Originally posted by TIB 781 L:
You want to wait half an hour like a sitting duck only to realize 858 is fully packed or you want to walk and beat 3 858 buses that are fully packed and even though you get home slower you don't have to squeeze with the crowd you decide.
Dude, I just wait for just 15mins or less for 1 bus...True enough, you never see it first. TIB505T arrived first @ Khatib Station..but bus aren't full..5mins later, SMB132M also arrived, not so full also..
Originally posted by TIB 781 L:
This is my final post to this though, and I will not reply anymore because we are deviating away from the topic.KTPH to Sembawang takes about 4km+ if you walk straight from KTPH following the MRTs line, or you walk via the 969 way might be faster. KTPH to Sembawang alone doesnt take more than a few hundred meters, more than that, What I was referring to is those ppl whose homes are hundred meters away from the hub/shopping mall cannot walk but take buses. These are the ppl I call lazy. and yes I have no right to call ppl lazy but they complain about bus frequency and don't think of solutions don't call lazy what do I have to call?
and also T1/T2 and T3, You judge yourself whether can walk or not, I won't go further.
your final post on this? why you still go replySMB66X ? It is weird that you say one thing, do another things. Now you are telling us that you are not referring to KTPH ppl? and refer to those ppl at shopping mall/hub? why dun you go and read through your earlier post? i cut and paste for your info. You are very contradicting...
10 (WAB) out of 19 fleets isn't enough, But no choice how?
If frequency not good, ask ppl to walk, especially the KTPH ppl. relying on buses might as well walk better, KTPH to Gambas ave, or sembawang.
Originally posted by lemon1974:10 (WAB) out of 19 fleets isn't enough, But no choice how?
If frequency not good, ask ppl to walk, especially the KTPH ppl. relying on buses might as well walk better, KTPH to Gambas ave, or sembawang.
This kind of thing can flexible one what, I walk from my home to JP I can beat atleast 1 243G or 2 rather than a waiting there like a sitting duck for 1 243G, Furthermore, walking from KTPH straight to Sembawang/Chong pang or Gambas ave, If I walk I can walk past atleast 4-5 858 with irregular frequencies though.
Other than joyrides which I took on buses, I hardly take feeders these days, and walk home instead from Boon Lay int rather than to 'compete' with lazy ppl from my side.
Originally posted by lemon1974:your final post on this? why you still go replySMB66X ? It is weird that you say one thing, do another things. Now you are telling us that you are not referring to KTPH ppl? and refer to those ppl at shopping mall/hub? why dun you go and read through your earlier post? i cut and paste for your info. You are very contradicting...
10 (WAB) out of 19 fleets isn't enough, But no choice how?
If frequency not good, ask ppl to walk, especially the KTPH ppl. relying on buses might as well walk better, KTPH to Gambas ave, or sembawang.
Just let him be...raining day also walk home in the rain..
Originally posted by TIB 781 L:This kind of thing can flexible one what, I walk from my home to JP I can beat atleast 1 243G or 2 rather than a waiting there like a sitting duck for 1 243G, Furthermore, walking from KTPH straight to Sembawang/Chong pang or Gambas ave, If I walk I can walk past atleast 4-5 858 with irregular frequencies though.
Other than joyrides which I took on buses, I hardly take feeders these days, and walk home instead from Boon Lay int rather than to 'compete' with lazy ppl from my side.
u walk is ur blardy own business. people wan to enjoy the bus links also cannot is it? u r very selfish. asking people to walk when they wan to take the bus in a hot, sunny day or in a cold, rainy day. u go walk in all weathers WITHOUT AN UMBRELLA is also not my problem, or rather, all our business. stupid.
Anyway, SMB20C is on 961.
Originally posted by SGCar:
I remember there's someone here mentioned before on the narrow road that make bendies quite difficult to turn in.Cheers.
Actually if u notice, Airport isnt really the reason why they cant deploy bendies. I guess the problem actually lies with Jln Kayu and not airport.
No, the rd in airport is very sharp. all almost 90 degree turn. for those who r driving will understand wat I mean. unless the driver got v gd driving skill otherwise its hard to counter the turn using bendy
Originally posted by sBs_boy:Actually if u notice, Airport isnt really the reason why they cant deploy bendies. I guess the problem actually lies with Jln Kayu and not airport.
Jln Kayu road should be ok, problem should be airport.
Cheers.
Today, most 858 fleet are O405s...hardly hear any OCs(Only heard 3-4 OCs) sound from 9:15am ~ 11:45am..
For the bendy issue, remember a while back that there was a persistent rumour about a bendy bus deployment on route 858 going around; that rumour states that then-Trans Island decided not to deploy them on route 858 due to difficulty navigating the corners in the basements of Changi Airport.
Whether it was a full-service cameo or just a test run, no one's sure about that.
858 is OFFICIALLY WAB!!!! Whoooo~~~~
Any updates on the OCs that are deployed on 858 today?
Cheers.
Originally posted by SGCar:Any updates on the OCs that are deployed on 858 today?
Cheers.
From my observations, I didn't see any Mercs O405 on 858, only OCs.
I am surprised nobody spotted a single OC on 858 on Monday? Or was it not recorded as cameo because all of them are treated as perm already?
Originally posted by Junyang700:I am surprised nobody spotted a single OC on 858 on Monday? Or was it not recorded as cameo because all of them are treated as perm already?
Perm already :D
Originally posted by Junyang700:I am surprised nobody spotted a single OC on 858 on Monday? Or was it not recorded as cameo because all of them are treated as perm already?
http://www.sgbuses.com/wiki/index.php5?title=Services_700_-_882#Service_858_.2819_Buses.29
Originally posted by Simply.90:
I see. Thanks! =)
I see at least 7 OCs today.
The problem with SMRT Buses currently is wrong timing at the wrong time.Always i notice 7-9 S67 buses passing with an average of 5 mins during 1700-1750hrs and sway2 the buses after 1800hrs always stucked with full loads and to worsen the problem only rigids when the crowds came in.Its true just look at 960,The deployment of the rigids on Weekdays is absurb,4 rigids at town area during PM peak towards WDL while the front bendies are not even fully seated!Certain services like 171,980 need huge improvement.171 need at least 2 perm bendies during peak and ditto for 980.
Originally posted by carbikebus:I see at least 7 OCs today.
The problem with SMRT Buses currently is wrong timing at the wrong time.Always i notice 7-9 S67 buses passing with an average of 5 mins during 1700-1750hrs and sway2 the buses after 1800hrs always stucked with full loads and to worsen the problem only rigids when the crowds came in.Its true just look at 960,The deployment of the rigids on Weekdays is absurb,4 rigids at town area during PM peak towards WDL while the front bendies are not even fully seated!Certain services like 171,980 need huge improvement.171 need at least 2 perm bendies during peak and ditto for 980.
In fact, 99% of SMRT fleet needs bendy bus..
Smrt still has lots of air space on top of commuters head. I remember seeing them putting on average their loading is only 40+%.
You believe mah? Haha... I seriously wonder how they get 40%, when there are commuters standing on its doorsteps during off peak hour.
Originally posted by SMB66X:In fact, 99% of SMRT fleet needs bendy bus..
Yeap if we follow by population all bus services in SG need high capacity buses but the truth is whether the bus co want it or not.As for me the real problem lies during peak and Weekends only.Ever saw Yis feeders nearly empty during off peak.There must be a balance.Its true bendies and DDs carry extra pax but when come to maintenance and parts they cost almost double as rigid does..
A little observations on SMB133K. Took from Changi Airport Terminal 3....
> Bus was 1/6 full before it pick up passengers to become 2/6.
> Bus was 4/6 full when it left Terminal 1 for Terminal 2...
> Bus left CGA Terminal 2 with 6/6 full...
> Bus reached Yishun and still managed to bring passengers to their destinations!
What did SMRT do?
> 2 OCs gap were quite close...and 1 unknown OCs also did down route.
> After that 3 OCs @ CGA, the next bus was @ Yishun, TIB504X which were quite full.
> Behind 504X, SMB119C or SMB120Y was following up but never bunch up.
Other info...
> SMB133K WAB logo doesn't use the card but stickers which stick to the corner of the bus. Please don't peal it ;)
> Height of the WAB is about the same as SMB1H WAB logo.
> Doors were stick to show that the bus is a WAB svc.
> No stickers to the person in wheelchair to press the WAB bell..
Originally posted by Junyang700:I am surprised nobody spotted a single OC on 858 on Monday? Or was it not recorded as cameo because all of them are treated as perm already?
I saw TIB830D and TIB633G on tuesday though.
Another suggestion is to give 3-4 duties to AMDEP,Useful for trips start at CGA(Ala 36 style) and also better for trips terminating at Yishun(858A).
75 & 960 another good candidate for AMDEP to control minority of the duties.