Bus bunching reports
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Why not? If you have that much time to go and count at TPY Int the people who board 238 at both peak and off-peak hours, you should go and do that and report to us the figures. And your 113 figures too.
Why not you go and count and tell me and persuade me? U think i nvr take 238 before? 238 freq around 5-6 mins still not enough? 113 20 mins 1 bus and even it's full must take the next bus that is coming in 18 minutes you think hougang svc so pampered like svc 238? -
you see 113's routing
Why Kovan is macham the central stop? Is it meant for 'from Int' load?
Anyway, 88% loading can be achieved easily by lots of bus svs w/ better freq... Now got 45, 53 to S'goon somemore
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Why not? If you have that much time to go and count at TPY Int the people who board 238 at both peak and off-peak hours, you should go and do that and report to us the figures. And your 113 figures too.
In the first place, did you really go and count 88 exact people who boarded 113? Woah.
88 ppl from rear to front not 88? the maximum loading for a kub is 88. -
Ytd I saw 3x Sv 174 buses together at Orchard aft a long journey from Boon Lay..
So it's epic? -_-"
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Originally posted by sbst275:
you see 113's routing
Why Kovan is macham the central stop? Is it meant for 'from Int' load?
Anyway, 88% loading can be achieved easily by lots of bus svs w/ better freq... Now got 45, 53 to S'goon somemore
113's crowd not only comes from kovan, from hg mall also got ppl take. the evening crowd prefer to take 113 from kovan. -
Originally posted by sbst275:
Ytd I saw 3x Sv 174 buses together at Orchard aft a long journey from Boon Lay..
So it's epic? -_-"
174 got how many buses ar ? hmmmm no point arguing with you all since you all arent frequent commuters of 113. -
Originally posted by SBS5010P:
174 got how many buses ar ? hmmmm no point arguing with you all since you all arent frequent commuters of 113.
26 buses for a long route.So how you define how many buses?
170/ 170X got some 41 - 45 buses.. But 30 mins is spent on travelling from JB CIQ > Woodlands CIQ.
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Originally posted by SBS5010P:
88 ppl from rear to front not 88? the maximum loading for a kub is 88.Chill bro. Maximum loading for KUB is 88, but I believe that's the official estimate from the manufacturer with the assumption that everyone stands in two rows at the aisles, shoulder-to-shoulder, everyone perfectly average sized & with no bags or other baggage.
But seriously, have you ever seen a KUB with full 88 people? I've never seen one, at most packed only till 60+ (and that's like the MRT Shuttle during the train distruptions). So don't anyhow assume.
And besides, I'm not that free to go and count at TPY Int as you with your 113. My life is not just about buses and complaining. So chill dude, if the fleet add is supposed to come, it will come.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
26 buses for a long route.So how you define how many buses?
170/ 170X got some 41 - 45 buses.. But 30 mins is spent on travelling from JB CIQ > Woodlands CIQ.
113 got 7 buses for a 16km route at all times (Still need to serve 113A), freq at hougang central can be up to 25mins. 238 got 8-10 buses during peak hours for a 6.3km route. 174 got add cameos right? got dds right? -
Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Chill bro. Maximum loading for KUB is 88, but I believe that's the official estimate from the manufacturer with the assumption that everyone stands in two rows at the aisles, shoulder-to-shoulder, everyone perfectly average sized & with no bags or other baggage.
But seriously, have you ever seen a KUB with full 88 people? I've never seen one, at most packed only till 60+ (and that's like the MRT Shuttle during the train distruptions). So don't anyhow assume.
And besides, I'm not that free to go and count at TPY Int as you with your 113. My life is not just about buses and complaining. So chill dude, if the fleet add is supposed to come, it will come.
Anyway, im not trying to start the 113 war again, but seriously, if 113 gets a fleet add, i would be happy. I stated dd in case 113 dosent get a fleet add, but a dd in it's current fleet, which it's 20 min freq will compensate for one dd. -
Originally posted by SBS5010P:
113 got 7 buses for a 16km route at all times (Still need to serve 113A), freq at hougang central can be up to 25mins. 238 got 8-10 buses during peak hours for a 6.3km route. 174 got add cameos right? got dds right?
113A is alrdy made to serve the highest demand stretch alrdy.But wat's 238's load? There's endless of > SD load queue at Toa Payoh Int during the PM peak hrs at any moment.
Wat do you mean by add cameo? Do you even know wat's cameo meaning?
So SBS suka suka add 1 or 2 more bus, remove 1 or 2 more bus as they wish when they've planned for all the schedules?
I guess, you've no idea abt bus planning at all.
Get out of your Hougang St 11 go around the island go take a look.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
113A is alrdy made to serve the highest demand stretch alrdy.But wat's 238's load? There's endless of > SD load queue at Toa Payoh Int during the PM peak hrs at any moment.
Wat do you mean by add cameo? Do you even know wat's cameo meaning?
So SBS suka suka add 1 or 2 more bus, remove 1 or 2 more bus as they wish when they've planned for all the schedules?
I guess, you've no idea abt bus planning at all.
Get out of your Hougang St 11 go around the island go take a look.
like you said, 238 is the longest feeder in toa payoh, right? and yes, i have been to NTU and i have boarded 179. I have been around the island. Dont make assumptions that i only think svc 113 is crowded. -
Originally posted by SBS5010P:
like you said, 238 is the longest feeder in toa payoh, right? and yes, i have been to NTU and i have boarded 179. I have been around the island. Dont make assumptions that i only think svc 113 is crowded.
Longest and has to serve the most blocks. Worst, it's the only bus sv at it's main part of the route.If you've ever taken 179, I found it surprising that you could start commenting abt pampering Jurong.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Longest and has to serve the most blocks. Worst, it's the only bus sv at it's main part of the route.If you've ever taken 179, I found it surprising that you could start commenting abt pampering Jurong.
179 serves NTU right? like i said, my bro studys in NTU. Jurong is pampered because almost every service has dds including svc 243? Like you guys said, ppl wont move up to the upper deck, right? SBST has removed dds before from svc 291 and recently deployed dds back because ppl wont move up, since ppl wont move up why didnt SBST remove them? Thats why i think that svcs in jurong are pampered. -
Originally posted by SBS5010P:
179 serves NTU right? like i said, my bro studys in NTU. Jurong is pampered because almost every service has dds including svc 243? Like you guys said, ppl wont move up to the upper deck, right? SBST has removed dds from svc 291 because ppl wont move up, since ppl wont move up why didnt SBST remove them? Thats why i think that svcs in jurong are pampered.
I've alrdy said... Jurong has how many housing units?Somemore Jurong West N6 in particular happens to be the pioneering batches of HDB's new residential construction concept of clustered blocks (4 residential blocks grouped together w/ 1 MSCP). It's clustered demand for buses.
291's ADD got removed?
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Originally posted by SBS5010P:
then why come to this thread in the first place.
I will come anywhere as and when i wish.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
291's ADD got removed?
I forgot to include removed before -
Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Chill bro. Maximum loading for KUB is 88, but I believe that's the official estimate from the manufacturer with the assumption that everyone stands in two rows at the aisles, shoulder-to-shoulder, everyone perfectly average sized & with no bags or other baggage.
But seriously, have you ever seen a KUB with full 88 people? I've never seen one, at most packed only till 60+ (and that's like the MRT Shuttle during the train distruptions). So don't anyhow assume.
And besides, I'm not that free to go and count at TPY Int as you with your 113. My life is not just about buses and complaining. So chill dude, if the fleet add is supposed to come, it will come.
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I also saw last year October or November around 1030am like that svc 81 had 4 buses bunching together at Tam Ave 7 towards Tamp Int.3 DDs and 1 kub.Dunno what happened until bunch like that.
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Chill bro. Maximum loading for KUB is 88, but I believe that's the official estimate from the manufacturer with the assumption that everyone stands in two rows at the aisles, shoulder-to-shoulder, everyone perfectly average sized & with no bags or other baggage.
But seriously, have you ever seen a KUB with full 88 people? I've never seen one, at most packed only till 60+ (and that's like the MRT Shuttle during the train distruptions). So don't anyhow assume.
And besides, I'm not that free to go and count at TPY Int as you with your 113. My life is not just about buses and complaining. So chill dude, if the fleet add is supposed to come, it will come.
problem is not enough drivers. now 800 buses are coming in, idk where are the 1,600 drivers are going to come from -
waaaaa....my popcorn dio chaodah from the flames.
HOT!
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2 Express 518 bunched at MBS. front Citaro, behind Strider. both 3/4 seated.
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#Foreverbitchingabout113. You complain that 113 with 7 buses and it's super lousy frequency is still understandable. But do you have to make a big fuss out of it? I'm sure there's a reason why is there 7 buses for 113.
You look at sv 238/269. Forever and always long quque. SD Fleet with crossover from different services and yet it's not enough to cater to the needs of the people. I give example, sv 238. As the only bus that serves LOR 8, and there is alot of people who lives at lor 8, of course they have to rely on 238. They would not want to take 232 to Lor 7 and walk since 232 takes a longer time to get them there, having it to serve those living at TPY lor 2/Lor 1 and Lor 6 people first. The first 3 stops of 238 calls has 235, which somehow helps to relive the load. but then the quque at TPY int, which i think you should really check out. Can stretch to Breadtalk by going one round if ALL buses are outside. If you were to notice TPY interchange, most of the buses parking at the Sawtooth berths mostly belong to 238, with only 2-3 belonging to 232/235 respectively and 2 for 231(W/G). Don't include 157 cause they have their own space to park their buses. That's partly why 163/73 has to loop at TPY interchange. On the other hand, your sv 113 the only reason why alot of people board is due to the long waiting time. If you want buses coming in at 5 mins per bus, it will be underutilized. Might as well have sibei slow frequency and pick up alot of people instead of having alot of buses and picking up little people.
In fact , you should not compare 238 with 113. The scenarios are totally different IMO.
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Originally posted by SBS5010P:
Damn epic. I waited for 113 at hg st 21 at around 6.50pm. I waited for about 20 min finally bus came, 2 113As, 1 113.
1st 113A full to the door, second 113A inside got some pax, 113 also got some pax inside, damn epic. I overheard an aunty saying ppl are going to complain.113 only got 7 buses.
113A is served by its own buses also…So epic. =.=
3 113 kubs at hougang st 11 is really a joke.I dont stay near hougang, neither have i taken 113 before, but at times like this you need to be slightly more understanding as the situation is not as bad yet. All that's needed to disrupt the frequency is a piw boarding and alighting, or a bc that's very "Safety First", or just a unlucky chain of red lights.
Just 1 bus is full is nothing compared to some yishun feeder services before being converted to semi bendy fleet. Those days, you could have 2 to 3 sd driving pass you with full-to-the-door load, or 3 buses bunched together (sometimes even 4).
Now, theres have access to sbst iris to gauge arrival times, and instead of taking 113, there's also loads of other services that can bring u to ur destination with just a short walk.
You are already very privileged compared to ppl taking buses a decade ago, so please keep your rants to urself unless this happens frequently. I know that you dont like to wait very long for ur bus, but do remember, the bc also dosent want their breaks to be eaten up.
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Pls lock. As what ppl say when I creat the bunch up spotting, I swear this will only troll the page. LOCK THIS PLS. There are zero posts abt bunch up at all