SMRT drivers' strike
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They like to compare sg and their homeland.Their land how big?So smrt let them have $250 increment and half mth bonus but let them find their own lodging and transport see they complain or not?They should be grateful sg hire them because of political reasons
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I am surprised that most of the people here condemned the drivers without looking further into the issue.
The drivers were recruited by the bus company going over to their place.
If there is issues with the pay and living condition, I agreed that they should not strike but they may have feedback and got no response.
That is why they have to resort such wrong move of going on strike.
One thing that I have not heard so far is that any decision to improve their living condition and increase their pay.
So, is the issue resolved with hard core tactics ?
Or they expect the drivers to behave like local to be dumb and suffer.
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they complain lodging, nihgt and day shift people put in one bunk cannot rest! nabey, see how their own people also cannot tahan their own people. becasue they make lost of nooise even their own people cannot tahan. no more cheena cfrom cheenaland drivers i say! send them home by phases and control percentage of them in our workerforce until eventually null of these rats infestation in sg
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Originally posted by Medicated Oil:
I am surprised that most of the people here condemned the drivers without looking further into the issue.
The drivers were recruited by the bus company going over to their place.
If there is issues with the pay and living condition, I agreed that they should not strike but they may have feedback and got no response.
That is why they have to resort such wrong move of going on strike.
One thing that I have not heard so far is that any decision to improve their living condition and increase their pay.
So, is the issue resolved with hard core tactics ?
Or they expect the drivers to behave like local to be dumb and suffer.
i don;t mind locals strike. but not foreners. if they et same pay as locals, then why hire them! we locals should take the job instead. its not local mind this and that, its the salary scale that they suppress, while spending money on their own pockets, buy buses upgrade this and that, high mainetnace fees and also build new facilities. but pay of local bus captains? insrease slowly or stagnant?!break law is break la, one less cheena from cheenaland one degree of relief for the country. During GE we have months to air our views voice our discontent - but still the people vote for them?! or too many PR vote for them?
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Today : 6 Service Leaders did not report for work today.
SMRT is currently investigating this matter. -
eh.. troublemaker... so if it's local kena, so your view on it changes??? so do you have a firm position to everyone on all position???
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Originally posted by sbst275:
eh.. troublemaker…
so if it’s local kena, so your view on it changes???
so do you have a firm position to everyone on all position???
i refuse to write in reply to this thread. as the suggestion can be viewed by all and who knows the information may pass on to PRshits or some forgner labor whom may in turn use it to support their cause.if locals strike, then i will reply. but please law by law before strike okay?
always like to see girl pnaty and bra. wait lah be patient
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Originally posted by SBS2656X:
Today : 6 Service Leaders did not report for work today.
SMRT is currently investigating this matter.
sacred already. 100 on preganant STD MC leave is rediculaous, i bet the chinese embassy briefed them country bumpkins. 6 maybe some food posisoning excuse acceptable hahaha.see tehya re cowards! no wonder they betray their own country and people and let the japs kick their arses penis and vagainals all over the placeduring WW2
all those who strike should be listed. if possible send them home. else after their passes expired don;t renew. there is posion in their inds and they have intention to strike and take on by force their claims. they will instill and pollute the minds of the other drivers. by keeping them here a day longer minds a higher risk to the drivers morale.
Apparently sg gahmen will never leanr anything about total defence. sg is kaput!
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Originally posted by SBS2656X:
Today : 6 Service Leaders did not report for work today.
SMRT is currently investigating this matter.wtf is a "service lea-duh" ?
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compare them with the malaysian drivers. the malaysian drivers have to wake up at 2-3am (based on a driver's experience) and reach the depot by 4.30am to avoid jams. go home late at night also have safety issues. the malaysian highway so damn quiet in the wee hours of the morning, can get robbed. but do the PRC drivers have to go through those? no!
they get a dorm, a shelter over their heads, with utilities also, HEAVILY subsidised for by SMRT, only need to pay a minimal amount per month (less than $100). they can get more rest than most drivers because a transport to and from the depot is provided, and they will never be late for work. they also get more sleep in this way because the dorm is near the depot. meals are also provided.
if they were to have a salary matching the malaysians without the accomodation, they have to find their own rental flat/room. a rental room easily costs $300 (based on rental rooms in WDL).
they obviously didnt do the calculations and only protest based on the pay they get every month without counting the benefits tied to their pay also.
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So what is the gah men going to do now? Eat back their words?
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Originally posted by the Bear:
wtf is a "service lea-duh" ?
SMRT's way of calling them bus drivers. Bus drivers sounds a bit crude. Like how SBST calls them Bus Captians.
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Originally posted by SBS6305H:
So what is the gah men going to do now? Eat back their words?
You think they will take servere actions against them? later cheena minister not happy with us. at the most SMRT finds more drivers (maybe not from cheena) in the meantime, train them first then deport the troublemaking bunch.
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Originally posted by dan474:
You think they will take servere actions against them? later cheena minister not happy with us. at the most SMRT finds more drivers (maybe not from cheena) in the meantime, train them first then deport the troublemaking bunch.
Of course not. The cheena man who drove service 159 ran down the lady and only served 2 week imprisonment. Bullsh!t
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SMRT spokesman says 6 drivers did not report for duty this morning and the matter is being investigated.
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Many people already warning of such scenarios a few years back.
Sad.
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cheena vagainal licking and cock sucking. opposition should docuemnt down the punishment on these cheena - too light. can discuss over GE2016 rally.
strike is strike - like that the law book is for show only.
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Originally posted by charlize:
Many people already warning of such scenarios a few years back.
Sad.
what need warning? no experience use brain also can think this is one of the many other possibilities already! -
Originally posted by SBS6305H:
So what is the gah men going to do now? Eat back their words?
boh ji 1 lah. see how far backthe cock with shrink, illegal is illegal esp they are foriegners, have to be dealt with by our law - unless its provent our laws only are words on books only -
All these reminded me of 1 Cheena driver killed a women ''accidentally'' and got jailed 2 weeks only... Pfft, should've sent him for a death sentence.
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very danagerious now on the road and on buses driven by tehse PRCS. 177 tostart with the dmage is done. greedy arses.
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Just wondering..would those 60-102 drivers used we passengers as a hostage to demand for $$? :/
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SINGAPORE: Acting Minister for Manpower Tan Chuan-Jin said on Tuesday the no-show at work by SMRT's bus drivers from China is an "illegal strike".
He said workers of essential services in Singapore have to give 14 days' notice to their employers and must comply with requirements under the law.
Mr Tan said the drivers have crossed the line by taking matters into their own hands.
This, he said, is not acceptable as their actions have affected essential services and industrial relations.
He said the government views this seriously and has zero tolerance for this.
Mr Tan, who was speaking at a media conference on Tuesday, said the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) understands the grievances of the drivers but stressed that there are due processes in place for them to raise their concerns with management.
Asked if the workers will be sacked or sent back to China, Mr Tan said investigations are still on.
Police are also investigating the matter.
Mr Tan said the matter should be "left to due processes".
Asked why MOM has decided to label the actions of the drivers as a strike, Mr Tan replied that labelling it as a strike opens up a series of actions that will follow.
He said with every action, there'll be a series of potential responses and the government and the authorities need to be prepared for them.
Mr Tan said they had to ascertain the facts, as well as the rules and regulations under the law, before calling it a strike.
Also speaking at the media conference, Minister of State for Transport Josephine Teo urged employers and employees to handle grievances in a proper manner.
She said there must be open dialogue and stressed that there are proper channels for this.
Mrs Teo said any behaviour that affects the public is not the right.
She also said SMRT continues to operate all its bus services.
On Monday, SMRT maintained 90 per cent of its services; on Tuesday, it restored services to 95 per cent.
The public transport operator has also put 40 bus drivers on standby and has an arrangement with SBS Transit to provide drivers if needed.
In response to what has been said by the authorities on Tuesday evening, the National Trades Union Congress (NTUC) said it supports the action taken by the Government regarding the illegal strike of the SMRT's bus drivers.
The NTUC said it is important to send a clear signal to all workers that as a nation ruled by law, there are proper ways of dealing with issues and disagreement.
It added that any action that is illegal must and will be dealt with firmly, regardless of whether the workers are local or foreign.
The labour movement said there are important lessons that can be drawn from this episode.
Management must maintain an open line of communication with their workers especially those who are not union members.
Workers must recognise that there is a right and proper way to air their grievances and these should be adhered to.
Cham Hui Fong, Assistant Secretary-General of NTUC, said: "As a labour movement which represent the workers, although they are not our members, they are part of our workforce. It's important that they understand that to resolve their issues is not through striking or not going back to work, but in communicating with people. If the management is not talking to them, then I think it's the role of the workers to make sure management listens to them."
The National Transport Workers' Union (NTWU) has offered to continue working with SMRT management in engaging and addressing the issues faced by the bus drivers from China.
- CNA/deLink here
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Originally posted by sbst275:
I think some ppl here dun get it…
doesn’t mean by using the law, what goes on at the other end is correct…
As in invoking the law on those strikers?
Well, what those striking workers did was wrong. Yes, they have grievances, but get over it.
This sound callous Life isn't fair. Why don't they curse themselves for not being born to into rich families then.
They had avenues to raise their grievances. E.g. towards management. And it is clear that SMRT management is not entirely innocent/guilt free in this matter. They probably should relook at their HR policies/practices towards the treatment of those foreign workers. SMRT management must be held accountable.
While the wage might be inequitable, but at least provide the workers a decent place to live in.
Or pay the Chinese at a rate similar to the Malaysians, maybe a few percentage lower, but don't provide accommodation for them. Let them find their own rental.
That said, the NTUC and whatever transport union has also failed to look after these workers.
And I believe that the workers think that by going to the ministry to redress their grievances, the bureaucracy and red tape would take a long time to get things done...or the government won't be on their side. So they just do what they can do, band together to protest. I mean, there are other media reports of Chinese coming together to hold local authorities to task successfully so they probably think they could do the same in Singapore. They might have been ignorant of our laws and didn't get any legal advice for this.
As I said, this incident and possible incidents to come all highlight the problem of trying to use a cheap foreign workforce and some more from different cultures/countries. More comparison in the workplace and more unhappiness would surface in the future.
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just for the record, me took 2 smrt buses today.