Past bus routes and deployment (Part 2)
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Originally posted by SBS7123J:
For 105, SBS3914U and SBS3915S were perm in the mid-1990s' when it was still NAC buses. SBS161U was perm in 105 in the mid-1990s' also.
SBS301H and SBS467D were 105 perm in around 2001-2002 then.To add,
For svc 100, mid 90s > 102, 334, 3745, 3746, 3817
For svc 105, mid 90s > 261, 274, 526, 3895 -
What is the route of SBS 56 from 1985 to 1990 when it was
1) Toa Payoh - Bishan St 11 (Loop), and
2) Bishan - Toa Payoh
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
What is the route of SBS 56 from 1985 to 1990 when it was
1) Toa Payoh - Bishan St 11 (Loop), and
2) Bishan - Toa Payoh
before it was merged with SBS 150?1- I can't find any guides stating route svc 56 from Toa Payoh - Bishan St 11 (Loop). so I assume during 1st intro, route is not highlighted anywhere. (Maybe busway?)
2- From BG 86 > Bishan East St 11*, Bishan Rd, Braddell Rd, Toa Payoh Access Rd*, TP Lor 4, Lor 6 & TP Int (Loop), TP Lor 6, Lor 4, TP Access Rd, Braddell Rd, Bishan Rd & Bishan East St 11.
From BG88-89 > Bishan Int, Bishan St 13, St 11 then same route as above...
It merged with svc 150 & svc 58 in 1989.
* Bishan East St 11 > Not sure if this road is present St 11 or St 13, most likely Bishan Terminal along Bishan St 13. Toa Payoh Access Rd is present Lor 6 Toa Payoh, after/before the Braddell Rd flyover to/from Toa Payoh.
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Originally posted by starscream_07:
1- I can't find any guides stating route svc 56 from Toa Payoh - Bishan St 11 (Loop). so I assume during 1st intro, route is not highlighted anywhere. (Maybe busway?)
2- From BG 86 > Bishan East St 11*, Bishan Rd, Braddell Rd, Toa Payoh Access Rd*, TP Lor 4, Lor 6 & TP Int (Loop), TP Lor 6, Lor 4, TP Access Rd, Braddell Rd, Bishan Rd & Bishan East St 11.
From BG88-89 > Bishan Int, Bishan St 13, St 11 then same route as above...
It merged with svc 150 & svc 58 in 1989.
* Bishan East St 11 > Not sure if this road is present St 11 or St 13, most likely Bishan Terminal along Bishan St 13. Toa Payoh Access Rd is present Lor 6 Toa Payoh, after/before the Braddell Rd flyover to/from Toa Payoh.
Most likely it's because Bishan was still under development back then.
And according to Busway, SBS 56 was only merged with SBS 150 (the stretch from Toa Payoh to Beach Rd), and having it so close to Marina Centre they extended it to terminate there instead. SBS 58 was also withdrawn on the same day (2nd September 1990). Note that SBS 58 duplicates the current SBST 133.
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What is the route of Service 75 (Choa Chu Kang - Marina Centre) in 1990 ?
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Just wondering, what are the 'M' services (referring to M1 to M4) classified as?
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Originally posted by starscream_07:
While reading a few copies of 'Busway' of the early 80s edition @ NLB, I stumbled upon an article about the then new Hougang & Bedok North Depots. These new depots were built to replace a few older depots, one of them was Bedok Depot. A friend of mine told me that there was a bus depot at Upp Changi Rd 13.3km beside the terminal (Maybe combined with the terminal??) Was this probably the location of the Bedok Depot?
Another article I read on was about Somapah Bus Park. Where was it? When I was young, I remember seing a small depot along Upp Changi Rd East (Opp Simei Rd). Was that the Somapah bus park, or Somapah depot, or Somapah Interchange? I checked Street Directory '88, stating a bus terminal there...
Anybody, any explanations?
Refer to this article.
Somapah Interchange was opened in 1981. Located at the present-day Singapore Expo carpark (near the junction of Upp Changi Rd East and Upp Changi Rd), it used to house services terminating at Upp Changi Rd 15.5km (services 10, 11, 12, 14 and 155) and also functions as an interchange for Changi Airport services (services 392 and 393).
In 1983, with the introduction of the new SBS Changi Airport Bus Plan, services 392 and 393 were withdrawn and Somapah Interchange was downgraded to Somapah Terminal. By 1986, there were only four services terminating at Somapah Terminal, namely services 11, 12, 14 and 155.
With the closure of Somapah Terminal in 1989, service 11 was withdrawn and services 12, 14 and 155 were relocated to Pasir Ris, Changi Village and Marine Parade respectively.
- notes discussed in Somapah's context only*
- routes mentioned taken from Bus Guide 1982*
- express sectors are denoted in italics
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Refer to this article.
Somapah Interchange was opened in 1981. Located at the present-day Singapore Expo carpark (near the junction of Upp Changi Rd East and Upp Changi Rd), it used to house services terminating at Upp Changi Rd 15.5km (services 10, 11, 12, 14 and 155) and also functions as an interchange for Changi Airport services (services 392 and 393).
In 1983, with the introduction of the new SBS Changi Airport Bus Plan, services 392 and 393 were withdrawn and Somapah Interchange was downgraded to Somapah Terminal. By 1986, there were only four services terminating at Somapah Terminal, namely services 11, 12, 14 and 155.
With the closure of Somapah Terminal in 1989, service 11 was withdrawn and services 12, 14 and 155 were relocated to Pasir Ris, Changi Village and Marine Parade respectively.
- notes discussed in Somapah's context only*
- routes mentioned taken from Bus Guide 1982*
- express sectors are denoted in italics
Yes, I've read the article before. I can say the terminal was located near present Expo carpark near the junction of Upp Changi Rd East and Upp Changi Rd. Still remember seing a few fuel tanks in the terminal (after the entrance). In a certain article it is mentioned that the location was previously a bus depot of the pre-SBS era. -
Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Just wondering, what are the 'M' services (referring to M1 to M4) classified as?
Probably M(RT) services, as they were short trips services going to the nearest MRT station of the area. Still remember svc M3 using Albion Vikings... -
Was CCK terminal a roadside terminal? Where was it located?
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Originally posted by TIB1218R:
What is the route of Service 75 (Choa Chu Kang – Marina Centre) in 1990 ?
CCK Terminal, Teck Whye Ave, CCK Ave 1, CCK Way, CCK Rd, Bt Panjang Rd, Pending Rd, Petir Rd, Cashew Rd, Upp Bt Timah Rd, Jln Anak Bt, Clementi Rd, Ulu Pandan Rd, Holland Rd, Napier Rd, Grange Rd, Irwell Bank Rd, Kim Seng Rd, Outram Rd, Cantonment Rd, Keppel Rd, Anson Rd, Robinson Rd, Collyer Quay, Fullerton Rd, Empress Pl, St. Andrew Rd, Beach Rd, Bras Basah Rd, Raffles Boulevard & Marina Ctr Terminal.Marina Ctr Terminal, Raffles Boulevard, Raffles Ave, Connaught Dr, Fullerton Rd, Collyer Quay, Raffles Quay, Shenton Way, Keppel Rd, Cantonment Link, Cantonment Rd, Outram Rd, Tiong Bahru Rd, Zion Rd, Hoot Kiam Rd, Grange Rd, Napier Rd, Holland Rd, Ulu Pandan Rd, Clementi Rd, Upp Bt Timah Rd, Cashew Rd, Petir Rd, Pending Rd, Bt Panjang Rd, CCK Rd, Teck Whye Ave & CCK Terminal.
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Originally posted by starscream_07:
CCK Terminal, Teck Whye Ave, CCK Ave 1, CCK Way, CCK Rd, Bt Panjang Rd, Pending Rd, Petir Rd, Cashew Rd, Upp Bt Timah Rd, Jln Anak Bt, Clementi Rd, Ulu Pandan Rd, Holland Rd, Napier Rd, Grange Rd, Irwell Bank Rd, Kim Seng Rd, Outram Rd, Cantonment Rd, Keppel Rd, Anson Rd, Robinson Rd, Collyer Quay, Fullerton Rd, Empress Pl, St. Andrew Rd, Beach Rd, Bras Basah Rd, Raffles Boulevard & Marina Ctr Terminal.Marina Ctr Terminal, Raffles Boulevard, Raffles Ave, Connaught Dr, Fullerton Rd, Collyer Quay, Raffles Quay, Shenton Way, Keppel Rd, Cantonment Link, Cantonment Rd, Outram Rd, Tiong Bahru Rd, Zion Rd, Hoot Kiam Rd, Grange Rd, Napier Rd, Holland Rd, Ulu Pandan Rd, Clementi Rd, Upp Bt Timah Rd, Cashew Rd, Petir Rd, Pending Rd, Bt Panjang Rd, CCK Rd, Teck Whye Ave & CCK Terminal.
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What is the route of SBS 191 when it was still a Ghim Moh - Portsdown Road services?
To Starscream, will you or someone (or I, provided you gave me the details) create a page about the routes of the services in these guides
1) At least 2 copies of guides in the older 1980s' bus guides
2) At least 2 copies of guides in Transitlink series (1992-1999)in Sgwiki so that it is easier for us to refer to?
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Which is the bus that is exploded and participated in Exercise Northstar V?
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Originally posted by C151 039/040:
Which is the bus that is exploded and participated in Exercise Northstar V?
SBS9091D
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Originally posted by TIB770T:
SBS9091D
He is referring to the Exercise Northstar V in 2006 that happened at Toa Payoh Bus Interchange, not Exercise Heartbeat Alpha.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
What is the route of SBS 191 when it was still a Ghim Moh - Portsdown Road services?
To Starscream, will you or someone (or I, provided you gave me the details) create a page about the routes of the services in these guides
1) At least 2 copies of guides in the older 1980s' bus guides
2) At least 2 copies of guides in Transitlink series (1992-1999)in Sgwiki so that it is easier for us to refer to?
Your ideas are good but I don't think I can do that due to my hectic lifestyle. However, I will try to give inputs to your requests whenever I'm free. Just pass me ur email addr thnx. Btw I wonder where the senior members of this topic (Yusry, Suhirman etc) have gone too, they may provide us with more good info... In fact, I'm also thinking of someone who can compile everything from this topic.
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Originally posted by starscream_07:
Your ideas are good but I don't think I can do that due to my hectic lifestyle. However, I will try to give inputs to your requests whenever I'm free. Just pass me ur email addr thnx. Btw I wonder where the senior members of this topic (Yusry, Suhirman etc) have gone too, they may provide us with more good info... In fact, I'm also thinking of someone who can compile everything from this topic.
Thanks. By the way can you answer my first question please?
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
For the deployment of the ex-Hino HT238K, Other than TIB345M on AMDEP 852, Where was the last services Of 337L 338J 339G 340B 341Z 342X 343T 344R permed before de-registration?
Most of all these NAC Hinos were last doing 175 (LCK to Upp Bt Timah) just before they were all withdrawn.
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Originally posted by starscream_07:
Shud be Volvo B10M MK3Volvo MK3s from HGDEP to be exact
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
I remember 311K 318S were perm WLDEP 167 before it was booted out. Anymore?
313E was also with WLDEP 167 until it got laid up in mid 2000.
315A also with 167 after which it got transferred back to AMDEP and run around as SP on its final months before dereg in Aug 2001.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
What are the perms of services 124 & 131 when both were under HGDEP control?
600U was one of the buses which I can remember on 124. There were also NAC Volvo MK2 DM on 124 as well.
131 had NAC Merc 0405s and also Volvo MK4 under HGDEP.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Talking about 142, what buses were used bfore the Scania N113CRBs came in???
This kind of OF1413 if I remembered correctly.
It was then replaced with Volvo B57 before the Scania N113CRBs took over.
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Originally posted by SBS8676Z:
313E was also with WLDEP 167 until it got laid up in mid 2000.
315A also with 167 after which it got transferred back to AMDEP and run around as SP on its final months before dereg in Aug 2001.
310M 312H 314C 316Y 317U 318S 319P any idea? Was 310M 312H 314C part of WLDEP 167 too?
And yes, 333Y permed AMDEP 980 before. 331C 332A 334U 335S 336P any idea?
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Thanks. By the way can you answer my first question please?
GM Ter, GM Rd, C'Wealth Ave West, North Buona Vista Rd, Portsdown Rd (Loop), North Buona Vista Rd, C'Wealth Ave West, GM Rd & GM Rd.