Suspected Redeployments (Part 4)
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Originally posted by ErwinLee95:
SMB60L
(AMDEP 853 > AMDEP SP)While it's true that 60L hasn't been on Sv 853 regularly in the past 2 months, I don't think it's out to SP? The fact that it has a new ad likely means that it's still perm somewhere.
Yes, while SMRT has a tendency to let SP buses have ads, I observed that this trend applies more for the older buses nowadays. Typically those newer buses (MANs & OC500 & Citaros) which are SPs but have new ads, they are perm for some service.
I've seen 60L more often than not on Sv 167 & 980 in the past 2 months than on Sv 853 though. Not too sure if 750B is perm Sv 853 again, it's not on the same timing or fleet sequence on the days I spot 750B on Sv 853 lately..
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
While it's true that 60L hasn't been on Sv 853 regularly in the past 2 months, I don't think it's out to SP? The fact that it has a new ad likely means that it's still perm somewhere.
Yes, while SMRT has a tendency to let SP buses have ads, I observed that this trend applies more for the older buses nowadays. Typically those newer buses (MANs & OC500 & Citaros) which are SPs but have new ads, they are perm for some service.
I've seen 60L more often than not on Sv 167 & 980 in the past 2 months than on Sv 853 though. Not too sure if 750B is perm Sv 853 again, it's not on the same timing or fleet sequence on the days I spot 750B on Sv 853 lately..
AMDEP just playing around with 853... Suspect SMB60L is perm on a GYBP service (167/980/985).
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
AMDEP just playing around with 853... Suspect SMB60L is perm on a GYBP service (167/980/985).
Almost certain it's not Sv 980. Because if you're saying that it's Sv 980, then you will have 2 OC500s (60L & 129Z) possibly entering that fleet but no buses out. Which doesn't make sense to me yet.
I think higher chance for Sv 167. But I still see 62G on Sv 167, and 169H is on the 167/854E slot during AM peak usually. Unless 60L is to replace that 1241Y which doesn't operate at all on Sv 167 but has a duty code reflected on the roster.. -
Originally posted by 23ispolo:
Then which bus is out?
2 VOs. 9297 and 1 95XX one
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i suspect 53 no longer have crossover slots to 410. can someone (like user 9631X) confirm?
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Almost certain it's not Sv 980. Because if you're saying that it's Sv 980, then you will have 2 OC500s (60L & 129Z) possibly entering that fleet but no buses out. Which doesn't make sense to me yet.
I think higher chance for Sv 167. But I still see 62G on Sv 167, and 169H is on the 167/854E slot during AM peak usually. Unless 60L is to replace that 1241Y which doesn't operate at all on Sv 167 but has a duty code reflected on the roster..I think it's 167 perm, the bus that swaps with TIB1241Y from 599...
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
I think it's 167 perm, the bus that swaps with TIB1241Y from 599...
The thing is, 1241Y was never perm AM 167 uh. That 1241Y only had a duty code reflected on Sv 167's roster, but never perm AM 167. So we're not exactly right if we say that 60L might be direct swap for 1241Y. More like swap for 1241Y's place on the roster.
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
The thing is, 1241Y was never perm AM 167 uh. That 1241Y only had a duty code reflected on Sv 167's roster, but never perm AM 167. So we're not exactly right if we say that 60L might be direct swap for 1241Y. More like swap for 1241Y's place on the roster.
SGWiki say that TIB1241Y does 969/599 on 167S151, then it will swap with a random rigid on 167... What I mean is that the rigid could be SMB60L, as in swaping with TIB1241Y after it does 969/599, then do the duty (on 167) for the rest of the shift...
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TIB708A
(KJDEP 975) > (KJDEP 985)
Many users spotted this bus on 985 recently... Keep an eye out for TIB723E too, because it went back to 975 today after appearing on 985 for a while...
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SMB45G
(AMDEP 854) > (AMDEP 855)
Especially sticky to 855 nowadays... Replacing one of the O405s.
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
TIB708A
(KJDEP 975) > (KJDEP 985)
Many users spotted this bus on 985 recently... Keep an eye out for TIB723E too, because it went back to 975 today after appearing on 985 for a while...
Agreed! by the way, anyone spotted the perm DAFs on 985? I only spotted TIB711P, 710S and 709Y not spotted leh... -
Originally posted by SMB42P:
Agreed! by the way, anyone spotted the perm DAFs on 985? I only spotted TIB711P, 710S and 709Y not spotted leh...Probably under maintenace ba? TIB709Y last seen during last few days of June school holidays...
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
Probably under maintenace ba? TIB709Y last seen during last few days of June school holidays...
thats why..KJDEP missing quite a number of perm buses...
985: TIB709Y, TIB710S
172: SMB58U
307: SMB212R (heard not badly damaged from accident but depot refused to deploy it)
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Speaking of 60L spotted it at Shenton Way doing 167..
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
The thing is, 1241Y was never perm AM 167 uh. That 1241Y only had a duty code reflected on Sv 167's roster, but never perm AM 167. So we're not exactly right if we say that 60L might be direct swap for 1241Y. More like swap for 1241Y's place on the roster.
It seems odd that 167S151(1241Y) doesn't do 167 like other split shifts but it still is perm 167.
Looking at the demands of 969/599, It should be obvious why bendies are deployed, which is why they chose 1241Y to perm that 969/599 duty, while the PM part gets taken by random buses (I don't think 167 needs bendies does it? Unless there is a 'super high' demand for a high capacity bus, if not I don't think 1241Y will come out and do 167)
Quite odd but the main problem lies with the 969/599 duty more than the 167 part, If the demand in 969/599 drops then they will use a normal bus (this way it will make more sense, no confusion here and there why it should use a bendy for the earlier portion, leaving the PM slot empty.)
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
SMB45G
(AMDEP 854) > (AMDEP 855)
Especially sticky to 855 nowadays... Replacing one of the O405s.
27J 45G 48Z 49X all have taken turns to cameo on Sv 855 at least twice for the past week on Sv 855. So take your pick out of the four OC500s. I don't think the timings I spotted 45G was a O405 timing previously though..
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
It seems odd that 167S151(1241Y) doesn't do 167 like other split shifts but it still is perm 167.
Looking at the demands of 969/599, It should be obvious why bendies are deployed, which is why they chose 1241Y to perm that 969/599 duty, while the PM part gets taken by random buses (I don't think 167 needs bendies does it? Unless there is a 'super high' demand for a high capacity bus, if not I don't think 1241Y will come out and do 167)
Quite odd but the main problem lies with the 969/599 duty more than the 167 part, If the demand in 969/599 drops then they will use a normal bus (this way it will make more sense, no confusion here and there why it should use a bendy for the earlier portion, leaving the PM slot empty.)
What you said is quite true. But then again, why couldn't they just picked another parent service for Sv 599 then? If Sv 599's demand requires a bendy, IMO i think it's just better if they picked a parent svc which already has plenty of Bendies. Instead of sticking 1241Y into Sv 167..
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TIB558R and TIB559M
(WLDEP SP) > (WLDEP 980)
Spotted them on 980 a few times liao...
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TIB448A
(AMDEP SP) > (AMDEP 61)
On 61 very regularly... Should be replacing one of the O405s.
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Highly likely:
SBS8816L
(BRBP SP)
(AMDEP SP)
Can someone check for me is 8816L is now based in AMDEP instead of BRBP? I've spotted it on AMDEP svcs only this past month (Sv 21, 22, 53, 58, 133 & a few others). And it's not like AMDEP is that short of KUB SPs to kope from BRBP..
OT: Idk why is 8816L not reflected at all in the SP Buses page on Wiki. It's not under both AMDEP or BRBP sections on that page. -
same to 3726X should be BR SP liao instead of AM SP
This bus now doing mainly on BR svc . This bus like to do 88 alot also
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Originally posted by SMB42P:
thats why..KJDEP missing quite a number of perm buses...
985: TIB709Y, TIB710S
TIB708A on 985 again today...
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yup.... 8816 AM 3726 BR
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Originally posted by Lsk138:
same to 3726X should be BR SP liao instead of AM SP
This bus now doing mainly on BR svc . This bus like to do 88 alot also
Makes sense if it's a 1-to-1 swap between these 2 buses. Just need some verification from others.
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Anyway, there's something really fishy going on between Sv 854 & Sv 855. Idk why those Sv 854 OC500s (usually it's SMB45G, 48Z & 49X) keeps appearing on Sv 855 together since about 2 weeks ago. All 3 are on Sv 855 today again during AM Peak.
I tried to dismiss it, but I realised that at least one of the slots the 3 OC500s are on on Sv 855 should be a Citaro's slot, another slot should be one of the O405s, and idk yet about the last. I'm not sure if this trend is due to the 2 de-reg O405s' vacant slots now (506R & 509H's), or something else.So can someone KIV too on Sv 854's fleet or the roster for both svcs? thanks much.