LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP)
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Registered on 31 Oct 2012:
SBS6318X
SBS6319T
SBS6320M
SBS6321K
SBS6322H
SBS6325A
SBS6327U
SBS6328SRegistered on 01 Nov 2012:
SBS6323E
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Originally posted by TIB987K:
Registered on 31 Oct 2012:
SBS6318X
SBS6319T
SBS6320M
SBS6321K
SBS6322H
SBS6325A
SBS6327U
SBS6328SRegistered on 01 Nov 2012:
SBS6323E
SBS6324C
SBS6326Y2 will go to AMDEP.
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- Registered 01 Nov 2012(BSEP Scheme)
- SBS3314B
- SBS3318R
- Registered 02 Nov 2012(BSEP Scheme)
- SBS3316X
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I think SMRT no more BSEP, all these days no BSEP MAN registered. Latest they 2nd Nov will register
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Eh.. if it's not over the WAB upgrading works, then why are they shifting the end on berths svs now? Upgrading takes time as they've to complete the sawtooth's alighting bay first... Obviously again, people dun know how LTA does things... Furthermore, S157's sawtooth position has yet to be fixed...
157 route is very long leh from Boon Lay to Toa Payoh. If bus loops, there will be a lot of bunching and timing of buses will become irregular due to traffic conditions. If it terminates at Toa Payoh, the timing can at least be monitored. -
Is there still only 1 new BSEP Citaro in BNDEP now? I think I know where that will go..
The date of implementation for the next round of BSEP services should be 12 Nov, Monday. Spotted at least 2 services already with some improvements & WAB fleet adds to their e-tt.Service 21
Change of schedule from 12 Nov on Weekdays & Sunday/PH schedules. Rest no change.
I didn't have time to fully look through all the timings, but I did spot these changes for Sv 21 for at least the first half of the day (approx timings from PSR Int):
Convert NWAB (non-WAB)
WAB: 0538 0600 0804 0828 0903 1026 ....
Convert WAB NWAB: 0602 0753 0816 0851 1013 ....
New WAB trip 0637 (can't be adjust cause +/- also can't force this trip out unless it's a fleet add)
The swap of WAB & non-WAB timings should be around 3 buses involved considering the run-time? As for the new trip, that should be a Wright, cause lately there has been a constant number of Wright cameos (both BN & AM) on Sv 21~Service 29
Change of schedule from 12 Nov on Weekdays only. Rest no change.
Timings from Tampines Int were adjusted from min 9mins to now 7 mins from at least 0600-0700hrs..
New WAB trip added at either 0621 or 0628hrs (after taking into possible +/- of new timings). Rest of the day I didn't have time to observe..So if there's anything wrong or needs to be updated, let me know again.
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Is there still only 1 new BSEP Citaro in BNDEP now? I think I know where that will go..
The date of implementation for the next round of BSEP services should be 12 Nov, Monday. Spotted at least 2 services already with some improvements & WAB fleet adds to their e-tt.Service 21
Change of schedule from 12 Nov on Weekdays & Sunday/PH schedules. Rest no change.
I didn't have time to fully look through all the timings, but I did spot these changes for Sv 21 for at least the first half of the day (approx timings from PSR Int):
Convert NWAB (non-WAB) WAB: 0538 0600 0804 0828 0903 1026
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Convert WAB NWAB: 0602 0753 0816 0851 1013 ....
New WAB trip 0637 (can't be adjust cause +/- also can't
force this trip out unless it's a fleet add)
The swap of WAB & non-WAB timings should be around 3 buses involved considering the run-time? As for the new trip, that should be a Wright, cause lately there has been a constant number of Wright cameos (both BN & AM) on Sv 21~Service 29
Change of schedule from 12 Nov on Weekdays only. Rest no change.
Timings from Tampines Int were adjusted from min 9mins to now 7 mins from at least 0600-0700hrs..
New WAB trip added at either 0621 or 0628hrs (after taking into possible +/- of new timings). Rest of the day I didn't have time to observe..So if there's anything wrong or needs to be updated, let me know again.
So it's wright for 21 and citaro for 29? Unless 1 more citaro go to BNDEP. SBS6320M already under BNDEP. I saw 1 632x series citaro in AMDEP, can anyone comfirm?
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In the video "Crimewatch 25th Anniversary", a bus, seems to be a Volvo B57, had the plate number "SBS 3307Y" and was on service '50' towards 'Bukit Merah'. Video link here
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Is there still only 1 new BSEP Citaro in BNDEP now? I think I know where that will go..
The date of implementation for the next round of BSEP services should be 12 Nov, Monday. Spotted at least 2 services already with some improvements & WAB fleet adds to their e-tt.Service 21
Change of schedule from 12 Nov on Weekdays & Sunday/PH schedules. Rest no change.
I didn't have time to fully look through all the timings, but I did spot these changes for Sv 21 for at least the first half of the day (approx timings from PSR Int):
Convert NWAB (non-WAB) WAB: 0538 0600 0804 0828 0903 1026 ....
Convert WAB NWAB: 0602 0753 0816 0851 1013 ....
New WAB trip 0637 (can't be adjust cause +/- also can't force this trip out unless it's a fleet add)
The swap of WAB & non-WAB timings should be around 3 buses involved considering the run-time? As for the new trip, that should be a Wright, cause lately there has been a constant number of Wright cameos (both BN & AM) on Sv 21~Service 29
Change of schedule from 12 Nov on Weekdays only. Rest no change.
Timings from Tampines Int were adjusted from min 9mins to now 7 mins from at least 0600-0700hrs..
New WAB trip added at either 0621 or 0628hrs (after taking into possible +/- of new timings). Rest of the day I didn't have time to observe..So if there's anything wrong or needs to be updated, let me know again.
Got check Sv39 also? Haha... -
Originally posted by SBS7491X:
In the video "Crimewatch 25th Anniversary", a bus, seems to be a Volvo B57, had the plate number "SBS 3307Y" and was on service '50' towards 'Bukit Merah'. Video link here
SBST running out of rego numbers, so they must recycle them. Pretty soon, 3641 aka The Queen will return from the grave albeit in a different form. Route 50 plied between Eunos and bukit Merah via Geylang Serai, Golden Mile, Shenton Way and Tiong Bahru. Its fleet was supplied by HGDEP and dominated by Leyland Vikings, which were then replaced by DM-bodied Volvo B10M Mk IIs. -
Originally posted by SBS 6078 M:
So it's wright for 21 and citaro for 29? Unless 1 more citaro go to BNDEP. SBS6320M already under BNDEP. I saw 1 632x series citaro in AMDEP, can anyone comfirm?
You saw ???? The BSEP Citaros in AMDEP are still rego less as of today.
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Is there still only 1 new BSEP Citaro in BNDEP now? I think I know where that will go..
The date of implementation for the next round of BSEP services should be 12 Nov, Monday. Spotted at least 2 services already with some improvements & WAB fleet adds to their e-tt.Service 21
Change of schedule from 12 Nov on Weekdays & Sunday/PH schedules. Rest no change.
I didn't have time to fully look through all the timings, but I did spot these changes for Sv 21 for at least the first half of the day (approx timings from PSR Int):
Convert NWAB (non-WAB) WAB: 0538 0600 0804 0828 0903 1026 ....
Convert WAB NWAB: 0602 0753 0816 0851 1013 ....
New WAB trip 0637 (can't be adjust cause +/- also can't force this trip out unless it's a fleet add)
The swap of WAB & non-WAB timings should be around 3 buses involved considering the run-time? As for the new trip, that should be a Wright, cause lately there has been a constant number of Wright cameos (both BN & AM) on Sv 21~Service 29
Change of schedule from 12 Nov on Weekdays only. Rest no change.
Timings from Tampines Int were adjusted from min 9mins to now 7 mins from at least 0600-0700hrs..
New WAB trip added at either 0621 or 0628hrs (after taking into possible +/- of new timings). Rest of the day I didn't have time to observe..So if there's anything wrong or needs to be updated, let me know again.
services 14 & 35 also got new weekday ett starting from 12 nov but no changes in the timing have been madeservices 5 also got change in sunday ett from 11 nov but i believe no BSEP buses added... just that the freq got adjusted
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Originally posted by iveco:
SBST running out of rego numbers, so they must recycle them. Pretty soon, 3641 aka The Queen will return from the grave albeit in a different form. Route 50 plied between Eunos and bukit Merah via Geylang Serai, Golden Mile, Shenton Way and Tiong Bahru. Its fleet was supplied by HGDEP and dominated by Leyland Vikings, which were then replaced by DM-bodied Volvo B10M Mk IIs.Now it's time for SBST to recycle the 4000-series as well for the new buses.
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Originally posted by Oceane:
Got check Sv39 also? Haha...My bad, didn't check until that far just now~
Now that you mention, yeah Sv 39 also has a timetable change on 12 Nov. I think 12 Nov is like the major day of schedule changes though..alot of services have runtimes adjusted but I was on the lookout for services with added trips~ Plus there's the problem of BSEP fleet add (new Citaros/Wrights) vs WAB fleet add (existing SP KUBs/Citaros/Wrights)...Sv 35 no timings change..which means it has to do with its related service (Sv 9 if i'm not wrong since there's the 9/35 x-overs) having some change. No e-tt for Sv 9 yet, so can't check.
For Service 39..I did a runthrough of the timings from Tampines Int & I observed these (might miss out some in case my eyes went cock while comparing the 2 schedules)..
Old timings -> New timings (+/- runtimes of existing trips to accomodate new trips)0755 WAB -> 0753 WAB
0812 nWAB (non WAB) -> 0808 nWAB
0829 WAB -> 0823 WAB
0846 nWAB -> 0837 nWAB
0900 WAb -> 0905 WAB
0914 WAB -> 0915 WAB
1557 nWAB -> 1601 nWAB
1843 nWAB - >1846 nWABNew trips:
0851 WAB (assume 0900 initial trip timing + 5mins runtime in new schedule, since 0914/0915 trips still WAB)
1552 WAB
1834 WABTotal: Sv 39 added 3 new WAB trips in the new timetable~ Schedule changed only for Weekdays, same case as Sv 29. Rest unchanged.
For at least the first trip of 0851, freq improved somehow although I'll say it's still quite shitty compared to many other expressway svcs..sigh.
Old freq for 0851hrs stretch: 17-17-17-14-14; New freq with added trip: 15-15-14-14-14-10. 17 mins vs 15 mins...not much diff leh IMO.I think I need go BNDEP tmr & see if there's more than 1 BSEP Citaro there...otherwise one of the 2 svcs (29 vs 39) should be getting a SP KUB instead..which BNDEP has a ton of now.
The point is, Sv 39 get another fleet add so soon? Apparently 8328D that went in after Aug period didn't help much... -
Originally posted by lemon1974:
You saw ???? The BSEP Citaros in AMDEP are still rego less as of today.
Only 1 with rego. The others regoless.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Now it's time for SBST to recycle the 4000-series as well for the new buses.
Doubt so. Got '4'. Better don't use 4444 and 6666
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Just checked today again at BNDEP. 6320M is the only new BSEP Citaro in BNDEP as per reported previously. No rim covers, but with rego plates.
And like I had posted at the Wright thread, 3167J new-new & bling-bling shiny rims parked in BNDEP's lay-up area. I know this thread is about BSEP buses & svcs...but unless someone can help me point out which other DD-majority service in BNDEP has a timetable change soon..it might be for Sv 21 which might mean Sv 21 is not under BSEP.
Cause after the trip I mention they'll add WEF 12 Nov, the buses doing the next 3 slots, the first 2 are AMDEP duties IIRC (8292Y & 7314A usually), then the next is 7422X under BN 21. So I'm thinking they might use a BN bus for that new trip at 0636~Does it take longer to off-service from AMDEP or BNDEP to PSR btw? I'm thinking AMDEP is longer...but off-peak in the wee hours anyone knows?
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No new BSEP MAN registered for Nov batch. Only non-BSEP ones registered.
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SMB3023A on 964 today...
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Just checked today again at BNDEP. 6320M is the only new BSEP Citaro in BNDEP as per reported previously. No rim covers, but with rego plates.
And like I had posted at the Wright thread, 3167J new-new & bling-bling shiny rims parked in BNDEP's lay-up area. I know this thread is about BSEP buses & svcs...but unless someone can help me point out which other DD-majority service in BNDEP has a timetable change soon..it might be for Sv 21 which might mean Sv 21 is not under BSEP.
Cause after the trip I mention they'll add WEF 12 Nov, the buses doing the next 3 slots, the first 2 are AMDEP duties IIRC (8292Y & 7314A usually), then the next is 7422X under BN 21. So I'm thinking they might use a BN bus for that new trip at 0636~Does it take longer to off-service from AMDEP or BNDEP to PSR btw? I'm thinking AMDEP is longer...but off-peak in the wee hours anyone knows?
bndep 20min, amdep 26min. not very big difference. the BSEP slot on 21 starts and ends at pasir ris.
other than 21, 29 and 39 also getting fleet addition, and possibly 9 or 222. (since 35 and 229 have new schedule on 12 nov)
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Originally posted by service_238:
bndep 20min, amdep 26min. not very big difference. the BSEP slot on 21 starts and ends at pasir ris.
other than 21, 29 and 39 also getting fleet addition, and possibly 9 or 222. (since 35 and 229 have new schedule on 12 nov)
Wait dude, are you telling me that the fleet add for Sv 21 is confirmed under BSEP already? Cause the list of services we have here, it seems to me many of them are getting WAB fleet adds from the existing SP fleet instead since there's only 1 new BSEP Citaro now & 1 non-BSEP Wright in BN now.
IMO 6320M has a higher chance now of going to svcs with existing Citaros compared to the previous rounds...although I still think that Sv 39 needs to do something about its new fleet add. I don't see how a lethargic KUB could keep to that 14min freq if it gets stuck & lambat along PSR even before hitting the TPE. Lambat then back to 17 min freq for that stretch again, same as before they add.
And I thought it was interesting for Sv 39. They added 8328D for the 0700-0800hr stretch to improve the freq previously, then they missed out the next 0800-0900hr part (which now they tried to remedy it).
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Originally posted by SBS 6078 M:
Only 1 with rego. The others regoless.
all the BSEP citaros in amdep are regoless right now..
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Wait dude, are you telling me that the fleet add for Sv 21 is confirmed under BSEP already? Cause the list of services we have here, it seems to me many of them are getting WAB fleet adds from the existing SP fleet instead since there's only 1 new BSEP Citaro now & 1 non-BSEP Wright in BN now.
IMO 6320M has a higher chance now of going to svcs with existing Citaros compared to the previous rounds...although I still think that Sv 39 needs to do something about its new fleet add. I don't see how a lethargic KUB could keep to that 14min freq if it gets stuck & lambat along PSR even before hitting the TPE. Lambat then back to 17 min freq for that stretch again, same as before they add.
And I thought it was interesting for Sv 39. They added 8328D for the 0700-0800hr stretch to improve the freq previously, then they missed out the next 0800-0900hr part (which now they tried to remedy it).
sv21 might be getting the BSEP wright from AMDEP?
check through the schedule... sv57 and Sv238 (or sv26) should be under this round of BSEP for AMDEP/BRBP side... so that BSEP wright in AMDEP might be for Sv21...
on a side note, i am expecting Sv269 to get fleet add under BSEP as well. (so many feeder services have been getting BSEP fleet add), but this time round, Sv269 got fleet reduction (almost 22 trips reduction).... seem like the crossover from Sv128 are removed?
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LTA: With Effect from 18 Nov 2012, SBS Transit Service 116 will be launched connecting Hougang Central to Serangoon Central under BSEP.
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
all the BSEP citaros in amdep are regoless right now..
I think that citaro was orginally BRBP but send to AMDEP for some reasons for you said BRBP has 238 this round.