Questions about S'pore buses? Post them here! (Part VII)

• TIB1257C

  9 Oct 12, 10:09

  Originally posted by SBS1869E:

  Why a speed limit of 60km/h?

  I honestly think 60km/h for buses on the expressway is ridiculous, the limit should be at least 70km/h... Perhaps gov't can relook this regulation.

  Taking 27 or 858 can really be painful sometimes, seeing the bus cruise at such a leisurely pace. It makes the journey unbearably long.

  We have always been trying to make our transportation system more efficient, but nothing has ever been done about raising the speeds on the expressway!

  However, with more Voith 4-speed buses being introduced I am not quite sure if increasing the limit would have any effect - the Citaro engine seems to be at really high RPM at around 60km/h, and I am not sure how much faster it can go!

  PS: just my 2c, criticism welcome :)

  Well I often seeing 168 buses speed past the pathetic 27 bus I'm always in :\
  
  When 27 entering ECP from PIE, there is a 858 MAN blocking the way and isn't driving that fast. But then the driver didn't even want to overtake, but instead tailgate it, when the ENB [ Electronic Notice Board, or what you call it ] on ECP says:
  
  DRIVE CONSIDERATELY
  DON'T TAILGATE
  
  

• SBS8676Z

  9 Oct 12, 10:40

  Originally posted by SBS7491X:

  What is the original fleet of Svc 88, Svc 156 and Svc 43 before the Introduction of WAB buses?

  Service 43

  604J 640D 643X 648H 650A 652U 655L 659B 660X 788L 917G 2630U* 2644E(2693M) 2697C(2652G)

  Service 156 (only can remember all these)

  582M 613H(926E) 806T(887J) 1930K 1938P 1952Y 1975G 1981M* 1997T 2631S* 2632P 2641M 2662C 2718B(2660H) 2737X(2743C*) 2747S(2668L) 2782P 2798U

  * - These are still perm

• TIB1218R

  9 Oct 12, 10:45

  Originally posted by SBS1869E:

  Why a speed limit of 60km/h?

  I honestly think 60km/h for buses on the expressway is ridiculous, the limit should be at least 70km/h... Perhaps gov't can relook this regulation.

  Taking 27 or 858 can really be painful sometimes, seeing the bus cruise at such a leisurely pace. It makes the journey unbearably long.

  We have always been trying to make our transportation system more efficient, but nothing has ever been done about raising the speeds on the expressway!

  However, with more Voith 4-speed buses being introduced I am not quite sure if increasing the limit would have any effect - the Citaro engine seems to be at really high RPM at around 60km/h, and I am not sure how much faster it can go!

  PS: just my 2c, criticism welcome :)

  Totally agree with this...60km/h is just ridiculous..
  
  How to encourage people to take buses if our buses are very slow?

• TIB1218R

  9 Oct 12, 10:50

  Originally posted by SBS7491X:

  What is the original fleet of Svc 88, Svc 156 and Svc 43 before the Introduction of WAB buses?

   Service 88 (28 buses) [BRBP]
  
  SBS3777Z SBS3816U SBS3921Z
  3 Mercedes-Benz O405 (DM CAC)
  
  SBS903X SBS2792K SBS2793H SBS2794E
  4 Volvo B10M Mark IV (1 DM / 3 DM3500)
  
  SBS9034U SBS9091D SBS9159T SBS9178M SBS9188J SBS9194R
  6 Leyland Olympian 3Axles
  
  SBS9276M SBS9423E SBS9424C SBS9482J SBS9580J SBS9613Z SBS9617M SBS9618K SBS9619H SBS9620C SBS9630Z SBS9632T SBS9637E SBS9638C SBS9642P
  15 Volvo Olympian 3Axles (1 Batch 1 / 4 Batch 2 / 10 Batch 3)
  
  Totally love this fleet (except for MB O405), much better than current fleet..
  
  Remembered SBS9276M is the only VO3X B1 on 88, with red/orange colour ad? Gear change very fast...
  
  Those DM3500s have loud radiators at that time..
  
  SBS9642P and SBS3777Z used to have gear slip..

• TIB 501 D

  9 Oct 12, 17:48

  Say yes to 70km/h speed limit!

• chickenlittle2

  10 Oct 12, 02:14

  Anyone know if it is true that 502 got a crossover shift to service 30 doing downroute during AM peak?
  
  502 fleet reduction?

• service_238

  10 Oct 12, 16:34

  Originally posted by chickenlittle2:

  Anyone know if it is true that 502 got a crossover shift to service 30 doing downroute during AM peak?
  
  502 fleet reduction?

  3 buses do sv 30 downroute from taman jurong to boon lay before going to 502. no reduction on 502's side as some AM shifts start late without the xover.

• chifan

  10 Oct 12, 22:57

  Anyone can share photos of the Marine Parade Bus terminal when it was operational?

  As i don't live in the East, i had never been there before and never had the chance as it closed down.

   

• TIB1173K

  10 Oct 12, 23:15

  What is the meaning of "kickdown" that used in some bus rides or whatever?

• SBS1869E

  11 Oct 12, 00:27

  Originally posted by Bus Stopping:

  Personally, I feel its too ok to drive on expressway at 70km/h, but not on main roads. This however is not that easy to enforce.

  Also, not all expressway services will be able to make use of the speed (especially sbst ones) due to their scheduling constraints. One such example is the relaxed timetable on svc 97 during weekends, forcing the BCs to drive at around 40km/h on the AYE.

  This is clearly a timetable problem and SBST should fix this, as it is extremely inefficient and wastes commuters' time.

• SBS1869E

  11 Oct 12, 00:27

  Originally posted by TIB 501 D:

  Say yes to 70km/h speed limit!

  Yes, yes, I agree! 

• SBS1869E

  11 Oct 12, 00:29

  Originally posted by TIB1173K:

  What is the meaning of "kickdown" that used in some bus rides or whatever?

  Literally, kicking the accelerator pedal down, aka flooring the accelerator iirc. The engine revs up to high rpms and the gearbox holds a gear longer. A good example is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ2mKjVITwQ - note how the bus is screaming away

• chickenlittle2

  11 Oct 12, 01:24

  Originally posted by service_238:

  3 buses do sv 30 downroute from taman jurong to boon lay before going to 502. no reduction on 502's side as some AM shifts start late without the xover.

  ok.. what abt fleet downgrade? two WDD slots to two WSD? timetable change again on 15th oct..

• TIB 585L

  12 Oct 12, 21:30

  I would like to ask coz on Wed i took 6006X on 52 and i was like staring at the driver cabin,coinbox, the aircon and couldnt find a perm stix like i saw on a KUB. So where would they stick them on a Citaro?

• SBS6301T

  12 Oct 12, 21:34

  Originally posted by TIB 585L:

  I would like to ask coz on Wed i took 6006X on 52 and i was like staring at the driver cabin,coinbox, the aircon and couldnt find a perm stix like i saw on a KUB. So where would they stick them on a Citaro?

  SLBP uses marker not stix. for 6006 the marking should be behind the coinbox. its quite blur so its not so obvious

• TIB 585L

  12 Oct 12, 21:44

  Originally posted by SBS6301T:

  SLBP uses marker not stix. for 6006 the marking should be behind the coinbox. its quite blur so its not so obvious

  Ouh i cannot see. I took 6013Y on 53. I was standing beside the cabin, I cant find any stix so i have to check sgwiki to see if perm or not

• SBS6301T

  12 Oct 12, 21:46

  Originally posted by TIB 585L:

  Ouh i cannot see. I took 6013Y on 53. I was standing beside the cabin, I cant find any stix so i have to check sgwiki to see if perm or not

  Really? AMDEP uses perm stix u should be able to see it it is pasted on the panel above the driver's cabin

• TIB 585L

  12 Oct 12, 21:56

  Originally posted by SBS6301T:

  Really? AMDEP uses perm stix u should be able to see it it is pasted on the panel above the driver's cabin

  I swear i cnt spot it. if i spot it, i wont be asking ;p

• SBS 6078 M

  12 Oct 12, 22:00

  Originally posted by TIB 585L:

  Ouh i cannot see. I took 6013Y on 53. I was standing beside the cabin, I cant find any stix so i have to check sgwiki to see if perm or not

  There's only 6013A, no 6013Y. Do you mean 6014Y?

• TIB 585L

  12 Oct 12, 22:02

  oh yeah 6014Y. my mind a bit fuzzy coz i dun take citaro often sorry

• carbikebus

  12 Oct 12, 22:07

  Well if u ask me I say 65kmh is just enough.If the bus is 100% pack at least the bus still travel around 60,70kmh on our roads for heavy vehicles is subjective and not all drivers is trained or skill.Also there will always be loophole.Last time our lta raised van and pick up speed to 70 and what happen?They love to travel on centre lane although its not jam and sometimes would travel on fast lane with absurb speed of 90kmh!

• vicamour

  13 Oct 12, 01:37

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  Well if u ask me I say 65kmh is just enough.If the bus is 100% pack at least the bus still travel around 60,70kmh on our roads for heavy vehicles is subjective and not all drivers is trained or skill.Also there will always be loophole.Last time our lta raised van and pick up speed to 70 and what happen?They love to travel on centre lane although its not jam and sometimes would travel on fast lane with absurb speed of 90kmh!

  
  Yep, what is the point of such high speeds for buses and commercial vehicles?

  High probability of heavy casualties accidents instead.

• carbikebus

  13 Oct 12, 07:50

  Yes Vicamour and that's was like 6 years ago but now vehicle population getting more n more its unpractical to speed.In the end what's d point.

• carbikebus

  13 Oct 12, 07:51

  At the end if the day no matter how turbo charged the van,Lorry and buses have their handling and braking system is different from cars and motorbikes...

• TIB1218R

  13 Oct 12, 10:26

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  Well if u ask me I say 65kmh is just enough.If the bus is 100% pack at least the bus still travel around 60,70kmh on our roads for heavy vehicles is subjective and not all drivers is trained or skill.Also there will always be loophole.Last time our lta raised van and pick up speed to 70 and what happen?They love to travel on centre lane although its not jam and sometimes would travel on fast lane with absurb speed of 90kmh!

  But look at those buses in JB. They drive more than 70km/h. At BKE/AYE already you can see those Causeway Link buses speed.
  
  Btw, OC500LE's speed limiter looks faster than 60km/h. Or is it me? Always took it on 171 and 858...