Why so many K230UB's in Singapore today?
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Originally posted by sbst275:
mmm..Where you got the info from?
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Originally posted by SBS7123J:
seriously i wonder how will TS feels if he was to take those public buses in places like india, china or even malaysia
Haha thats why exactly..No u know what the transport companies here should do??They should take the public buses especially the ones used in india and put them in svc here for one day.Confirm all the idiotic retarded clones here will commit suicide for sure!!
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
IMPOSSIBLE! LTA must also be tired of these creepy KUB to ban new registrations! Otherwise SBS would order more K230 instead of Citaros!
SBST have no choice but to buy Citaros, because, they cant cope with the assemblying of the buses.... they need to assemble the Wrights, therefore, they have to buy citaros.. further i believe mercedes benz offer a good rates for these buses....
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Originally posted by Merczrox:
Haha thats why exactly..No u know what the transport companies here should do??They should take the public buses especially the ones used in india and put them in svc here for one day.Confirm all the idiotic retarded clones here will commit suicide for sure!!Tata Buses??? haha
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
Tata Buses??? haha
Is he referring to the buses bodied by Tata Hispano?
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
Tata Buses??? haha
Haha yeah.And definitely not to forget the Ashiok Leylands which r mainly used as the public buses there..
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Originally posted by sbst275:
mmm..Where you got the info from?
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http://www.facebook.com/busesingapore/posts/331908580182956
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
From sources: The Changi Airport Budget Terminal free shuttle K270UBs were part of an order by SBS Transit, which some were said to have been finished building up. However due to regulation set by LTA for fully low floor new buses, the K270UBs did not enter service with SBST. It was said that one unit went to Thailand as the Ethanol K270UB, while at least 2 units have entered service with Woodlands Transport as the free shuttle buses at Changi Airport.
http://www.facebook.com/busesingapore/posts/331908580182956
Would love for somebody to double confirm it. -
Originally posted by SMB228X:
From sources: The Changi Airport Budget Terminal free shuttle K270UBs were part of an order by SBS Transit, which some were said to have been finished building up. However due to regulation set by LTA for fully low floor new buses, the K270UBs did not enter service with SBST. It was said that one unit went to Thailand as the Ethanol K270UB, while at least 2 units have entered service with Woodlands Transport as the free shuttle buses at Changi Airport.
http://www.facebook.com/busesingapore/posts/331908580182956
So then these are the pointers to rebutt on this matter.1) Registration date: These buses as mentioned were manufactured only 1 year later, in fact if anyone has taken the ride and interior fitting, a lot of improvements has been made.
2) Why no one realised in Scania's press release many years back that the bodyworks was in liaise w/ SBST. Why would people bother to spend time for just odd small orders to re-design the interior? Is it of any economic value addedness?
The UK makers saw SBS or KMB ordering buses in typical hundreds, it gave them the chance to specify the body for the respective area's ops requirement.
3) Side mention: If anyone remembered when RWS tendered out the shuttle contracts, I remembered someone ever mentioned abt low floor bus requirement...
OK, I remembered saying abt the incline which now everyone's eye can see clearly, it's not meant for Asians actually. So why would LTA want to impose something that both LE & LF has it's flaws which are mutually exclusive?
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Originally posted by sbst275:
mmm..Where you got the info from?
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Words can be taken out of context. -
I would highly doubt that LTA would ban low entry buses, whoever spreaded those rumours have to back it up with evidence or at least quote a credible source, because it doesn't seem logical, on what premise should LTA ban them? They don't differ much in terms of capacity, they don't differ in terms of wheelchair accessibility, they don't differ in terms of emission, nor do they differ in road space. In fact the low floor buses have added disadvantages when compared to low entry buses, they seem less capable of handling Asian crush loads and have poor passenger flows. Really, the things I have heard these days from some people have become too absurd, with very poor arguments to back them up.
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
From sources: The Changi Airport Budget Terminal free shuttle K270UBs were part of an order by SBS Transit, which some were said to have been finished building up. However due to regulation set by LTA for fully low floor new buses, the K270UBs did not enter service with SBST. It was said that one unit went to Thailand as the Ethanol K270UB, while at least 2 units have entered service with Woodlands Transport as the free shuttle buses at Changi Airport.
http://www.facebook.com/busesingapore/posts/331908580182956
Scania only offers its DC9 Diesel engines at 270hp rating with Euro 4 emission standards. Sbst could never have ordered a batch of E4 K270UB after its E5 K230UB, as this would be going backwards in terms of emissions standard.
Fact: http://www.scania.com/Images/P10910EN%20Truck%20and%20bus%20engines%20Sep%202010_210291.pdf
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Well, all I'm going to say here is that it's a damn good thing the bunch of K230UB's went to Changi to do the Budget Terminal to Terminal 2 run - as recently as November 2011, they used high-floor buses, which are a pain if you have bags.
Otherwise, I prefer drop-axle floor - think VO/LO.
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
From sources: The Changi Airport Budget Terminal free shuttle K270UBs were part of an order by SBS Transit, which some were said to have been finished building up. However due to regulation set by LTA for fully low floor new buses, the K270UBs did not enter service with SBST. It was said that one unit went to Thailand as the Ethanol K270UB, while at least 2 units have entered service with Woodlands Transport as the free shuttle buses at Changi Airport.
http://www.facebook.com/busesingapore/posts/331908580182956
This is not logical AT ALL.
How can LTA ban LE buses juz becoz they got steps, or not full low floor and stuff?
THEY WAN KILL SINGAPORE PUBLIC BUS TRANSPORT IZZIT???!!!!
WAIT... now it hit me...
Izzit LTA wan limit to make buses smaller, so as to encourage ppl to take MRT instead?
laugh
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It's ridiculous, primarily because as long as you have the engine, you cannot have 100% low floor.
Also, all hail B10M MkIV.
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next time ban bus with loud air-con noise and rocking body as it is dangerous for old people can fall down on the bus.
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Originally posted by wsy1234:
next time ban bus with loud air-con noise and rocking body as it is dangerous for old people can fall down on the bus.
Define 'rocking body'.
And how the **** does loud air-con endanger elderly people?
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Originally posted by watson374:
Define 'rocking body'.
And how the **** does loud air-con endanger elderly people?
try taking a KUB out of CGA. When it turns at low speed, it tilts and rocks side to side. There u go.
Loud air-con noise can result in high vibration, which makes the rocking even worse. Also, loud air-con can make elderly lose hearing.
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I sense someone grasping at straws.
Why don't you just give up your seats to the elderly so they can sit down and not fall out?
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Originally posted by watson374:
I sense someone grasping at straws.
Why don't you just give up your seats to the elderly so they can sit down and not fall out?
Only if you can find a free seat first! SO CROWDED!
You never hear the KUBs ROARING outside your house??
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Loud air-con noise can result in high vibration, which makes the rocking even worse. Also, loud air-con can make elderly lose hearing.
so serious meh? Those working in the airport deaf liao..
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
try taking a KUB out of CGA. When it turns at low speed, it tilts and rocks side to side. There u go.
Loud air-con noise can result in high vibration, which makes the rocking even worse. Also, loud air-con can make elderly lose hearing.
You dumb or what? I strongly believe the tilting is the air suspension trying to self-level the bus while it is turning, althought some KUBs are indeed not that perfectly level.
As for the rocking, when you turn at low speeds at CGA, wouldn't most of the times the corner where the bus is turning having road humps? Then duh, the bus would rock because the bus is going across the hump diagonally, all 4 wheels touching the hump at different times?
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
You dumb or what? I strongly believe the tilting is the air suspension trying to self-level the bus while it is turning, althought some KUBs are indeed not that perfectly level.
As for the rocking, when you turn at low speeds at CGA, wouldn't most of the times the corner where the bus is turning having road humps? Then duh, the bus would rock because the bus is going across the hump diagonally, all 4 wheels touching the hump at different times?
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
Only if you can find a free seat first! SO CROWDED!
You never hear the KUBs ROARING outside your house??
U not happy about not getting a seat,then go and buy a damn fucking car of your own for god's sake..If not just shut the fuck up for at least once for the benefit of everyone here and live with the public transport system here.Its not like as if u will die without sitting on the bus.. =.= -
Originally posted by watson374:
I sense someone grasping at straws.
Why don't you just give up your seats to the elderly so they can sit down and not fall out?
Very well said.