Accident on BKE
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Hey guys there is a serious accident on BKE near Woodlands South Flyover. Traffic is shut off, diverting to SLE instead. Wonder how 187, 963 and 966 gonna run? Guys anyone got additional info?
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SL n passenger will be informed?
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Originally posted by brotherchen1982:
SL n passenger will be informed?
Good qsn. None. The expressway was already opened but the SL continued to drive into SLE -.- , as he saw a congestion infront, but the location where TP closed the highway has already been opened, therefore confusing him i supposed. Then he exitted into IJG. Then turn into 912's route. LOL. Best of all, SL didnt inform pax anything about it. Then made a big circle, go back BKE and expressway was opened and went past the site.
Cause of accident: Trailer truck carrying concrete blocks toppled over, spilling its load all over the expressway. A repeat accident of the PIE accident about 2-3years ago.
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Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:
Good qsn. None. The expressway was already opened but the SL continued to drive into SLE -.- , as he saw a congestion infront, but the location where TP closed the highway has already been opened, therefore confusing him i supposed. Then he exitted into IJG. Then turn into 912's route. LOL. Best of all, SL didnt inform pax anything about it. Then made a big circle, go back BKE and expressway was opened and went past the site.
Cause of accident: Trailer truck carrying concrete blocks toppled over, spilling its load all over the expressway. A repeat accident of the PIE accident about 2-3years ago.
Its a no choice. SLE was the ONLY way available.
A few buses I saw on 966 also blur blur go up BKE then SLE, back to Woodlands again.
Diverted route for 187/963/963R/966:
W'lands Ave 3 > W'lands Rd > Mandai Rd > BKE (Back to normal route) -
SJE & CW2 used Woodlands Rd > Mandai Rd as well.
Woodlands Rd heavily congested.
CW staff at Kranji began to feel kanchiong
. cos 4 - 5 buses are alrdy at Kranji.. later tio stucked -
Thought I saw 963R & 966 buses at Mandai Rd at 1730..
ahahahah... seriously, no one informed ops centre?
Even e MIG at Kranji knows abt e accident.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Thought I saw 963R & 966 buses at Mandai Rd at 1730..
ahahahah... no one informed SL abt accident?
Even e MIG at Kranji knows abt e accident.
I think have bah... cos TIB482A chiong very fast at Mandai Rd on most right lane like he knew it already... TIB844P almost turn into BKE heading Woodlands. Lucky he turned right when he saw the SMRT personal. -
Originally posted by TIB1234T:
I think have bah... cos TIB482A chiong very fast at Mandai Rd on most right lane like he knew it already... TIB844P almost turn into BKE heading Woodlands. Lucky he turned right when he saw the SMRT personal.
chiong wat chiong like know e road very wellThere's U-turn traps at that stretch of Mandai Rd
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Originally posted by sbst275:
chiong wat chiong like know e road very wellThere's U-turn traps at that stretch of Mandai Rd
yah... i saw the U-turn thing, like siao... lucky nv mount kerb. -
Originally posted by TIB1234T:
yah... i saw the U-turn thing, like siao... lucky nv mount kerb.
those U-turns, if you're on e right lane gotta watch outthose are designed in a sense you're to form up on e right lane aft u-turning.
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very dangerous
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Seriously the authorities should place a strict law on such trucks. The company that operated this vehicle sure kena tio gaogao liao. Last time was Woodlands Transport, now i cant remember this company, quite famous for construction too. Both trucks involved carried concrete blocks, altho the former's load was bigger and heavier. Both involved trailer trucks, both also happened at 5pm. And both happened near a bridge. -.-
The accident happened directly after SLE exit into BKE, prompting a possible accident caused by high speed turning resulting in the high CG of the truck to topple it over(the exit into BKE is quite a sharp turn). The load could have shifted when the truck was turning, making the truck unstable and toppled it over. A tyre on the trailer might have popped when the truck was turning, causing a sudden change of load support, again throwing the truck out of balance suddenly.
I always see these trucks using tubed tyres. Tubed tyres are a hazard. They can explode if the outer tyre is damaged, leading to lost of control of vehicle. They puncture easily and deflate rapidly. Thank god SMRT & SBST uses tubeless for most, if not all of their buses.
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Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:
Seriously the authorities should place a strict law on such trucks. The company that operated this vehicle sure kena tio gaogao liao. Last time was Woodlands Transport, now i cant remember this company, quite famous for construction too. Both trucks involved carried concrete blocks, altho the former's load was bigger and heavier. Both involved trailer trucks, both also happened at 5pm. And both happened near a bridge. -.-
The accident happened directly after SLE exit into BKE, prompting a possible accident caused by high speed turning resulting in the high CG of the truck to topple it over(the exit into BKE is quite a sharp turn). The load could have shifted when the truck was turning, making the truck unstable and toppled it over. A tyre on the trailer might have popped when the truck was turning, causing a sudden change of load support, again throwing the truck out of balance suddenly.
I always see these trucks using tubed tyres. Tubed tyres are a hazard. They can explode if the outer tyre is damaged, leading to lost of control of vehicle. They puncture easily and deflate rapidly. Thank god SMRT & SBST uses tubeless for most, if not all of their buses.
Seriously if you do notice, KJE flyover bend into BKE (PIE) is another such trap.The only way they can avoid is either to impose 'no go routes' or bar them from expressway w/ their speed limit and width
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Originally posted by TIB1234T:
very dangerous
it's lagi more dangerous if they do e typical u - turn layout.that type is designed for semi expressway
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Seriously if you do notice, KJE flyover bend into BKE (PIE) is another such trap.The only way they can avoid is either to impose 'no go routes' or bar them from expressway w/ their speed limit and width
Yeah sharp turns and so.
Well law can only go to some extent. I ever seen WC plate vehicles on expressway before. Its up to the mentality and the responsibility of the companies and drivers alike to prevent such accidents. Like motorcycles, safety awareness and defensive riding lessons can only help so much, but is useless when you ride recklessly on the roads.
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Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:
Yeah sharp turns and so.
Well law can only go to some extent. I ever seen WC plate vehicles on expressway before. Its up to the mentality and the responsibility of the companies and drivers alike to prevent such accidents. Like motorcycles, safety awareness and defensive riding lessons can only help so much, but is useless when you ride recklessly on the roads.
well, W rego plates needs TP permit to be on expressway. -
Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:
Seriously the authorities should place a strict law on such trucks. The company that operated this vehicle sure kena tio gaogao liao. Last time was Woodlands Transport, now i cant remember this company, quite famous for construction too. Both trucks involved carried concrete blocks, altho the former's load was bigger and heavier. Both involved trailer trucks, both also happened at 5pm. And both happened near a bridge. -.-
The accident happened directly after SLE exit into BKE, prompting a possible accident caused by high speed turning resulting in the high CG of the truck to topple it over(the exit into BKE is quite a sharp turn). The load could have shifted when the truck was turning, making the truck unstable and toppled it over. A tyre on the trailer might have popped when the truck was turning, causing a sudden change of load support, again throwing the truck out of balance suddenly.
I always see these trucks using tubed tyres. Tubed tyres are a hazard. They can explode if the outer tyre is damaged, leading to lost of control of vehicle. They puncture easily and deflate rapidly. Thank god SMRT & SBST uses tubeless for most, if not all of their buses.
But some things i realised when i saw the scene.
1) the trailer was striaight headed to the center divider. And the divider isn't much damaged.2) if the trailer happen to lost control at the SLE exit to BKE, it would have hit the side of the wall near the chevron markings.
3) working sites is just around the corner of the SLE exit, which could mean the trailer drove down by itself without handbrake or hanbrake failed when its at the site.
4) if the lorry is at high speed, it would have crossed over the center divider to the opposite direction of the expressway.
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Also, happened to see a damaged motorcycle being craned up to a lorry. It might have been the motorist can't avoid the sudden trap.
And alot of cars illegally reversing off the entrance of BKE from W'lands Ave 3.
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No wonder I saw TIB436J TIB726Y on their respective perm service using the way 961 uses just now to do their revenue service.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
well, W rego plates needs TP permit to be on expressway.the ones i saw has none. Not even a tow truck since its a concrete mixer.