Past bus routes and deployment (Part 2)
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Originally posted by SBS8675B:
171, 853, 854 and 980 were among 4 partial AMDEP/WLDEP services to be made full AMDEP in Jul 1999. That was when service 190 was handed over to Tibs. On the same day KJDEP handed all services 167, 187, 700 and 960 duties to WLDEP.Also note that services 167 and 851 were used to be full WLDEP controlled too.
It was in Jan 2001 when depot transfers took place again with both services 167 and 980 were made partial AMDEP/WLDEP, whereas 851 went back to full AMDEP.
171 was the only one that returned in 2008, am I right?
As for 167, which duty blocks are handed over to KJDEP in 1996?
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
171 was the only one that returned in 2008, am I right?
As for 167, which duty blocks are handed over to KJDEP in 1996?
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Duplicated post deleted. Come back again sometimes.
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Originally posted by TIB783G:
171 was the only one that returned in 2008, am I right?
As for 167, which duty blocks are handed over to KJDEP in 1996?
For service 167's depot transfer in Mar 1996, not sure of the full details. 167 used to be with minority KJDEP before that and seems that more duties from AMDEP were transferred over to KJDEP in 1996. 496K 498E 501D 504X went out whereas 798P 799L 808U 809S 810L 821E 822C became perm.
980 returned to partial WLDEP much earlier in Jan 2001. That was when 851 (all duties) and 167 (partial duties) from WLDEP went over to AMDEP in return. It was also the same day when 857 was re-introduced, most of the former WLDEP 851 buses became perm WLDEP 857. -
Originally posted by SBS5151R:
980 went back one last time as AMDEP/WLDEP control in Oct 2004.
980 initially went back full AMDEP controlled in Sept 2004, however due to some reasons 3 full duties handed back to WLDEP once again in Oct 2004.Ever since then some of 980's full duties had been "ping-ponged" several times between AMDEP and WLDEP and the total number of duties taken by these 2 depots kept varying up and down...
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Originally posted by SBS8675B:
I remember service 87 when newly introduced in 1999 was also a PAC service, not sure which NAC buses did 87 then. Similar to service 88, it was also converted to FAC within 1-2 months.
Think the 2002 bus guide also indicated as PAC for Sengkang feeders 371 and 372. Not sure whether the info is accurate or not.
In 2005-2006, NAC MK2s made a sudden appearance on service 82, and it was rather unusual to have NAC buses passing thru Sengkang and Punggol estates then.
Think should be Volvo B10M MK2 or Scania N113CRBs.
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Originally posted by SBS8675B:
980 returned to partial WLDEP much earlier in Jan 2001. That was when 851 (all duties) and 167 (partial duties) from WLDEP went over to AMDEP in return. It was also the same day when 857 was re-introduced, most of the former WLDEP 851 buses became perm WLDEP 857.For service 167's depot transfer in Mar 1996, not sure of the full details. 167 used to be with minority KJDEP before that and seems that more duties from AMDEP were transferred over to KJDEP in 1996. 496K 498E 501D 504X went out whereas 798P 799L 808U 809S 810L 821E 822C became perm.
I see...
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Originally posted by SBS8675B:
980 initially went back full AMDEP controlled in Sept 2004, however due to some reasons 3 full duties handed back to WLDEP once again in Oct 2004.Ever since then some of 980's full duties had been "ping-ponged" several times between AMDEP and WLDEP and the total number of duties taken by these 2 depots kept varying up and down...
I see...
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When is the year where SBS1530J-SBS1636K were manufactured and de-registered and what models are they?
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1) What are the histories (+amendments & route details) of the services in the 35x series (350-359)?
2) How many Mercedes-Benz OF1417 were de-registered in 1992? What buses replace the OF1417s and what are the 1992 de-registered OF1417s registered?
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Originally posted by SBS7440T:
2) How many Mercedes-Benz OF1417 were de-registered in 1992? What buses replace the OF1417s and what are the 1992 de-registered OF1417s registered?
Most likely they were replaced by the Mercedes Benz O405s.The OF1417s were mostly registered in the early 1980s.
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Originally posted by SBS7440T:
1) What are the histories (+amendments & route details) of the services in the 35x series (350-359)?
2) How many Mercedes-Benz OF1417 were de-registered in 1992? What buses replace the OF1417s and what are the 1992 de-registered OF1417s registered?
Before Townlink 357, 358 and 359 was formed, there were 350, 351, 352, 353, 355 and 356. Almost full fleet Volvo B57s before the Scania N113CRBs took over when they were deregistered in 1994/1995. 354 was formed after Townlink services were introduced. -
Originally posted by SBS7440T:
1) What are the histories (+amendments & route details) of the services in the 35x series (350-359)?
350: Loop at Pasir Ris Dr 4 / Dr 3 via Dr 3, Close, Dr 6, Dr 1, Dr 4, Dr 3, Close and Dr 3. Amended later to ply St 41 instead of Dr 3.351: Loop at Pasir Ris St 11 / St 12 via Dr 3, Central, Dr 1, St 11, St 12, Dr 1, Central and Dr 3. Amended later to skip St 12 and ply the full St 11.
352: Loop at Pasir Ris Dr 2 / St 21 / Loyang Ave via Dr 3, Dr 4, St 21, Dr 2, Dr 1, Loyang Ave, Dr 3, Dr 2, St 21, Dr 4 and Dr 3.
353: Loop at Pasir Ris Dr 10 via Dr 3, Central, Dr 1, Elias Rd, Dr 3, Dr 10, Dr 1, Central and Dr 3. Amended later to ply Dr 3 instead of Dr 1.
355: Loop at Pasir Ris Dr 10 / St 71 via Dr 3, Dr 12, Dr 1, Dr 10, St 71, Dr 1, Dr 12 and Dr 3.
356: Loop at Pasir Ris Dr 10 / St 71 via Dr 3, Central, Dr 1, Elias Rd, St 71, Dr 10, Dr 1, St 71, Elias Rd, Dr 1, Central and Dr 3.
From 1997, Townlink Pasir Ris services were introduced:
352 merged with 356 to form Townlink 357, lated merged with service 294 to form service 3.
350 merged with 353 to form Townlink 358. 354 was introduced.
351 merged with 355 to form Townlink 359, later amended to ply St 51.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Before Townlink 357, 358 and 359 was formed, there were 350, 351, 352, 353, 355 and 356. Almost full fleet Volvo B57s before the Scania N113CRBs took over when they were deregistered in 1994/1995. 354 was formed after Townlink services were introduced.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
When is the year where SBS1530J-SBS1636K were manufactured and de-registered and what models are they?
SBS1530J-SBS1616 were Mercedes Benz OF1417s with Hawke bodies, registered in 1980 to 1982 and deregistered in 1993/94.SBS1617R was Mercedes Benz OF1417 demo with Supreme Star body, registered in 1982 and believed to be deregistered in the early 90s.
SBS1623Y-SBS1636K were Mercedes Benz OF1417s with NZMB bodies, registered in 1983 and deregistered in 1994/95.
SBS1618M-SBS1622C were Leyland Atlanteans with Walter Alexander R type bodies, registered in 1983 and all deregistered by 2001.
Originally posted by tranquilice:
Service 354 was the only Pasir Ris feeder using full fleet of NAC Mercedes O405 before the Scanias came in to replace them.Pasir Ris feeder services is probably one of the few that uses all the numbers from 0 to 9, i.e, 350 to 359.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Before Townlink 357, 358 and 359 was formed, there were 350, 351, 352, 353, 355 and 356. Almost full fleet Volvo B57s before the Scania N113CRBs took over when they were deregistered in 1994/1995. 354 was formed after Townlink services were introduced.350 & 351 existed from 90/91. 352 came about in 1993, and 353 a year later. 355 & 356 were a response to PSR West filling up and were introduced in late 95. 355 used LAs, the rest had SDs. Volvo B57s served on 350-353 before being superseded by Merc O405 (350) and Scania 113s (the rest). 356 should have been full Scania fleet as the B57s were gone by then.
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Originally posted by iveco:
350 & 351 existed from 90/91. 352 came about in 1993, and 353 a year later. 355 & 356 were a response to PSR West filling up and were introduced in late 95. 355 used LAs, the rest had SDs. Volvo B57s served on 350-353 before being superseded by Merc O405 (350) and Scania N113s (the rest). 356 should have been full Scania fleet as the B57s were gone by then.
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Originally posted by tranquilice:
350: Loop at Pasir Ris Dr 4 / Dr 3 via Dr 3, Close, Dr 6, Dr 1, Dr 4, Dr 3, Close and Dr 3. Amended later to ply St 41 instead of Dr 3.351: Loop at Pasir Ris St 11 / St 12 via Dr 3, Central, Dr 1, St 11, St 12, Dr 1, Central and Dr 3. Amended later to skip St 12 and ply the full St 11.
352: Loop at Pasir Ris Dr 2 / St 21 / Loyang Ave via Dr 3, Dr 4, St 21, Dr 2, Dr 1, Loyang Ave, Dr 3, Dr 2, St 21, Dr 4 and Dr 3.
353: Loop at Pasir Ris Dr 10 via Dr 3, Central, Dr 1, Elias Rd, Dr 3, Dr 10, Dr 1, Central and Dr 3. Amended later to ply Dr 3 instead of Dr 1.
355: Loop at Pasir Ris Dr 10 / St 71 via Dr 3, Dr 12, Dr 1, Dr 10, St 71, Dr 1, Dr 12 and Dr 3.
356: Loop at Pasir Ris Dr 10 / St 71 via Dr 3, Central, Dr 1, Elias Rd, St 71, Dr 10, Dr 1, St 71, Elias Rd, Dr 1, Central and Dr 3.
From 1997, Townlink Pasir Ris services were introduced:
352 merged with 356 to form Townlink 357, lated merged with service 294 to form service 3.
350 merged with 353 to form Townlink 358. 354 was introduced.
351 merged with 355 to form Townlink 359, later amended to ply St 51.
I think there is a 353 introduced in 1986 from Sin Ming to Bishan St 31 before it was re-numbered to 57 in 1988 and withdrawn in 1992.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Are you sure 355 had LAs? Vicamour says 355 didn't use any DDs.
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Originally posted by iveco:
6889 ever served on 355 back in 12/96. A handful of LAs then went over to 359 after the intro of Townlink.
Does SBS6889P goes to 359 too?And I heard before that LO2X and VO2X served 359 before. Are they perm or cameo? What are some of the buses?
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Does SBS6889P goes to 359 too?And I heard before that LO2X and VO2X served 359 before. Are they perm or cameo? What are some of the buses?
VO2X were part of 359 perms back then. Regos are SBS7203L, SBS7222G and SBS7264K.As for LA, they are SBS1680G-SBS1682B, SBS4985H, SBS4988A, SBS4992L-SBS4993J, SBS5618L-SBS5619J & SBS5624T.
I remembered SBS1726J was swopped with SBS858T in 2006/07, that was the time when a MK2 does 359 and a MK3 does 15 rarely.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
It had to be amended anyway because it was made to call at AMDEP instead...might as well amend the route a little as well?I still remember the original 265 route though....the good old days of the NAC 0405s with the rear ad-holders.....all these are nothing but memories already sadly.
Townlink 265 is not the merger of Feeder 265 and Feeder 266. 265 is just extended to Ang Mo Kio Depot and becoming a Townlink service because it plied two ways between Ang Mo Kio Bus Interchange. Feeder 266 was withdrawn itself.Feeder 269 was amended to ply Ang Mo Kio Ave 4 instead of Ave 6 to cover up the withdrawn sectors of Feeder 266 with the deleted sectors replaced by service 138. Note that 269 did not ply Yio Chu Kang Rd back then. Only then in late 2002 was 269 extended further to ply Yio Chu Kang Rd and Ang Mo Kio Ave 5.
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Some question on deployments:
1) Does 37 use DDs when it is introduced in 1995?2) What buses does 134 uses after it was shortened to Bishan in 1992?
3) Does 51 have a full SD fleet before it merged with 54 in 1987?
4) Does any DDs served on 865 after it was handed to SBS in 1999?
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Some question on deployments:
1) Does 37 use DDs when it is introduced in 1995?2) What buses does 134 uses after it was shortened to Bishan in 1992?
3) Does 51 have a full SD fleet before it merged with 54 in 1987?
4) Does any DDs served on 865 after it was handed to SBS in 1999?
1). No. Full SD fleet.4) Yes, together with service 864.
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Originally posted by tranquilice:
1). No. Full SD fleet.4) Yes, together with service 864.
Then when did 37 started to have DDs?