LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP)
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
KUB creepy not suitable should scrap and replace with Citaro!!!Hope to see Citaro on City Direct!!!
Use Citaro on 179? People hamtam u even more ar! Goondu! U tink citaro can fit how many pax?
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Originally posted by sbst275:
dun tell me Citaro value for money..
LTA alrdy say… economical…
Diesel economy very good!!!
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
Diesel economy very good!!!
Sure or not??? overrev engine... as economical as thought to be??? -
Originally posted by sbst275:
Sure or not??? overrev engine... as economical as thought to be???
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Originally posted by sbst275:
only 30 to 40??? you sure? what time did you notice it?then u tell me the queue how many people??
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Originally posted by sbst191:
then u tell me the queue how many people??
what time did you observe first... -
Originally posted by SBS6305H:
Use Citaro on 179? People hamtam u even more ar! Goondu! U tink citaro can fit how many pax?
then ppl say 83 so packed yet got citaro perms!!
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Originally posted by sbst275:
what time did you observe first...peak hours! 317 queue is always less than 40 ppl!!
315 30-40 ppl queueing then ppl Miss the bus then they wait for the next bus!!
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Originally posted by sbst191:
peak hours! 317 queue is always less than 40 ppl!!
315 30-40 ppl queueing then ppl Miss the bus then they wait for the next bus!!
define your peak hours... some feeder's peak hr is from 1830 to 1930... -
Originally posted by sbst275:
define your peak hours... some feeder's peak hr is from 1830 to 1930...1800hrs-1830hrs
If 317 comes first, 315 will have less than 40 pax because majority of them are alighting at chomp chomp.
Thts why the loading pattern is diff!!
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Originally posted by sbst191:
1800hrs-1830hrs
If 317 comes first, 315 will have less than 40 pax because majority of them are alighting at chomp chomp.
Thts why the loading pattern is diff!!
that's when the loading is not as heavy.. That applies to quite a no of feeder buses as well... Say 334... The load begins to appear aft 1800 and ends off at 1945 - 2000. -
Originally posted by sbst275:
that's when the loading is not as heavy.. That applies to quite a no of feeder buses as well... Say 334... The load begins to appear aft 1800 and ends off at 1945 - 2000.Same as 113.. I think the office workers need 1h time to commute from their office to the bus stop/bus interchange to board these bus services.. hmm.
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Originally posted by SBS5010P:
Same as 113.. I think the office workers need 1h time to commute from their office to the bus stop/bus interchange to board these bus services.. hmm.
The nearest BI is at S'goon instead... There's Sv 45 & 53... So 113 is not the direct bus... Oh... From CBD to S'goon Int bus stop need 1 hr on the MRT???? mmm... interesting... -
City Direct's fare collection method is as good as similiar to London's style of parcel tender....
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Originally posted by sbst191:
1800hrs-1830hrs
If 317 comes first, 315 will have less than 40 pax because majority of them are alighting at chomp chomp.
Thts why the loading pattern is diff!!
Your observation is partly correct. There are almost 30-40 pax who get down at Chomp Chomp. Hence, if 315 comes before 317, the latter normally goes empty and will not have more than 30 pax on board in peak hours.
When that happens, the loading on 315 will be around 70-75 pax at interchange itself because there are around 30-40 pax who take the service to SGN North Ave 1 and North Ave 4.
When 315 comes to stops on SGN Central, there is no place for people to enter. Hence, the better thing is to make 315 direct to SGN North Ave 1 and improve frequency on 317.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
that's when the loading is not as heavy.. That applies to quite a no of feeder buses as well... Say 334... The load begins to appear aft 1800 and ends off at 1945 - 2000.334 loading cannot be compared to 315/317. It is extremely high, and lately 4 B9TLs have been deployed to take care of the load ~ 50% of the fleet is DD now
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I guess some ppl forgot... That S'goon Gardens have some historical background as to why 315 plies there...
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Originally posted by sbst275:
I guess some ppl forgot… That S’goon Gardens have some historical background as to why 315 plies there…
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What's the historical background?
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very simple wat... your dun know back till late 1980s the SBS terminal was at S'goon Gardens???
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Originally posted by sbst275:
very simple wat…
your dun know back till late 1980s the SBS terminal was at S’goon Gardens???
Come on. There was a terminal at Sompah, Hougang St 21 and so many other places all around the city.With time the route needs to change. What has historical background got to do with it? 315 needs to be direct to SGN North Ave 1 and not go Chomp Chomp way. 317 is there for that. 73, 156 are there to connect YCK Road and Serangoon North Ave 4 to Chomp Chomp.
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eh.. dun you realise it's still relevant.. The only hawker centre n market inside S'goon New Town is still there???
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Originally posted by sbst275:
eh.. dun you realise it’s still relevant..
The only hawker centre n market inside S’goon New Town is still there???
Yes - and that's why there is 73, 136, 156, 317 all plying there. How many more buses you want?There is just 315 to SGN North Ave 1.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Yes - and that's why there is 73, 136, 156, 317 all plying there. How many more buses you want?There is just 315 to SGN North Ave 1.
then what's the feeder bus system for? dun tell me... like 334's case.. the off peak pax a big chunk is from the 505 market area that you dun realise? -
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Come on. There was a terminal at Sompah, Hougang St 21 and so many other places all around the city.With time the route needs to change. What has historical background got to do with it? 315 needs to be direct to SGN North Ave 1 and not go Chomp Chomp way. 317 is there for that. 73, 156 are there to connect YCK Road and Serangoon North Ave 4 to Chomp Chomp.
315 didn't ply Serangoon Gardens in the past until its merger with the former service 318.
And another error...156 didn't ply Serangoon Gardens at all.