stopping yet at these stops. (Sv 168, 969 etc).
Thirdly, what Acx1688 said isn't wrong with regards to buses not jamming within the bus bay, but I'm not so sure if other motorists would view the same way. There isn't any marking before that bus bay to tell motorists to avoid the bus bay? (or is there?)
I mean logically people would avoid driving into the bus bay. But if there's a huge jam on the main car lanes, I still foresee some goondus cutting into the bus bay to save time.Yeaps, that's about it. Just my opinions.
Cheers.
Hi mr SBS 9631X, firstly yes initially got many detractors la. Some say this service will not stop there and some say other bus services should not stop there even if the route is on the way. Secondly, of course, an additional bus stop with some services where people can take at other stops too. When 39, 109, 168, 858, and 969 are implemented, you can expect more people. Thirdly, there are markings saying the lanes are for bus only. I think you never see carefully. Cheers.
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr SBS 9631X, firstly yes initially got many detractors la. Some say this service will not stop there and some say other bus services should not stop there even if the route is on the way. Secondly, of course, an additional bus stop with some services where people can take at other stops too. When 39, 109, 168, 858, and 969 are implemented, you can expect more people. Thirdly, there are markings saying the lanes are for bus only. I think you never see carefully. Cheers.
The bus lane markings thing, I can only say it's the same scenario with the speed limit. LTA paste the speed limit sign everywhere, but you still have people exceeding the speed limit everytime. LOL.
LTA can mark and say that the bus bay is only for buses, but who knows how the drivers will react? haha.
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
The bus lane markings thing, I can only say it's the same scenario with the speed limit. LTA paste the speed limit sign everywhere, but you still have people exceeding the speed limit everytime. LOL.
LTA can mark and say that the bus bay is only for buses, but who knows how the drivers will react? haha.
Hi mr SBS 9631X, on normal days without incidents, cars definitely will abide. But I cannot say if there is a heavy jam due to accidents or super heavy traffic. There is also a No entry signal on the sides of the road just before the bus stop. Cheers.
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Hi mr dupdup77 and others,
Just wondering if there's anything behind the frequent TRG buses training in the stretch of YCK road between Jln Kayu and YCK Station?
I've seen some AM SP and AM 72 going on TRG around that area.
New service?
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Originally posted by MoltenFalcon:
Hi mr dupdup77 and others,
Just wondering if there's anything behind the frequent TRG buses training in the stretch of YCK road between Jln Kayu and YCK Station?
I've seen some AM SP and AM 72 going on TRG around that area.
New service?
Thanks.just normal training buses...
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
just normal training buses...
Oh ok.
I ask because only recently got TRG buses in that stretch. Previous months absolutely 0 TRG buses in the area. -
Originally posted by MoltenFalcon:
Oh ok.
I ask because only recently got TRG buses in that stretch. Previous months absolutely 0 TRG buses in the area.there are alway TRG buses running around just that some did not put the EDS as TRG..
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr SBS 9631X, firstly yes initially got many detractors la. Some say this service will not stop there and some say other bus services should not stop there even if the route is on the way. Secondly, of course, an additional bus stop with some services where people can take at other stops too. When 39, 109, 168, 858, and 969 are implemented, you can expect more people. Thirdly, there are markings saying the lanes are for bus only. I think you never see carefully. Cheers.
But did you see... it is getting implemented in phases... not like what you said... all will stop... LTA is playing a wait and see game to halt other services there..
If only 3/34/27/88/89 stops... it gives little convenience to ppl.. bcoz those who would otherwise transfer at Punggol road or aft TPE stop will do it on TPE... doesn't really make a world of a difference.
Real difference will come when 39/168/858/969 can stop... Especially with 858 ppl will have the most benefit... For others like 858/969/39 Yishun bound, ppl still have 85/965 within Sengkang town.. To Woodlands still got 161.. So major benefit comes with quick transfer to CGA..
Need to soon implement 858M between CGA and TPE bus stop... coz I wonder how is it going to manage load... with all sensible ppl on 34/27 should transfer to 858 at TPE if going to CGA.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
But did you see... it is getting implemented in phases... not like what you said... all will stop... LTA is playing a wait and see game to halt other services there..
If only 3/34/27/88/89 stops... it gives little convenience to ppl.. bcoz those who would otherwise transfer at Punggol road or aft TPE stop will do it on TPE... doesn't really make a world of a difference.
Real difference will come when 39/168/858/969 can stop... Especially with 858 ppl will have the most benefit... For others like 858/969/39 Yishun bound, ppl still have 85/965 within Sengkang town.. To Woodlands still got 161.. So major benefit comes with quick transfer to CGA..
Need to soon implement 858M between CGA and TPE bus stop... coz I wonder how is it going to manage load... with all sensible ppl on 34/27 should transfer to 858 at TPE if going to CGA.
Hi mr busanalyser, the rest of the bus services, 39, 109, 168, 858. 969 will most probably come by this month end. These are the services which residents previously appeal to the MP before the TPE stops were built. Super direct to changi airport, super direct to tampines int, one route to sembawang, one route to bedok!
They are not interested in 3, 27, 34, 88, 89 stopping at TPE bus stop. Cheers.
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr busanalyser, the rest of the bus services, 39, 109, 168, 858. 969 will most probably come by this month end. These are the services which residents previously appeal to the MP before the TPE stops were built. Super direct to changi airport, super direct to tampines int, one route to sembawang, one route to bedok!
They are not interested in 3, 27, 34, 88, 89 stopping at TPE bus stop. Cheers.
Exactly my point..
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SMB3090E 6th BSEP for 966...
By the way, yesterday saw SMB3054K [WL 850E/903] at WRI bus park, did not appear on 903 from 5 plus to 6 plus...
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Originally posted by TIB1234T:
SMB3090E 6th BSEP for 966...
By the way, yesterday saw SMB3054K [WL 850E/903] at WRI bus park, did not appear on 903 from 5 plus to 6 plus...
Noooo... you have to be kidding me... 6th BSEP on 966?????
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Noooo... you have to be kidding me... 6th BSEP on 966?????
Yeap! Ytd and tdy same timing on 966 with the other 5 BSEP perms...
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Originally posted by TIB1234T:
SMB3090E 6th BSEP for 966...
By the way, yesterday saw SMB3054K [WL 850E/903] at WRI bus park, did not appear on 903 from 5 plus to 6 plus...
Add-on:
Due to SMB3054K case, there was a 10-15 mins gap without any 903 bus coming. End up, TIB1197S came, but office control staff asked the BC to straight away off to downrt and next TIB1140E came a min later... TIB997G was pulled in to do 903 as a result of long waiting time... Heard the staff say 903 peak hour always not enough bus, even around 12NN - 2PM also long queue...
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Originally posted by TIB1234T:
Add-on:
Due to SMB3054K case, there was a 10-15 mins gap without any 903 bus coming. End up, TIB1197S came, but office control staff asked the BC to straight away off to downrt and next TIB1140E came a min later... TIB997G was pulled in to do 903 as a result of long waiting time... Heard the staff say 903 peak hour always not enough bus, even around 12NN - 2PM also long queue...
Yes not surprising if you see the # of HDB hubs along 911/912/913 routes... I think same situation for all 3.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Yes not surprising if you see the # of HDB hubs along 911/912/913 routes... I think same situation for all 3.
911 most pampered, with almost 1 min frequency with crossovers as 911Es on both part of the route...
912 & 913 have yet to improve eventhough 912P is still alright & 913 has added 3039E BSEP...
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Originally posted by SBS5010P:
I still dont think 136 needs DDs.. I used to take 136 from AMK to Kovan and i am one of the few pax travelling beyond AMK and the KUB had little/no standees.. AM peak students going to sch if u realise AM peak without the students 136 DDs can be half full yes 136 need DDs for the students going to school but evening peak wise dunnid.. I agree with sbst191 cause when 22/24/262 comes the pax queuing for 136 just jump queue to whichever one of these svcs is coming as u noe AMK int same prob as boon lay there is no sight of buses approaching the berths for the pax..
For SBST i cant comment much as they have lot of DDs to play around..Basically VOs,VSOs and Tridents is an extra fleet of DDs.. -
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Ive been told that the third operator will be most probably from Europe..Dont ask me why but the hint from a reliable source working with the relevant body
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Ive been told that the third operator will be most probably from Europe..Dont ask me why but the hint from a reliable source working with the relevant body
Hopefully it's a good company...
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Ive been told that the third operator will be most probably from Europe..Dont ask me why but the hint from a reliable source working with the relevant body
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bus_operating_companies
